Space Marines and doing the nasty

[2000AD]

Is it me or is there serious potential for a cheesy 40K porn film:

They should not have tried to recreate the cursed founding!
"By the Emperor"
And now, their worst dreams...
"What have we done"
Have come true!
"A space marine ..... with a functioning penis!"
"It's not only lungs you've given me 3 of"

Introducing Battle Brother Loooooove
"These deamon possessed women are testing even my endurance!"
In his motion picture debut...
"How fortunate that you were to find our Order of Sisters of Battle so soon."
LOVEHAMMER 40,000
"In the name of the Emperor, I do his will"
In the far future there is only sex!

[Lord Revan]

There is also the very real possibility that Space Marines have no idea HOW to have sex.

They're grabbed up at age 9-13, for most folks long before any kind of fuckativity is achieved, and i would be surprised if they even knew what a women looked like naked. At best, the ones who had hit puberty before they got plucked up would maybe know how to bang off but even that may be a distant memory for someone who may,very possibily, be a century or more in years, considering the expected lifespan of a Marine.

In fact its entirely possible they literally are never told the major differences betwene men and women, why would they it serves no purpose in battle to know what a woman's lower quarters look like, can it?

They might see some dead Eldar Banshee and look at her puzzled like...

"By jove! Brother-Chaplain, it appears this Eldar woman has no penis!"

"Xeno barbarism! Burn the body!"

I'd think they're probably given at least basic anatomy courses sometime during their training also there are female IG troopers (IIRC). though I dout they know why the difference exists.

[Shinova]

First, there has to be a dreadnought shell awaiting a new pilot. Since the Space Marines can't make them anymore, that means one of them can only be interred within a dreadnought if the previous owner bought it.

The Imperium can still build Dreadnought suits, just not very often, iirc.

The IoM's filled with religious fanatics, but they still regularly use science to build, improve, and develop new stuff; they just hold a different mentality toward it than we do.

Only certain techs like vortex grenades are truly lostech, and there are some special techs that only certain members of the Mechanicus know, and they guard that knowledge jealously.

[Lord Revan]

BTW there's was said Sisters of Battle won't fight along side the Space Marines, just how radical are they about it will the Adepta Soritas stop fighting the moment Space Marines arrive to the battlefield or will they avoid fighting with (on the same side) Space Marines if possible?

[Kuja]

BTW there's was said Sisters of Battle won't fight along side the Space Marines, just how radical are they about it will the Adepta Soritas stop fighting the moment Space Marines arrive to the battlefield or will they avoid fighting with (on the same side) Space Marines if possible?

They'll fight together. It's simply that the Sisters disapprove of the use of sanctioned psykers (AKA Librarians) and the Space Marines' view of the Emperor as a patron and comrade rather than a god.

[The Yosemite Bear]

Space Marines are, at their core, basically warrior monks. They're a cult brotherhood, with, IIRC, strict rules about their every waking hour when not on Crusade.

So as far as i know, they can have sex but are not allowed to, as practically every wakeing hour is spent on Crusade, training, or praying.

More so, i'm rather positive i read somewhere they're rendered sterile, but not unable to have sex. I think some Space Wolves have have sex, but they cant father children as they're infertile.

not to mention the "niven problem" or as the Emporer's Children have already shown, yes space marines can have sex, the unfortunate male or female is going to be bleeding badly, along with severe internal injuries, (skin is like sharkskin)

[Currald]

Um, okay. That was gross.

Aaaanyway, I seem to recall that the Index Astartes article for the Salamanders mentions that older marines can retire from the chapter and have a family on their homeworld. Can anyone confirm? I don't own the article.

[The Yosemite Bear]

well you just need an imagination and read the descriptions of Black Carapace (last genetic implant allows the marine to interface with their powered armour, makes the skin tough as leather, and sandpaper/sharklike), the organs that are first installed allow them to metabolize heavy metals, increasing their muscle and bone density to five times the human level. the strength and bone density is enough to break bones and crush internal organs in any for position but spooning/fem superior....

and no blow jobs on the scouts are a no-no as they will probably crush the person's skull with their hands....

[Lost Soal]

Various times the daily ritual and creation process have come up. In case there are still questions, I'll post these articles.

Creation of a Space Marine
The Article is 5 pages long so I won't copy it all, however one paragraph in particular addresses the latest round of questions in this thread:

These considerations mean that only a small proportion of people can become Space Marines. They must be male because zygotes are keyed to male hormones and tissue types, hence the need for tissue compatibility tests and psychological screening. If these tests prove successful, a candidate becomes a neophyte. With the completion of organ implantation and attendant chemical and hypnotic training, the subject becomes an initiate. An initiate receives training before joining the ranks as a full brother. A Marine usually joins the ranks between the ages of 16-18, but such are the hormonal changes induced by the process of creating a Space Marine that recruits are physically fully grown before then. Pressures during wartime may accelerate the process.

Space Marine Daily Rituals

The physical, psychological and religious training that a Space Marine must undergo in order to remain an effective fighting member of the Adeptus Astartes is strict and relentless. Here is the daily regime that the Codex Astartes requires of any battle brother during times of peace.
Battle Brothers

0400 Morning Prayer
Day is begun with morning prayer and contemplation within the Company Chapel, led by the Company Chaplain. The Company standard and relics are displayed and the brethren repeat their oaths of loyalty to the Chapter and the Emperor. At this juncture the Captain may choose to address the brethren, issue orders, make any appropriate announcements (such as awards and promotions) and dispense summary punishments as deemed necessary.

0500 Morning Firing Rites
After prayer is complete the brethren undertake the first firing rites of the day. A variety of weaponry is used but the emphasis is placed on practice with the Space Marine's personal weaponry. Awards are made for consistently good marksmanship and punishments are inflicted for poor weapon discipline and accuracy. The firing rites may be undertaken in the ranges located in the armoury or outside the fortress.

0700 Battle Practice
The first battle practice of the day is generally geared towards hand-to-hand combat and close quarter fighting. The exact procedures followed vary immensely but often include numerous live-firing exercises and simulated battle conditions in a number of lethal or non-lethal environments. For this reason (and for reasons of defence) most of the Space Marine fortress-monasteries are often situated in extremely inhospitable areas be they arctic, volcanic, corrosive, swamp, carnivorous jungle or a combination thereof.

1200 Midday Prayer
The brethren are gathered once more to give praise to the Emperor and their Primarch. During extended battle practice such prayer may be undertaken in the field, potentially while live-firing exercises continue. At this time any brethren severely injured in the morning battle practice are transported to the Apothecarion.

1300 Midday Meal
The Space Marines partake of their first sustenance of the day at this juncture. Frequently this will be a substance inedible to ordinary humans or a local life form which is hunted and slain during the morning battle practice.

1315 Tactical Indoctrination
Hypnotherapy and psychoconditioning are used to rapidly assimilate the Chapter tactical doctrines on a number of subjects. New battle languages are learned, alien weaponry, troops and vehicles are studied. Squad and company tactics are reviewed and lessons learned from the morning battle practice are examined.

1500 Battle Practice
Afternoon battle practice usually revolves around squad and company level tactics and reinforcement of the tactical indoctrination segment. Specialist squads such as Devastors and assault troops will often use this opportunity to hone their particular skills while the tactical brethren practice close support with Dreadnoughts, armour and personnel carriers.

2000 Evening prayer
Evening prayer is viewed as a time for contemplation and giving thanks for the day's lessons learned. Once more praise is rendered to the Emperor and the Chapter's Primarch for the inception and existence of the Chapter. Gene-seed sampling may be undertaken at this time as it has by now been stimulated by the day's activities.

2100 Evening Meal
The evening meal is a more sedate affair than that at midday, with a substantial repast provided by the Chapter's serfs under the watchful eye of the Lord of the Household. Substantial quantities of protein rich food are made available, particularly to the younger brethren. Indulgent Chapter Masters may even permit the brethren to partake of alcoholic beverages at this time if the day's activities have been expertly done.

2130 Night Fighting Exercises
Chapters based on worlds where there is no perceptible night segment, or on ships in the void use this opportunity to practice combat underwater, in zero gravity, through dense fog or smoke or in other exotic conditions.

2315 Maintenance Rituals
Each Space Marine is expected to maintain and repair his own armour and weaponry according to standard rituals. Seriously damaged or defective gear is surrendered to the Master of the Forge for inspection and repair. Every effort is made to ensure that a Space Marine keeps the same set of equipment after their investiture so that they develop a close bond and understanding of the Machine Spirits they will rely on in battle.

2345 Free Time
Some Chapter Masters view this period of free time as an unwarranted luxury at best and a dangerous distraction at worst. It is maintained in most Chapters out of reverence for the Codex Astartes and Roboute Guilliman's words. "Consider (the) magnitude of your duty at your leisure, but act without hesitation when (action) is required." In honour of this Space Marines are permitted a short period of leisure each day to consider the magnitude of their duty to the Emperor.

0000 Rest Period Begins
Space Marines do not truly need sleep thanks to the Catalepsean Node -- an implant in their brain that enables them to rest half of their brain at a time whilst still maintaining awareness with the other half. However extended interference with the circadian rhythms of sleep has been shown to impair efficiency and induce personality disorders. To prevent this Space Marines enter a dreamless fugue state for four hours per day when not on campaign. The longest recorded incident of a Space Marine unit going without sleep was during the Ryan's World incident (Ref. 061.24/A) when the Crimson Fists remnants led by Master Kantor remained operational for a period of 328.7 standard hours.

Complied from information supplied by the Black Consuls, Salamanders, Fleshtearers, Ultramarines and Silver Skulls Chapters. Additional notes are culled from the Codex Astartes (M38.transcription) and personal commentary by Captain Alhaus of the Black Templars.

Notes:
Many Chapter Masters and Company Captains favour changing times and details of the daily ritual to keep their brethren alert and able to quickly assimilate new orders or situations. Interruption of the rest period is frequent and the elimination of meals and the shortening of prayer times commonplace.

All Chapters have high days or feast days which usually celebrate the ascendance of the Emperor to the Golden Throne and the birth and death of their own Primarch (the actual dates observed for these practices vary immensely). On such special days all members of the Chapter who are present at the fortress will gather in the Assimularum for prayers led by the Chapter Master followed by a day long celebration which traditionally includes contests of skill and strength. This is also the traditional time for the acceptance of Neophytes, the elevation of Neophytes to Initiates, and the elevation of Initiates to full brethren. When there are worthy candidates, brethren may also be accepted into the Veteran company on a feast day. In all cases trials by ordeal are common, and in some cases fatal.

Typically brethren with special skills are permitted to work in the forges or the Apothecarion between the evening meal and rest period at the discretion of the Company Captain. There they are taught by the Techmarines or Apothecaries in their arcane crafts. Exceptional artisans and chirurgeons will be elevated to apprentice Techmarines or Apothecaries after a suitable period spent in vigil within the Solitorium.

The honour of guarding the Chapter fortress is generally rotated between the 1st through 5th Companies according to which are present at the time. The 6th through 9th (reserve) Companies train more regularly as they bear the majority of the Chapter's most recently inducted brethren.

Brethren undertake penitence and purgation if they fail in their duties. This is usually self-imposed as a mark of dedication to the Emperor. Gross breaches of Chapter law may be met with death or exile of a permanent or temporary nature (temporary exile is usually linked to the achievement of a specified goal).

[Trytostaydead]

That Family Guy episode comes to mind where Superman is in hell for ripping a hooker in half like a phone book.

[The Grim Squeaker]

That Family Guy episode comes to mind where Superman is in hell for ripping a hooker in half like a phone book.

Well she did make a crack about him being faster than a speeding bullet .
Also what a marine would do to someone making fun of their worshipping the emperor doesn't bear thinking. [Remmember Nighthaunter and the skinhouses?]

[Stravo]

What is the space marine relationship to the Chaos Space Marines? Is it rabid hatred on sight, grudging respect? Is it hatred to the point where they would abandon a military goal to engage and kill them? Foe example say the Space Marines have to secure an objective. They're fighting their way through enemy lines and they see Chaos Space Marines on the opposite flank. Would they fight their way through the enemy to engage the Chaos Marines or would they continue on to their objective?

And the opposite view of Chaos Marines to their opposite numbers?

[The Yosemite Bear]

depends on the chapters involved....

Dark Angels will stab their own allies in the back and abandon objectives to go after chaos marines, especially after the Fallen.

The Space wolves have a simular feeling in reguards to the Thousand Sons.

Imperial Fists will never violate their orders, the objectives and orders come first, once you have secured the area, destroy them.

the Raven Gaurd will find some some way to sneak up on their enemies.

[Shinova]

What is the space marine relationship to the Chaos Space Marines? Is it rabid hatred on sight, grudging respect? Is it hatred to the point where they would abandon a military goal to engage and kill them? Foe example say the Space Marines have to secure an objective. They're fighting their way through enemy lines and they see Chaos Space Marines on the opposite flank. Would they fight their way through the enemy to engage the Chaos Marines or would they continue on to their objective?

And the opposite view of Chaos Marines to their opposite numbers?

Rabid hatred on sight. As for abandoning a military goal, that depends on the chapter in question. Dark Angels may abandon military goals for the sake of pursuing fallen Dark Angels. Space Wolves may be inclined to go hunt Chaos marines over some military goal as well. Ultramarines, on the other hand, are the by-the-book chapter and are more likely to stick to the mission. Thus, it varies a bit.

[Kuja]

What is the space marine relationship to the Chaos Space Marines? Is it rabid hatred on sight, grudging respect? Is it hatred to the point where they would abandon a military goal to engage and kill them? Foe example say the Space Marines have to secure an objective. They're fighting their way through enemy lines and they see Chaos Space Marines on the opposite flank. Would they fight their way through the enemy to engage the Chaos Marines or would they continue on to their objective?

Varies chapter to chapter from frothing hatred to cold hatred. And yes, some of the more 'elemental' chapters have historically broken off ongoing fights to turn around and engage a Chaos force. However, there is no respect, grudging or otherwise, on anything more than a 'that was a good move, dammit' reactionary level.

And the opposite view of Chaos Marines to their opposite numbers?

Ranges from naive, deluded fools (Thousand Sons attitude) to bitter, hated rivals (Iron Warriors attitude) to traitors to be slaughtered in the name of Chaos (Word Bearers attitude).

[Vehrec]

Like most things, I expect it varries from chapter to chapter. Ultramarines are professinal enough that they wouldn't abandon their objective, but would take risks to get done faster and enable their own attack on the Traitor Legion. Dark Angels on the other hand might go strait on in, or at least as close to charging blindly as Space Marines ever get. I think the main reason for most of the stories about Space Marines charging in is due more to Authors who don't really want to get too complex in their tactics, and a certain degree of 'Because They Can.'
If you told a Space Marrine to take that hill, and handed him a Herring, he could probably do it.

[Stravo]

And do the Chaos marines have a geneseed like the normal Marines? Do they propagate and recruit like the Marines? I get the sense from the fluff that its a little different than that. There's rampant mutation and the like in the Chaos Marine camp.

[Kuja]

And do the Chaos marines have a geneseed like the normal Marines? Do they propagate and recruit like the Marines? I get the sense from the fluff that its a little different than that. There's rampant mutation and the like in the Chaos Marine camp.

Essentially yes. They still make marines the same way, just not as often. What happens next is the result of Chaos mutation and weird geneseed.

[The Yosemite Bear]

actually they are cloned by a guy named Fabious Bile....

[The Yosemite Bear]

yes they also find people through other means....

[Brother-Captain Gaius]

Due to the lack of physical laws in the Warp, a lot of existing Chaos Space Marines would have been alive during the Heresy itself. Losses are inevitable though, and as others have pointed out, new ones are created through various unpleasant processes, and Marine will go rogue and even traitor from time to time as well and make prime material for inclusion in the Traitor Legions.

[Azazal]

And do the Chaos marines have a geneseed like the normal Marines? Do they propagate and recruit like the Marines? I get the sense from the fluff that its a little different than that. There's rampant mutation and the like in the Chaos Marine camp.

If you haven't picked them up already, get Storm of Iron and Dead Sky Black Sun your questions onf chaos marine creation will be addresses.

Plus they are good books