Gandalf wrote: ↑2019-04-16 10:32pm
I don't see her taking apprentices in the manner we've seen with Jedi in the past. I can however see something of a revolutionary leader type emerging, with a more democratised view of things like the Force.
Having a less-centralized Jedi Order could make it less vulnerable, and less alienating to some students (like Anakin). But no government is going to be happy with an order of superpowered people with no centralized authority overseeing them, I'd imagine.
Gandalf wrote: ↑2019-04-17 01:26am
Like all of the slave kids Anakin knew on Tatooine, or seemingly every droid. Star Wars is just really cool with slavery.
This is a downside of the whole "classic fantasy in space" thing, Star Wars has going.
Sometimes its portrayed negatively, and some attention is drawn to the horrors of it. While we didn't see Anakin getting whipped or chained or anything, his enslavement was certainly portrayed as a wrong, and as part of the reason behind his psychological issues and ultimate fall as an adult.* But other times...
I'm not sure whether AotC/RotS or Solo handled it the worst- the former films basically had slaves without acknowledging it as such. The latter went out of its way to point it out, then treated the character who wanted to liberate the slaves as a joke, before ending the film with the protagonists trading her as property to settle a gambling debt. Nice.
Let's just say I have good reason to hate Solo, and that's the main one.
I suppose there's a certain horrible realism to the casual racism towards droids and clones that we see, with the protagonists participating in slavery without a second thought. Its so ingrained in their society that to them its normal.
FaxModem1 wrote: ↑2019-04-17 01:22am
Well, we do have another force sensitive character in the movies that isn't affiliated with the First Order or is dead. The child slave on Canto Bight who has to resume sweeping at the end of the film. Hopefully they'll go somewhere with him plotwise. As opposed to, "Yeah, this kid is still a slave. Sucks, doesn't it?"
I think that he is supposed to simply symbolize all of the children around the galaxy who will be inspired to rise up and become more due to Luke's actions.
But I wouldn't mind seeing him again. If nothing else, though, I'm sure we'll get an EU novel laying out his entire life story at some point.
Knife wrote: ↑2019-04-16 10:02pm
It's not OT worships to ask what the fuck does Rey have to offer as a teacher beyond scrapping?
Never said it was. I was talking about the attachment to "Lone Vigilante Hero" plots which appeal to the American ideals of the heroic outlaw and Rugged Individualism.
But as to what she could teach:
-Salvage, obviously, as noted above. Probably machine maintainance on ships and droids too.
-Hand to hand combat.
-Maybe marksmanship, though she shines less there than in hand-to-hand.
-Desert survival skills.
-Piloting, probably (even if her ability is largely an outgrowth of her ability in the Force, that will be relevant to training Jedi).
-Warning students, based on her own experiences, about the temptations of the Dark Side.
Hell, I like Rey, I'm a TFA liker. She knows shit. It's like asking if Luke is going to take an apprentice in ESB after Cloud City.
I mean, its not like they have to follow the plot outline of the OT every step of the way. They could have the next film start five years later if they wanted to, with a much older and more experienced Rey.
*Put it that way, and Vader starts to sound like a karmic scourge to punish the galaxy for slavery. As Lincoln's Second Inaugural put it:
"Fondly do we hope, fervently do we pray, this mighty scourge of war will speedily pass away. But if God wills that it continue until all the wealth piled by the bondsman's two hundred and fifty years of unrequited toil shall have been sunk, and until every drop of blood drawn with the lash, shall have been repaid with another drawn by the sword, as was said three thousand years ago so still it must be said today: the judgements of the Lord are true and righteous altogether."
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