Joker (spoilers)

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Re: Joker (spoilers)

Post by Elheru Aran » 2019-10-12 11:40am

Lord Revan wrote:
2019-10-12 08:29am
Darth Yan wrote:
2019-10-11 11:47pm
The Joker is usually portrayed as being incredibly smart even if his hand to hand fluctuates (he beats Ra's at chest and it's implied HE created the joker venom formula)
Isn't it generally implied that reason the Joker is a threat to anyone is because he's so smart and even when he's protraid as competent fighter he's no match to Batman and would be just another generic thug if he didn't have his intelligence.
Er, that and the whole criminally-insane thing...
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Re: Joker (spoilers)

Post by SolarpunkFan » 2019-10-12 06:54pm

Just came back from it.

My (very short) verdict: depressing but good. Some people might need a breather after the film.
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Re: Joker (spoilers)

Post by Solauren » 2019-10-12 07:58pm

The Joker's a threat because he's

#1 - Very Smart
#2 - Very Creative
#3 - Just doesn't care.
#4 - A sadist, and possibly a machicist. He ENJOYS causing as much damage as possible.

When the Joker sets out to do something, he wants as many people to suffer as possible. As he's smart enough to know how.
He is probably the ultimate 'home-grown terrorist' when you get down to it. The difference is, because he's criminally insane (I actually doubt that, but whatever), and the DC justice and jail system is crap, they can't contain him.
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Re: Joker (spoilers)

Post by Raw Shark » 2019-10-13 04:02pm

I haven't watched the movie my sig is from in a while, but didn't the Joker give Bats a full-on, "you complete me," speech in there? It doesn't matter how crazy or deadly he actually is, he doesn't actually want to kill Bruce. He sees him as his best friend.

"Do I really look like a guy with a plan? Y'know what I am? I'm a dog chasing cars. I wouldn't know what to do with one if I caught it! Y'know, I just do things..." --The Joker

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Re: Joker (spoilers)

Post by Solauren » 2019-10-13 06:21pm

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Re: Joker (spoilers)

Post by FaxModem1 » 2019-10-14 12:58am

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Re: Joker (spoilers)

Post by Solauren » 2019-10-14 11:15am

Deep seated emotional addiction he doesn't want to quit?

Then again, it's the Joker, it's probably all of the above and none of the above.
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Re: Joker (spoilers)

Post by Raw Shark » 2019-10-21 04:34pm

Seems legit.

"Do I really look like a guy with a plan? Y'know what I am? I'm a dog chasing cars. I wouldn't know what to do with one if I caught it! Y'know, I just do things..." --The Joker

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Re: Joker (spoilers)

Post by Tribble » 2019-10-21 05:02pm

Raw Shark wrote:
2019-10-13 04:02pm
I haven't watched the movie my sig is from in a while, but didn't the Joker give Bats a full-on, "you complete me," speech in there? It doesn't matter how crazy or deadly he actually is, he doesn't actually want to kill Bruce. He sees him as his best friend.
Depends on the incarnation too tbh. For example DCAU Joker usually wanted to see Batman dead, the trick being he wanted to be the one to do it via one of his death traps. He gradually tired of the duel as well; by the time Batman was “captured” in a Justice League episode the Joker was advocating for Batman to be killed right away, and in Return of the Joker he tried his best to kill both Bruce and Terry multiple times.
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Re: Joker (spoilers)

Post by Raw Shark » 2019-10-22 11:51am

Tribble wrote:
2019-10-21 05:02pm
Depends on the incarnation too tbh. For example DCAU Joker usually wanted to see Batman dead, the trick being he wanted to be the one to do it via one of his death traps. He gradually tired of the duel as well; by the time Batman was “captured” in a Justice League episode the Joker was advocating for Batman to be killed right away, and in Return of the Joker he tried his best to kill both Bruce and Terry multiple times.
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Re: Joker (spoilers)

Post by madd0ct0r » 2019-10-27 06:35am

SolarpunkFan wrote:
2019-10-12 06:54pm
Just came back from it.

My (very short) verdict: depressing but good. Some people might need a breather after the film.
It was so good. Did not glamorise violence, showed his steady spiral in a almost sympathetic way and held up a caustic mirror to society.

Also had some truly dark laugh out loud moments.

As wife said "if you come out of the theater thinking you are on the side of the innocents, you didnt watch it"
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