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My biggest complaint about the Vespa chase was how slow it felt. That leads into two questions:

- How fast would people realistically go if they were in a chase in streets that tight ?

- Could a reliance on practical effects, along with rules about keeping people safe while filming, be responsible for the chase being so slow ?
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bilateralrope wrote: 2022-01-15 11:13pm My biggest complaint about the Vespa chase was how slow it felt. That leads into two questions:

- How fast would people realistically go if they were in a chase in streets that tight ?

- Could a reliance on practical effects, along with rules about keeping people safe while filming, be responsible for the chase being so slow ?
They've done fast chases with safety rules and such before. I think there are two factors in play:

--first, they are by and large *not* filming on location. While they have some sets and such... most of their 'locations' are digitally created. So they can't exactly rev up an engine and zip down a street somewhere.

--second, this is a stylization, I think. It's intended to reflect the somewhat hinky effects of the original (pre-Special Edition) Star Wars. This means it looks... weird now.
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Elheru Aran wrote: 2022-01-16 04:18pm
bilateralrope wrote: 2022-01-15 11:13pm My biggest complaint about the Vespa chase was how slow it felt. That leads into two questions:

- How fast would people realistically go if they were in a chase in streets that tight ?

- Could a reliance on practical effects, along with rules about keeping people safe while filming, be responsible for the chase being so slow ?
They've done fast chases with safety rules and such before. I think there are two factors in play:

--first, they are by and large *not* filming on location. While they have some sets and such... most of their 'locations' are digitally created. So they can't exactly rev up an engine and zip down a street somewhere.

--second, this is a stylization, I think. It's intended to reflect the somewhat hinky effects of the original (pre-Special Edition) Star Wars. This means it looks... weird now.
How many of those faster chases were in streets that cramped ?

You have a point about the limited size of their set and possible stylization.
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They're still using THE ROOM, iirc, so there may have been issues keeping the backdrop updated as well.
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I thought it was called The Volume. But I can see how it would limit things. Not because of limiting the speed at which they can move the backdrop, but due to limited space to build physical sets.
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bilateralrope wrote: 2022-01-18 05:48am I thought it was called The Volume. But I can see how it would limit things. Not because of limiting the speed at which they can move the backdrop, but due to limited space to build physical sets.
You're right, it's The Volume.
Still, yes, there's a limit to what they can build, what they can show. I'm willing to give them the limitations because The Volume is still damn impressive.
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Galvatron wrote: 2022-01-14 07:08pm The Mos Vespas and "chase scene" were laughable.
Yeah, after introducing those lame, non-lethal assassins in the first episode, they somehow managed to introduce an even lamer, non threatening gang of emo teenagers on shining floating Vespa's. Why the fuck would someone like Boba Fett hire these tools as his minions? In a place like Tatooine, there's seriously no other guns for hire? Even Jawas seem more threatening and lethal.

Baba Fett of the OT used to be a mysterious badass. It's somewhat getting diminished now that he's playing a Nice Guy surrounded by carebears
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So Boba goes looking for his armor (that he was actually still wearing after having crawled out of the Sarlacc) inside the Sarlacc why? Does the sarlacc routinely eat random stuff lying around near its pit? Besides, the stuff looked 'ruined'. I don't care how tough beskar is, all the finickier bits of the suit are going to be goners (we're not talking medieval plate armor here, there's going to be electronics (or whatever Star Wars uses in their place), rocket fuel propellant a lot of other things that don't take well to having the shit acided out of them. Besides since the BoBF suit loos a lot greener than the OT one I think it would make more sense for him to have gotten a new one.
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Star Wars tech has always been stupidly durable. Like Artoo and Luke's X-wing. Hell, even Mando's original armor was easily fixed after it got busted to shit by the mudhorn in the first season.
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When Mando got Fett's armor in the series it was kind of ruined and scratched, at least on the paint, but still operable. The Sheriff was able to use it and when Fett subsequently got it back he immediately used like most of the weapons on it as well as show the chain code stored inside. And in the next episode the armor got a new paintjob.
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Loving the show so far. I wasn't too keen on Fett as a character previously, but making him an aged Temuera Morrison really fixes it.
Galvatron wrote: 2022-01-20 12:12am Star Wars tech has always been stupidly durable. Like Artoo and Luke's X-wing. Hell, even Mando's original armor was easily fixed after it got busted to shit by the mudhorn in the first season.
The Sarlaac also might not be too acidic, which would go with the 'slowly digested over a thousand years' line. Most certainly hyperbolic, but sort of fits?
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Batman wrote: 2022-01-19 09:40pm So Boba goes looking for his armor (that he was actually still wearing after having crawled out of the Sarlacc) inside the Sarlacc why?
He probably doesn't have clear memories of escaping.

As for any electronics within the armor, all we can say is that anything that was damaged got repaired or replaced. The beskar is the only part of the armor that stands out from other SW tech.
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We can probably assume the Sheriff did some repair work on the armour, since it had functioning parts when he was using it. Star Wars electronics/technology seems to be reasonably easy for just about anybody to repair/jury-rig. Perhaps even the Jawas when they pulled it off him.

Past that, I don't have a particularly great issue with Boba's armour as a plot point. There's a lot else that stands out like the rainbow-space-Vespa crew, and Mando S2 explained the armour situation reasonably well enough IMO.

EDIT to add: If anything, I am more confused by the timeline here.

Mandalorian happens 'approximately 5 years after the end of Return of the Jedi'. Season 2, we can more or less safely assume, is probably not too long after that point.

Mando shot Fennec Shand in episode 5, season 1; we see that she was picked up and repaired by Fett almost immediately afterwards.

Prior to that, we see Fett escaping the Sarlaac presumably a short time after the sail-barge was wrecked as he emerges to Jawas looting the wreckage. The Tuskens pick him up shortly after that.

The next indication of the passage of time is Fett going to Mos Espa and seeing the stormtrooper helmets on sticks, and the Tusken clan gets murdered when he returns. This is seemingly just after he stops the Pyke train and informs them that they're going to pay the Tuskens tribute.

And then he's staking out Jabba's palace, sees the flares from Mando attacking Shand, and gets there in time to rescue Shand...

So how long was he with the Tuskens exactly? Five years? Because it really doesn't feel like he was with them for five years. Or was he staking out Jabba's palace for years? The passage of time here is absolutely unclear.
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Boba does refer to "all those years ago" in regards to the Tuskens taking him in at one point. I do believe there are some timeskips within the flashback sequences.
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Broomstick wrote: 2022-01-24 05:32am Boba does refer to "all those years ago" in regards to the Tuskens taking him in at one point. I do believe there are some timeskips within the flashback sequences.
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How the F are you supposed to bring a bounty in with a fighter, no cryo chamber, no cargo space.

This is the best episode of the Book of Boba Fett so far, mostly because it's actually a surprise episode of the Mandalorian and presumably had different people at the wheel. I just hope the ineptitude of the BoBF crew doesn't bleed into Mando.
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Ep5
Wow….Is this the first time we see a ring world (whatever canon) in Star Wars?
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WAS that a ring world? It was certainly ring shaped but there didn't seem to be a star at the centre, and with the (relatively small, even by modern standards) ships docked to it it didn't look BIG enough for one.

Re no room for bounties-cold bounties could work the empty droid socket could be converted into some minimal cargo space but overall suboptimal vehicle for a bounty hunter. But then, the N-1 wasn't Mando's idea, he was initially less than thrilled with the ship. And taking her for a spin when half the hull plating is still missing?
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Never thought I'd see a Naboo starfighter hot-rodded like a rebel Y-wing.

I think the ring world was just a space station.

I got my hopes up that we may have seen the last of Amy Sedaris when that creature grabbed her leg. Too bad Mando got there in time to save her.
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GuppyShark wrote: 2022-01-26 04:08am How the F are you supposed to bring a bounty in with a fighter, no cryo chamber, no cargo space.

This is the best episode of the Book of Boba Fett so far, mostly because it's actually a surprise episode of the Mandalorian and presumably had different people at the wheel. I just hope the ineptitude of the BoBF crew doesn't bleed into Mando.
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Maybe Djarin can attach a trailer to it? Given he could live in the last ship, without fear of people seeing him sans helmet, a starfighter might be a short term solution until he gets the space Winnebago back.

Also, yet another fun episode.
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I imagine it beats having to travel commercially.

It wouldn't surprise me if Fett winds up dead at the end of this series and Djarin inherits the Slave One.
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Batman wrote: 2022-01-26 09:01pm WAS that a ring world? It was certainly ring shaped but there didn't seem to be a star at the centre, and with the (relatively small, even by modern standards) ships docked to it it didn't look BIG enough for one.
I'd call it a ring world, even if it's "just" a very large space station. It's a small ringworld, but seems to have the essential elements. I thought the artificial night/day was a good touch.
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I just popped the episode on again, and the ring is certainly around something quite bright, while also being quite small. Maybe it's a small artificial star for some reason?
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Should be within Wars' technological capabilities. As for why a small artificial one, real stars are hardly what I'd call easy to move (not even in Wars) and may be inconveniently located for your purposes. Also a 'real' ringworld is a rather major undertaking and may be too big for ones budget or purposes (not everybody has pockets as deep as the empire).
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