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Ahem.

Here is a link to a first draft of a proposed map. It contains only a few nations, the ones I'm reasonably confident of placing without having talked to their owners in this thread. If anyone who owns one of the nations portrayed on the map wants to move, that is TOTALLY FINE. Shinn, in particular, may want to move, and take his micronations with him.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/73239306/SDNW5_Map_Draft.png

Other people will want to play around with this to figure out where they can go, or negotiate about where to go, and I am happy with that and want lots of that to happen. But this way, me and a few others have turf staked out, and everyone else at least has a coordinate system so they can say "I want sector G-20."

One thing we need to do is pencil in blobs of shoals (like the dark green squares labeled "The Badlands").

Oh, by the way. One nation doesn't have a printed name on this map. I think you can guess who they are, though... ;)
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I will definitely need to move the Holy Empire someplace else, but before I do that, I want to see where some of the other nations (namely, the Grays and possibly the Volscians) want to go first. I may also need to rearrange the territories of the Holy Empire and its neighboring micronations as well.
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OK. I had the Empire there mostly out of inertia. We'll see how things evolve.
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Here's my own suggestion :


Stellar Nation :

- The Hub : [P-16]
- Ascension : [S-19]
- Terminus : [U-22]

Terminus' shoals : [T-21/22/23][U-21/22/23][V-21/22/23]


Placement suggestion :
- The Hub should be placed roughly at the center of the map, or close to it. It should at least give the impression that it can be at the center of most trade routes in the region.
- The three sectors should be at warp-gate distance from each other.
- I have no problem with Terminus or Ascension being enclaved into someone else's territory, but you should tell me, 'cause it will have consequences on the historical background between our two Nations.
- The Terminus Shoals are a pirate nest, so any Nation with its territories directly next to them will expose themselves to a lot of attacks.
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Must we place your dot sectors three sector-widths apart? It significantly increases the volume of mapspace that is 'stuck' as allocated to your nation, which can get awkward. We already have two very expansive, physically large state in the League and the Holy Empire (plus its micronations).
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Eh Simion, did we deiced it was ok for me having two sectors? Since we worked out a way to expand my distance by using FTL Vacuum tube radios an such :P
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Yeah, sure.
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Simon_Jester wrote:Must we place your dot sectors three sector-widths apart? It significantly increases the volume of mapspace that is 'stuck' as allocated to your nation, which can get awkward. We already have two very expansive, physically large state in the League and the Holy Empire (plus its micronations).
Not necessarily. It was more to get Terminus as far from the Hub as possible, with Ascension in between acting as a relay.

What can be done is to have terminus and Ascension be at Warp-Gate range from one another, and having The Hub at Warp-gate range from one of my allies/people-I-share-a-trade-route-with - and possibly, if isn't too power-gamey, the whole thing making a warp-gate road between Terminus-Ascension-[Allied Territories]-The Hub.

My only "requirement" is to have The Hub roughly near the center of the map.


But ultimately, in the end, do as you want. :lol:
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Well, what I want is to do what everyone wants, subject to the constraint of not running out of room on the map.
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I just need to be next to the Holy Empire, so I don't know where exactly to put mine either. Space Sweden can be wherever you want it though, if Space Japan wants to be near the Grays/Volscians more.
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OK.

Um, look.

What I really want is to see people trying to place their own countries on the map, in whatever locations they feel appropriate. The role I'd prefer in all this is to negotiate conflicts, try to preserve some kind of overall structure, and do rounds of reconciliation to square each person's map drafts with one another.

If everyone declares "I don't want to be placed until everyone else has been placed," I will not be a happy camper.
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LOL And I can soooo see that happening..

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I'll buck the trend and ask to be put a bit to the left of the "Badlands" so I am still a bit out of the way.
I am hoping the Chams and Omni may be near by. But we shall see.
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Okay then, let me look at the map more closely and I'll put myself down somewhere.
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Panzersharkcat wrote:1 2
3 4 5

5 = Neith
4 = Bastet
3 = Horus
2 = Sobek
1 = Isis

Sector names and relative positions. Neith should be around I-16.
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Okay then, my map should look like this (at least at the moment):

Arcadia: H7
Reach: H6
Kursk: I7
Miyazaki: I6
London: I5
Berlin: H8
Nome: G6

Does that work? (of course, this is assuming I don't end up next to the Holy Empire...but if this works better then by all means use it).
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The neighbours i want:
Hellenic confederacy
League of thought
UISC
Capella

I'm thinking maybe T-25 or T-27 as the general area of my empire
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Did we decide which direction was which on the map?
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Scottish Ninja wrote:Did we decide which direction was which on the map?
IIRC, "up" is coreward, and "down" rimward. As far as left and right go, I don't know.
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Up is coreward, right is spinward. For the sake of choosing a spot, the rectangle with the corners AA25 and BB27, and I'd like to draw some shoals into CC25 through DD27
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I'd like to be put at Y3 for the moment. May move it if it doesn't fit.
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Darkevilme, how's this for the Hierarchy and my guys?

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Hmmm, assuming the Holy Empire does move, you can probably have it start at about O-24-is and sprawl out to spinward like you wanted, sticks you close to the Belkand and Chamarrans who all look like they could take bites out of you.

As for the Capellans, somewhere around T-20 and it's surrounding space probably fits them.
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If the Helinc and Charms moved a little to the right, I could squeeze between them and the Belkans.
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Given the Belkans? That would not be a very safe place for you to be.
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You could as it is - only two sectors, right?
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