Starfighters and their modern day counterparts
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Starfighters and their modern day counterparts
Ok, heres the way I see the starwars starfighters with the current day fighter jets:
X-Wing - F-15
A-Wing - F-16
Y-Wing - A-10
B-Wing - F-22
TIE - MiG-15 or a ME-109 (i know its not modern, but hey, something about it...)
Cant think of any more at the moment.
X-Wing - F-15
A-Wing - F-16
Y-Wing - A-10
B-Wing - F-22
TIE - MiG-15 or a ME-109 (i know its not modern, but hey, something about it...)
Cant think of any more at the moment.
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A dissagreement
A few points:
1. F-15 is faster then an F-16
2.The B wing is primarily a bomber. I would think it is close to the F111 aardvark or the F-35 JSF. The F22 is still primarily air supirioerity.
Y-wing is correct, they are both pigs and slow, with heavy arms. Tie fighter is something like a MiG-21 Fishbed. Cheap and expendable. Perhaps it is even more like those chinese deathtraps, the J whatevers.
Tie interceptor is MiG-25, DUH. Tie bomber is closest to something like an SU-23 flogger, used for close air support. Tie Advanced is like the SU-27 Flanker and the Tie Defender is most certainly the SU-37 or one of those.
The A-Wing is also like the MiG-25. F-16s are cheaper multirole fighters while F-15s, excluding F-15E is more for CAP.
1. F-15 is faster then an F-16
2.The B wing is primarily a bomber. I would think it is close to the F111 aardvark or the F-35 JSF. The F22 is still primarily air supirioerity.
Y-wing is correct, they are both pigs and slow, with heavy arms. Tie fighter is something like a MiG-21 Fishbed. Cheap and expendable. Perhaps it is even more like those chinese deathtraps, the J whatevers.
Tie interceptor is MiG-25, DUH. Tie bomber is closest to something like an SU-23 flogger, used for close air support. Tie Advanced is like the SU-27 Flanker and the Tie Defender is most certainly the SU-37 or one of those.
The A-Wing is also like the MiG-25. F-16s are cheaper multirole fighters while F-15s, excluding F-15E is more for CAP.
I'd peg the Y-wing as an F-4. Older, less advanced, but still not something you want to take lightly.
And the A-wing reminds me most of a F-104. It's the "speed above all" taken to the extream.
And the A-wing reminds me most of a F-104. It's the "speed above all" taken to the extream.
There is no problem to dificult for a signifigantly large enough quantity of C-4 to handle.
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A few corrections
TIE Interceptor is more like a MiG-29. Just because they are both called 'Interceptor' doesn't mean they have the same characteristics. The MiG-25 maneuvers like a brick but is extraordinarily fast. The Interceptor is both fast and maneuverable, lethal in close combat, but not big and powerful like the X-Wing/F-15- hence, MiG-29 (rather than Su-27).
Su-23 FLOGGER: No such thing. You mean either the Su-25 FROGFOOT or the MiG-27 FLOGGER-J (which is a strike fighter, rather than the MiG-23 FLOGGER, which is a straight fighter).
TIE Fighter is a lot like the MiG-21, I agree.
TIE Avenger: Su-27, for sure (slightly better than the F-15, but not by an appreciable margin)
TIE Defender: Su-37, for sure (much better than the F-15), I'd go so far as to say F-22: it is quite frankly the best fighter in all of Star Wars
There is no Rebel fighter that you could call an F-22.
TIE Interceptor is more like a MiG-29. Just because they are both called 'Interceptor' doesn't mean they have the same characteristics. The MiG-25 maneuvers like a brick but is extraordinarily fast. The Interceptor is both fast and maneuverable, lethal in close combat, but not big and powerful like the X-Wing/F-15- hence, MiG-29 (rather than Su-27).
Su-23 FLOGGER: No such thing. You mean either the Su-25 FROGFOOT or the MiG-27 FLOGGER-J (which is a strike fighter, rather than the MiG-23 FLOGGER, which is a straight fighter).
TIE Fighter is a lot like the MiG-21, I agree.
TIE Avenger: Su-27, for sure (slightly better than the F-15, but not by an appreciable margin)
TIE Defender: Su-37, for sure (much better than the F-15), I'd go so far as to say F-22: it is quite frankly the best fighter in all of Star Wars
There is no Rebel fighter that you could call an F-22.
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E-Wing; hmm I guess you could call it an F-22. I don't know anything about it performance wise though but I just like the TIE Defender so much I'm sure it kicks the crap out of it ![Smile :)](./images/smilies/icon_smile.gif)
What is it with these EU New Republic fighters?!
E-Wing
K-Wing
V-Wing
T-Wing
Jeez GET ORIGINAL !!! Not to mention they're all over-armed and look STUPID.
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V-Wing
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Jeez GET ORIGINAL !!! Not to mention they're all over-armed and look STUPID.
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Your forgeting the modual design of B-Wings, they can carry Proton Bombs if they want or Concussion Missles, So can an X-Wing or A-wing of a TIE-BomberNo, they don't carry that kind of ordinance. I have to agree with the comparision of the B-wing to the F-111 Ardvaark. Both are fast bomb trucks.
Remeber SW Scientists got over that old problem of running out of Bombs or what-not because the weapons made specficly FOR a plane/bomber is not aviable or the Plane/Bomber is not aviable
IE the SW equivlant of Bunker Busters can be carryed by anything from X-Wings to TIE Defenders
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But the B-wing is more of a fighter bomber than a pure bred bomber. Sure it can carry virtually any type of starfighter missle but it doesn't carry that many of them.Mr Bean wrote:Your forgeting the modual design of B-Wings, they can carry Proton Bombs if they want or Concussion Missles, So can an X-Wing or A-wing of a TIE-BomberNo, they don't carry that kind of ordinance. I have to agree with the comparision of the B-wing to the F-111 Ardvaark. Both are fast bomb trucks.
Remeber SW Scientists got over that old problem of running out of Bombs or what-not because the weapons made specficly FOR a plane/bomber is not aviable or the Plane/Bomber is not aviable
IE the SW equivlant of Bunker Busters can be carryed by anything from X-Wings to TIE Defenders
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When one can carry 200 Mega-ton bombs how many does one need?But the B-wing is more of a fighter bomber than a pure bred bomber. Sure it can carry virtually any type of starfighter missle but it doesn't carry that many of them.
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When 200 megatons are fly bites, you want to carry all you can.Mr Bean wrote:When one can carry 200 Mega-ton bombs how many does one need?But the B-wing is more of a fighter bomber than a pure bred bomber. Sure it can carry virtually any type of starfighter missle but it doesn't carry that many of them.
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Not vs ground targets which is why I'm refering to the B-Wing as a B-52, it can be a heavy, strong hard to take out anti-ground Ship if you want
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B-Wing - A-10
Y-Wing - F-111
X-Wing - F-15
A-Wing - F-104
T-Wing - F-16
K-Wing - FB-22
E-Wing - YF-23
XJ-Wing - F-22
I think that about sums it up.
Y-Wing - F-111
X-Wing - F-15
A-Wing - F-104
T-Wing - F-16
K-Wing - FB-22
E-Wing - YF-23
XJ-Wing - F-22
I think that about sums it up.
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Re: A dissagreement
So are all the bad guys Russians now?Headshots_Sold_Here wrote:A few points:
1. F-15 is faster then an F-16
2.The B wing is primarily a bomber. I would think it is close to the F111 aardvark or the F-35 JSF. The F22 is still primarily air supirioerity.
Y-wing is correct, they are both pigs and slow, with heavy arms. Tie fighter is something like a MiG-21 Fishbed. Cheap and expendable. Perhaps it is even more like those chinese deathtraps, the J whatevers.
Tie interceptor is MiG-25, DUH. Tie bomber is closest to something like an SU-23 flogger, used for close air support. Tie Advanced is like the SU-27 Flanker and the Tie Defender is most certainly the SU-37 or one of those.
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Vympel, thanks for the corrections. I mean the swing wing close air support one(russian). Not sure about the MiG 25 or 29 thing.
Aleyska, I think the A-10 is prolly like the tie scimitar or something. B-Wings are either F-111 as I siad or B-1Bs, though the F111 is prolly more correct.
The problem with the A wing-F104 is the fact that the A wing is fairly new while the F-104 is an older fighter. I would be tempted to say MiG-27, but I dunno about that. Tie Defender is definately the best fighter, see isard's revenge. To find a russian counterpart the only one I can find is the SU-37 berkut but even that may not be good enough compared to the F-22(debateable topic, so sue me)
The F-16 is not on the level of the T-wing. Even though it is cheaper then an Eagle, it is NOT a bad jet, capable of taking on many russian jets.The mig 29 is its supirior, but the F-16 is a very multirole fighter, and designed for our favorate Econo-Jet airforces. Thus it could be compared to the incom I-7 or A-9 Vigilance, in that it is a fair craft and yet cheaper then the norm. The R-49 starchaser and Z-95 and T-wing are all mostly F-5 Tiger style craft. Cheap, old, but effective.
Aleyska, I think the A-10 is prolly like the tie scimitar or something. B-Wings are either F-111 as I siad or B-1Bs, though the F111 is prolly more correct.
The problem with the A wing-F104 is the fact that the A wing is fairly new while the F-104 is an older fighter. I would be tempted to say MiG-27, but I dunno about that. Tie Defender is definately the best fighter, see isard's revenge. To find a russian counterpart the only one I can find is the SU-37 berkut but even that may not be good enough compared to the F-22(debateable topic, so sue me)
The F-16 is not on the level of the T-wing. Even though it is cheaper then an Eagle, it is NOT a bad jet, capable of taking on many russian jets.The mig 29 is its supirior, but the F-16 is a very multirole fighter, and designed for our favorate Econo-Jet airforces. Thus it could be compared to the incom I-7 or A-9 Vigilance, in that it is a fair craft and yet cheaper then the norm. The R-49 starchaser and Z-95 and T-wing are all mostly F-5 Tiger style craft. Cheap, old, but effective.
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I dont know anything about modern comparisons, so I'm going to clear out a few points on some SW fighters:
X-wing - dont think I need to tell anyone its a space superiority fighter. Also something of a "Jack of All trades" ship, but primarily dogfighter first and foremost.
A-wing: Its a speedster. It emphasizes acceleration and agility in a small package, but at the expense of fragility (lighter shields, less powerful and more short-ranged weapons, and more susceptible to damage than X-wings). Meant as an interceptor and "hit and run" ship. Carries a jammer to support this role.
Y-wing: Multi-role fighter, jack of all trades. Highly modular, but retains far more durability than an X-wing, even if it is somewhat slower and less agile. Still moreso than B-wing. Roles include long range recon (Y-wing Longprobe variants) light bomber, and heavy fighter/escort. More of a "Jack of All Trades" than an X-wing was, at least early on (until recon variants of X-wings started appearing, at least)
B-wing: Most people credit this thing as a bomber. This is not strictly true. The B-wing was designed for one and one purpose alone - to take on capital ships. Actually, it was meant ot take on smaller cap ships (Escort frigates and such, which were inflictng severe losses on fighter groups during Rebel Hit and Fade attacks.) Was used at endor and beyond to supplement capital ship assaults. Slowest of Rebel fighters and most sluggish, but also the most durable. Ion cannons capable of taking down targets much bigger than what an Ion cannon can, heavy proton torpedo launchers, and so forth. ACcording to the SWTJ, a B-wing had more raw firepower than most corvettes ("The craft carries a formidible array comprise of ion cannons, lasers, two proton torpedo launchers, a heavy laser, and two twin auto blasters- providing more raw firepower than even most corvettes are equipped with." - SWTJ page 152) Later models of B-wings were two seaters, adding a gunner to help streamline ship operation, and expanded ammo capacity from eight to twenty protorps (although some models appeared to be able to carry twelve protorps, not eight.)
E-wings were something of a heavier attack/assault fighter with superiority roles - they had 3 heavy lasers, agility greater than an X-wing (speed and manuverability comparable to TIE interceptors, IIRC) and carried sixteen protorps. Of course, this was until the T-65AC4 (which was faster and more agile than the E-wing even.) And we don't have to even mention the XJ-wings.
X-wing - dont think I need to tell anyone its a space superiority fighter. Also something of a "Jack of All trades" ship, but primarily dogfighter first and foremost.
A-wing: Its a speedster. It emphasizes acceleration and agility in a small package, but at the expense of fragility (lighter shields, less powerful and more short-ranged weapons, and more susceptible to damage than X-wings). Meant as an interceptor and "hit and run" ship. Carries a jammer to support this role.
Y-wing: Multi-role fighter, jack of all trades. Highly modular, but retains far more durability than an X-wing, even if it is somewhat slower and less agile. Still moreso than B-wing. Roles include long range recon (Y-wing Longprobe variants) light bomber, and heavy fighter/escort. More of a "Jack of All Trades" than an X-wing was, at least early on (until recon variants of X-wings started appearing, at least)
B-wing: Most people credit this thing as a bomber. This is not strictly true. The B-wing was designed for one and one purpose alone - to take on capital ships. Actually, it was meant ot take on smaller cap ships (Escort frigates and such, which were inflictng severe losses on fighter groups during Rebel Hit and Fade attacks.) Was used at endor and beyond to supplement capital ship assaults. Slowest of Rebel fighters and most sluggish, but also the most durable. Ion cannons capable of taking down targets much bigger than what an Ion cannon can, heavy proton torpedo launchers, and so forth. ACcording to the SWTJ, a B-wing had more raw firepower than most corvettes ("The craft carries a formidible array comprise of ion cannons, lasers, two proton torpedo launchers, a heavy laser, and two twin auto blasters- providing more raw firepower than even most corvettes are equipped with." - SWTJ page 152) Later models of B-wings were two seaters, adding a gunner to help streamline ship operation, and expanded ammo capacity from eight to twenty protorps (although some models appeared to be able to carry twelve protorps, not eight.)
E-wings were something of a heavier attack/assault fighter with superiority roles - they had 3 heavy lasers, agility greater than an X-wing (speed and manuverability comparable to TIE interceptors, IIRC) and carried sixteen protorps. Of course, this was until the T-65AC4 (which was faster and more agile than the E-wing even.) And we don't have to even mention the XJ-wings.
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Which leaves the XJ-Wing as the P-51 while the E-Wing is the P-38.
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Damn right!Thunderfire wrote:Hmm I think WW2 fighters are more appropriate.
Rebel:
Z-95 = I-16
X-Wing = P-47
A-Wing = Yak-3
B-Wing = Beaufighter
Y-Wing = IL-2
Imperial:
Tie-Fighter = Ki-43
Tie-Interceptor = Zero
Tie-Bomber = Ju-87
Tie-Advanced = Ta-152
Gunboat = Fw190
Tie-Defender = Ta-187
Missileboat = Ho18
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Hmm, yes, the analagous WW2 planes are more appropriate, heres what i say on those-
X-Wing - P-47 OR P-38 - The Jack of All Trades, Get In And Go At It Fighter
A-Wing - Spitfire - The Fast Little Dogfighter
E-Wing - P-51 - The Cadillac of Fighters
B-Wing - Mosquito or Possibly the ME-110 Fighter Bomber
Y-Wing - P-40/P-39 - A Bit Outdated and Obsolete, But Still A Capable Fighter
Tie-Zero - Cheap and Disposable with the emphasis on maneuverability
Tie Interceptor - FW-190 - The New Fast Bird
Tie Defender OR Tie Advanced x1 - The ME-262 - Good plane, but too late to make a difference
Missile Boat - Bristol Beufighter or Mosquito
X-Wing - P-47 OR P-38 - The Jack of All Trades, Get In And Go At It Fighter
A-Wing - Spitfire - The Fast Little Dogfighter
E-Wing - P-51 - The Cadillac of Fighters
B-Wing - Mosquito or Possibly the ME-110 Fighter Bomber
Y-Wing - P-40/P-39 - A Bit Outdated and Obsolete, But Still A Capable Fighter
Tie-Zero - Cheap and Disposable with the emphasis on maneuverability
Tie Interceptor - FW-190 - The New Fast Bird
Tie Defender OR Tie Advanced x1 - The ME-262 - Good plane, but too late to make a difference
Missile Boat - Bristol Beufighter or Mosquito
The B-Wing would have been the A-20. That thing was built for ground assault with light bombs and heavy guns. I know a pilot who used to fly them in the Pacific and he told me plenty of stories about bombing air strips and tearing Japanesse destroyers and cruisers a new one. ![Cool 8)](./images/smilies/icon_cool.gif)
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