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PeZook wrote:

DarthShady wrote: Also: Damn Pogorians always late for meetings.

Sorry, but I prefer to be able to pay my heating bill. It's winter now.

Pogorian winter!

Well, this will take forever...

I'm waiting for Karmic so what the hey.
Trivia. Before the whole 'lets ally with the lord of bad things' issue the Dominion assessment of the eastern alliance powers was thus in descending order of how friendly it seemed.

Crimea: Could probably of gotten along with them quite well, not that much could of come of it at this distance.
Despotate: Expansionistic but in the nice way where the rampant conquering is again happening at a safe distance. A friendly relationship could occur.
Tsardom: Expansionistic and filled with a somewhat aggressive ideology yet with a great love of knowledge, overral wary of them but some good things could of come from partial cooperation.
The kingdom of shadows: Ruled by the Lord of Bad Things Himself and worryingly close to us, conflict was deemed inevitable since we learned of its existence.

Darkevilme wrote:The kingdom of shadows: Ruled by the Lord of Bad Things Himself and worryingly close to us, conflict was deemed inevitable since we learned of its existence.

He can be kept on a tight leash, you know.

Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:

Darkevilme wrote:The kingdom of shadows: Ruled by the Lord of Bad Things Himself and worryingly close to us, conflict was deemed inevitable since we learned of its existence.

He can be kept on a tight leash, you know.

Are you implying that I'm a dog?

Hmmm..."The Lord of Bad Things" has a nice ring to it though, it would make an awesome CT.

I love being the bad guy and watching you pesky do-godders squirm.



So guys, any ideas on what we will call our grand alliance? Something intimidating perhaps.

DarthShady wrote:Are you implying that I'm a dog?

No... just that they seem to have an irrational fear of you, though I don't quite blame them....

The fact remains, just in case no one has noticed, it's going to be hard for any of us to get into a war at this stage what with no real military advantage.

Hmmm..."The Lord of Bad Things" has a nice ring to it though, it would make an awesome CT.

I love being the bad guy and watching you pesky do-godders squirm.



So guys, any ideas on what we will call our grand alliance? Something intimidating perhaps.

I'm not sure.. the United Eastern Powers?

Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:

DarthShady wrote:Are you implying that I'm a dog?

No... just that they seem to have an irrational fear of you, though I don't quite blame them....

It's not irrational. I'm a Demon Lord after all.

I'm not sure.. the Eastern Powers?

No...that's too ordinary. We need something awesome, that signifies power.(Intimidation is a valid tactic. )

DarthShady wrote: No...that's too ordinary. We need something awesome, that signifies power.(Intimidation is a valid tactic. )

Only against weaker foes. Against any possible opponent of the alliance, it will just reinforce their conviction that yes, they need to kill us right the fuck now.

DarthShady wrote:
I love being the bad guy and watching you pesky do-godders squirm.

And here's just where you're wrong. We're pragmatic, not good. There is no clear divide between good and evil here, only between you and us.

We oppose you because you have a clearly stated desire to kill us all, not because you're evil.

Now Now, getting into a war won't do us any good. There's no solid military advantage, and it will end in a War of Attrition.

And no, I would like to entertain myself at least before the killing starts.

I am very pragmatic. Which is why I have Shady; he will keep you fellas off our backs while we consolidate in the East.

(Yes, I'm serious. Please no war at least until turn 20. I would like to at least declare my kingdom as the reborn Eastern Roman Empire)

PeZook wrote:

DarthShady wrote: No...that's too ordinary. We need something awesome, that signifies power.(Intimidation is a valid tactic. )

Only against weaker foes. Against any possible opponent of the alliance, it will just reinforce their conviction that yes, they need to kill us right the fuck now.

You have a point there. Although a good name is necessary.

Also: Us

Master_Baerne wrote:

DarthShady wrote:
I love being the bad guy and watching you pesky do-godders squirm.

And here's just where you're wrong. We're pragmatic, not good. There is no clear divide between good and evil here, only between you and us.

We oppose you because you have a clearly stated desire to kill us all, not because you're evil.

But...I want to kill you because I'm evil.

Seriously: I won't start a war with anybody, yet. I have allies now, and their opinions matter.

20 years? and there was me worried i was going to come under attack before the awakening completes.
Though if that's the case i'll reassign 5th army to the expansion so i dont fall too far behind.

Well, I think this calls for a celebration. Western Powers, drinks at Karmic Knight's place?

We really ought to get this conference started.

Aw...Man. 20 years!?!?

Do you really think that I can suppress my blood lust for that long?

I guess there's always Barbarians and unaligned nations to slaughter.

Since this shindig is being held at my place, why not the Chesonesos Pact?

The Federation of United Countries, or FUC for short?

Countries United against National Trespassers?

Sovereigns Holding It Together?

Or, more seriously, the Steel Pact?

Steel Pact sounds pretty damn good to me

Zor

DarthShady wrote:Aw...Man. 20 years!?!?

Do you really think that I can suppress my blood lust for that long?

I guess there's always Barbarians and unaligned nations to slaughter.

And on that note, allow me to mention that the Grand Alliance has an all-comers-accepted policy.

Master_Baerne wrote: And on that note, allow me to mention that the Grand Alliance has an all-comers-accepted policy.

It does? Hmm...

*plots*

DarthShady wrote:Aw...Man. 20 years!?!?

Do you really think that I can suppress my blood lust for that long?

I guess there's always Barbarians and unaligned nations to slaughter.

You have lots of provinces to go consume in the Balkans. What are you grumbling about? I'm trying to forge a mega empire into the East over here, mind you.

Darkevilme wrote:Trivia. Before the whole 'lets ally with the lord of bad things' issue the Dominion assessment of the eastern alliance powers was thus in descending order of how friendly it seemed.

I disagree, the gravest threat is not the Lord of all Bad Things, it is in the Red Czordom and their insidious plots to rule the high seas by using Nimitz Carriers. (slight sarcasm, though the whole ‘guns! industrial revolution! 1700s technology!’ thing still kind of irks me)

DarthShady wrote: So guys, any ideas on what we will call our grand alliance? Something intimidating perhaps.

Might I recommend the Black Sea Alliance?

Master_Baerne wrote:And here's just where you're wrong. We're pragmatic, not good. There is no clear divide between good and evil here, only between you and us.

I like that we have to be good because we are fighting the guy whose major policy decision is to decide to kill everyone.

Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:Now Now, getting into a war won't do us any good. There's no solid military advantage, and it will end in a War of Attrition.

And no, I would like to entertain myself at least before the killing starts.

I am very pragmatic. Which is why I have Shady; he will keep you fellas off our backs while we consolidate in the East.

(Yes, I'm serious. Please no war at least until turn 20. I would like to at least declare my kingdom as the reborn Eastern Roman Empire)

We can work out some sort of Nonaggression Pact for the allotted years, so we can get our fun in.

DarthShady wrote:Also: Us

I know, our Switzerland is a little bias, apparently.

Master_Baerne wrote:Well, I think this calls for a celebration. Western Powers, drinks at Karmic Knight's place?

We really ought to get this conference started.

I’m sort of waiting for Gurren-Britannia to say Aye or Nay to joining the Grand Alliance (Aka NSTO, aka The West) in the conference.

DarthShady wrote:I guess there's always Barbarians and unaligned nations to slaughter.

Might I recommend a scramble for Africa?

Master_Baerne wrote:And on that note, allow me to mention that the Grand Alliance has an all-comers-accepted policy.

I did send invitations to Italy, Carthage, and Scandinavia.

PeZook wrote:*plots*

I don’t entirely trust this Pogoria being at the EViL, ViLE, MONOLiTHiC, EAST’S SHiNDiG

Setzer hasn't so much as logged in for the last month or so. Probably either the ship he is on has no internet access etc. Supposedly I wanted to work something out with him, but yeah...

As for nonaggression pact, I'm open to one but likely by the time we get down to decide anything, it'd be some.. a month or so from now.

Karmic Knight wrote:Might I recommend a scramble for Africa?

Egypt frowns on your recommendation. 'Sides, here be Giant Sandworms .

If we want action, we could allways fall back on an idea which i proposed a while back for an certain NPC Power...



Zor

Zor wrote:If we want action, we could allways fall back on an idea which i proposed a while back for an certain NPC Power...
Zor

Ya know.. it's actually a good idea to distract ourselves from the potential pissing contest.

But.. you are quite in the firing line if they do come.

I for one support the idea of the East being beaten on by the Far East.

And Karmic, if the Zor's carriers bother ya that much you can always start breeding some vicious giant aquatic beasties that eat carriers.

Fingolfin_Noldor wrote: You have lots of provinces to go consume in the Balkans. What are you grumbling about? I'm trying to forge a mega empire into the East over here, mind you.

Yes, and I'll get started on that right now--plus a small surprise.

As for the conference, consider that it's now in Unreal Time Tm.

Might I recommend the Black Sea Alliance?

I was thinking maybe something like the Legion, but that could work too.

I know, our Switzerland is a little bias, apparently.

SiegeTank wrote:

Karmic Knight wrote:Might I recommend a scramble for Africa?

Egypt frowns on your recommendation. 'Sides, here be Giant Sandworms .

Nah, I'll let Siege play alone in his sandbox. I'll just go cut a bloody path across the Balkans, and see where to go from there.

Zor wrote:If we want action, we could allways fall back on an idea which i proposed a while back for an certain NPC Power...

Zor

As much as I would enjoy slaughtering these NPC bastards, I don't want to waste troops fighting them. So, No.

Unless we can have a race of fish people attack from the west.

EDIT: Could someone provide a link to the new map, I lost mine.