They're sex-changing X-Men's Angel? WTF? [Nyet, comrades]

Chmee · Post by **Chmee** » 2005-03-22 06:14pm

Maybe it's old, just found it myself ....... god damn these people piss me off. Bad enough that Warren wasn't in the first damned movie, now Angel isn't even a Warren? Why not just make him a fucking mutant bunny rabbit that wears a Barbarella outfit while you're at it?

Ain't It Cool News reported several rumors about the upcoming third X-Men movie, including the addition of three new mutants. The three new X-Men will be the blue-haired Beast, the Cajun Gambit and the winged mutant Angel, the site reported.

The site added that Angel will be female, unlike the character in the Marvel Comics series.

Beast will "serve the same role in these films that Morpheus did in The Matrix," the site reported.

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Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2005-03-22 06:30pm

There was a female Angel in Grant Morrison's New X-Men, maybe she's the one that will be in the movie. Totally different character, though.

Elheru Aran · Post by **Elheru Aran** » 2005-03-22 06:37pm

I would be highly dubious of this unless more is heard.... AICN is somewhat iffy as far as reliability goes.

Zor · Post by **Zor** » 2005-03-22 06:59pm

Belongs in Fanatsy

Zor

Chmee · Post by **Chmee** » 2005-03-22 07:01pm

Elheru Aran wrote:I would be highly dubious of this unless more is heard.... AICN is somewhat iffy as far as reliability goes.

Excellent skepticism, apparently ...

IGN FilmForce checked with its super-secret X3 insider who declared that "Angel is male!" We were advised that Angel (a.k.a. Warren Worthington III) will be a "major character" as will Beast.

Beast will be seen in his transformed state and will be played by a different actor than Steve Bacic, who appeared as Hank McCoy in X2.

Overall, our source confirmed the rest of the AICN report as accurate but emphasized that "Gambit is not a major character." While the ragin' Cajun enjoyed a relationship with Rogue in the comics, it's uncertain whether that will be a part of X3 in any way (or how any potential affair will sit with Rogue's current beau, Bobby "Iceman" Drake).

IGN's source also revealed that Cyclops is still in the movie but not as a major character. They would not reveal anything more about his part but did confirm that Matthew Vaughn is indeed on-board to direct.

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Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2005-03-22 07:02pm

Goddammit, if Cyclops is just going to barely be in the movie again I sincerely hope they aren't doing the Dark Phoenix Saga like they foreshadowed in X2. How can you do that story with Cyclops not being a major player?

Vendetta · Post by **Vendetta** » 2005-03-22 07:14pm

They probably won't do Dark Phoenix.

James Marsden will be on Superman Returns, so having Cyclops as a major was pretty much shot anyway.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2005-03-22 07:36pm

Vendetta wrote:They probably won't do Dark Phoenix.

James Marsden will be on Superman Returns, so having Cyclops as a major was pretty much shot anyway.

Pretty sure he won't have a huge part in Superman Returns, though. It's possible for him to be in both.

Batman · Post by **Batman** » 2005-03-22 07:44pm

Hank McCoy was in X2?

Anybody know where?
And did they really need more characters? How about elaborating on those that are already in there?
I mean Kitty and Peter had what basically were cameos, how about bring those to the foreground a bit more?

Lord Revan · Post by **Lord Revan** » 2005-03-22 07:47pm

Batman wrote:Hank McCoy was in X2?
Anybody know where?

he's seen very briefly in a TV (can't remember exactly were).

Elheru Aran · Post by **Elheru Aran** » 2005-03-22 07:50pm

Batman wrote:Hank McCoy was in X2?
Anybody know where?
And did they really need more characters? How about elaborating on those that are already in there?
I mean Kitty and Peter had what basically were cameos, how about bring those to the foreground a bit more?

Hank was speaking on TV in the bit where Magneto's guard is in the bar-- talking about how we should take a more humane approach to the mutants, etc, something like that-- kinda nerdy professor-ish guy with glasses.

And I agree-- they should have worked with Colossus a little more. Kitty seemed to be basically a student, so she doesn't need a real big role.

They did imply that Phoenix would appear, and I wouldn't be surprised if this movie focuses somewhat on that.

A bonus of the extra characters-- less Wolverine-wank...

Chmee · Post by **Chmee** » 2005-03-22 07:50pm

Lord Revan wrote:
Batman wrote:Hank McCoy was in X2?
Anybody know where?
he's seen very briefly in a TV (can't remember exactly were).

Yeah, there was a tv news story where they were interviewing Hank McCoy as an expert on something ...

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2005-03-22 07:51pm

I think McCoy was on tv in some part of the movie. I think when they went to Iceman's house or something like that.

Old Plympto · Post by **Old Plympto** » 2005-03-22 07:53pm

Slartibartfast wrote:I think McCoy was on tv in some part of the movie. I think when they went to Iceman's house or something like that.

It was in the bar before Mystique hit on that guard. IIRC he was in a TV debate with another supporting character in the comics... Bolivar Trask or someone.

Stofsk · Post by **Stofsk** » 2005-03-22 08:24pm

I don't give a shit about Angel and Warren or Wanda, since the character only served in the love triangle between Cyclops-Jean Grey-Angel. Frankly the entire character sucks. "I can fly, and I've got wings."

Apocalypse: "We'll see about those wings..."

Archangel was cooler because his wings were made of metal, and shot shit at arseholes. Those are the sorts of wings you want. Not this shitty feather shit. Plus Archangel's girlfriend was hotter, but then she died. Or wait, which Psylocke was the one that died? I seem to recall there were a few clones involved or something.

I'm more worried that Gambit will be in this movie. "Fear my power of throwing cards at you. I can deal a mean hand. I am teh ragin' Cajun."

But Beast will be there, so it's not all bad. I want to see McCoy do somersaults and act like a monkey while denigrating his opponent's improper usage of grammar.

Losonti Tokash · Post by **Losonti Tokash** » 2005-03-22 08:38pm

Well, on one hand, Angel maintains his gender, but on the other hand, he's in the movie. Never seemed like a very interesting character to me, but whatever.

And for the record, Gambit was my favorite X-man, ever.

Grand Moff Yenchin · Post by **Grand Moff Yenchin** » 2005-03-22 10:30pm

Am I the only one who's ok to see Kelly Hu as the Death Horseman?

Vendetta wrote:They probably won't do Dark Phoenix.

James Marsden will be on Superman Returns, so having Cyclops as a major was pretty much shot anyway.

Another reason to have mixed feelings on Bryan Singer's leave

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2005-03-22 10:48pm

Grand Moff Yenchin wrote:Am I the only one who's ok to see Kelly Hu as the Death Horseman?

And she's going to play the twin sister of the character in X2?

Jason von Evil · Post by **Jason von Evil** » 2005-03-22 11:40pm

Stofsk wrote:I don't give a shit about Angel and Warren or Wanda, since the character only served in the love triangle between Cyclops-Jean Grey-Angel. Frankly the entire character sucks. "I can fly, and I've got wings."

Apocalypse: "We'll see about those wings..."

Archangel was cooler because his wings were made of metal, and shot shit at arseholes. Those are the sorts of wings you want. Not this shitty feather shit. Plus Archangel's girlfriend was hotter, but then she died. Or wait, which Psylocke was the one that died? I seem to recall there were a few clones involved or something.

I'm more worried that Gambit will be in this movie. "Fear my power of throwing cards at you. I can deal a mean hand. I am teh ragin' Cajun."

But Beast will be there, so it's not all bad. I want to see McCoy do somersaults and act like a monkey while denigrating his opponent's improper usage of grammar.

Wow, aren't you just a bundle of happy love?

The rumor pissed people off because Angel was one of the five original X-Men. Apocolypse gave him metal wings because Angel lost his natural ones (his best buddy had them amputated after the Mutant Massacre). They ended up growing back (thanks, apparently to the metal wings themselves). Psylocke is still dead.

Whats the problem with Gambit? He's got teh l33t thievin' skillz (:P) and his ability to charge objects with energy is nice. He only uses cards because its a gimmic. He's used other objects before.

Anyways, if they don't do the Dark Phoenix Saga in X3, they might do it in X4. They could use it to explain Cyclop's absense in X3.

RedImperator · Post by **RedImperator** » 2005-03-22 11:49pm

Hi ho, hi ho, to Fantasy we go.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2005-03-22 11:50pm

Psylocke is still dead.

Haha, nope! She's back!

Jason von Evil · Post by **Jason von Evil** » 2005-03-22 11:54pm

Joe wrote:
Psylocke is still dead.
Haha, nope! She's back!

*Develops a twitch* ...

Post by **Vympel** » 2005-03-23 12:16am

IGN's source also revealed that Cyclops is still in the movie but not as a major character. They would not reveal anything more about his part but did confirm that Matthew Vaughn is indeed on-board to direct.

WTF? You can *see* the phoenix in the water at the end of X2. If they fucking DARE to do an X3 with phoenix and not have cylcops as a major character, I will go on a murderous rampage- especially if it's just X3: Wolverine and Phoenix

Pick · Post by **Pick** » 2005-03-23 05:12am

Hmm, LOVE Hank. (:luv:)

HATE Gambit.

Angel is meh male or female.

I guess this pretty much makes things even in my eyes.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2005-03-23 05:15am

Gambit can take that fucking staff of his and use it to ramrod his fucking cards up his ass.