Re: Let's Play "Rule The Waves" w/ Steve's Custom Country "Cascadia"
Posted: 2017-03-05 05:31pm
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I would assume that France would either have enacted serious pressure upon Germany to get Alsace-Lorraine (at least the majority french-speaking parts) back or made war upon them at some time.Raesene wrote:If Cascadia can afford a Nimitz-class equivalent it has to be a well-off country
So what happened ? I assume a WW2-like global war, Germany and Japan against the others after the classic breakup of the Danube Monarchy, with parts acquired by Germany and Poland and the Rest balkanized.
Yes. Germany and Japan, at the least, form the Axis. Italy might have still become a fascist state, but much later than historical. I figured that between the stresses of the Great Depression and Franz Ferdinand fighting his own monarchist supporters to get his son on the throne, Danubia splits apart. Although it's possible that what we get is an Austria under Otto and Maximilian hailed as ruler in Croatia or Bohemia/Czechoslovakia. Kiev and the Ukrainian provinces probably get eaten by the USSR and Poland, which also asserts control of the historic Polish frontier on the Carpathians.Raesene wrote:If Cascadia can afford a Nimitz-class equivalent it has to be a well-off country
So what happened ? I assume a WW2-like global war, Germany and Japan against the others after the classic breakup of the Danube Monarchy, with parts acquired by Germany and Poland and the Rest balkanized.
Thank you for the praise, regardless of the RNG constantly setting me up to fight Germany. It could have gone other ways, I swear! I mean, I once had a test game as Cascadia where I fought only France... four times, but the RNG and luck kept making Germany the opponent. Honestly, I suspect I'd have had more big naval fights if it hadn't been Germany so often, the Germans are set up with the Cautious trait for AI control and don't commit to battle as often.Thanas wrote:
I would assume that France would either have enacted serious pressure upon Germany to get Alsace-Lorraine (at least the majority french-speaking parts) back or made war upon them at some time.
But yes, overall an excellent LP.
Eh tbh I don't mind, having crushed the USA multiple times in LPs before.Thank you for the praise, regardless of the RNG constantly setting me up to fight Germany. It could have gone other ways, I swear! I mean, I once had a test game as Cascadia where I fought only France... four times, but the RNG and luck kept making Germany the opponent. Honestly, I suspect I'd have had more big naval fights if it hadn't been Germany so often, the Germans are set up with the Cautious trait for AI control and don't commit to battle as often.
My thought was that it was the German Civil War at the end of the 1920s time period that clinched the Nazi rise. The Communists lose a great deal of popularity over the peace they signed and the junkers also suffer as a result - the Nazis end up playing the balance in the early 30s as their popularity in the vote rises, allowing them to take power by playing the factions.Thanas wrote:It makes little sense to for Germany to go Nazi in this timeline though, seeing as the Junkers more or less loathed them and the communists seem rather more popular than they were in OTL.
I was following your EUIV and Victoria LPs, so I know.Thanas wrote:Eh tbh I don't mind, having crushed the USA multiple times in LPs before.Thank you for the praise, regardless of the RNG constantly setting me up to fight Germany. It could have gone other ways, I swear! I mean, I once had a test game as Cascadia where I fought only France... four times, but the RNG and luck kept making Germany the opponent. Honestly, I suspect I'd have had more big naval fights if it hadn't been Germany so often, the Germans are set up with the Cautious trait for AI control and don't commit to battle as often.
Steve wrote:If I hadn't had that late war with Germany, the East Prussian revolt event, and the Communist takeover of Germany (as made clear by the new title of "General Secretary" for Germany's leader) and the Communists making that punitive peace deal, I think I would've ended up not having Hitler rise to power, because as you say, it doesn't make sense. But with a Communist Party discredited for an unpopular peace imposed by a bullying country and the junkers looking like twits for letting that happen, the Nazis presenting themselves as another alternative to a faltering Republic makes more sense to me.
He becomes Emperor of the Cascadian Imperial Dictatorship and has a million worlds each in a million universes to command.Eternal_Freedom wrote:Since you're taking questions, what happens to my guy?
I figure Wallace remains Chief of Naval Operations for much of the decade before retiring due to health and age, although it's not a happy time for him. After the start of the Great Depression, the new elections bring in a Democrat-Socialist coalition government in 1930 that vigorously slashes military spending. Most of the fleet is forced into inactive reserve or outright mothballed status. The Port Arthur Treaty with Japan effectively gives the Japanese control over the Liaotung Peninsula and further cuts Cascadian military presence in East Asia. He'll spend his time in office fighting with the Government to keep at least some military force viable, and it probably wears him out.Eternal_Freedom wrote:Since you're taking questions, what happens to my guy?
Hitler didn't outright "revolt" until after the Communist takeover and the humiliating peace treaty that the KDP signed, and he did so as part of a larger right-wing anti-Communist coalition. I figured this would keep the stigma off, unlike the junker group and the KDP. As for how he gets into power I imagined it would be because, like IRL, the conservatives and other non-junker forces hostile to the Left figure they can manage him.Thanas wrote:Pretty much disagree with that as the Nazis revolted just as much as the Junkers, so not much to go for them either. I think it far more likely the monarchy would be restored instead.
But hey it is your story.
I think I'd take the second option, rather than standing for Parliament since a) I hate politics and b) I think it would fit Adm. Garrett's dictum that the Navy should be apolitical. And I get me a big damn boat too, sweetSteve wrote:I figure Wallace remains Chief of Naval Operations for much of the decade before retiring due to health and age, although it's not a happy time for him. After the start of the Great Depression, the new elections bring in a Democrat-Socialist coalition government in 1930 that vigorously slashes military spending. Most of the fleet is forced into inactive reserve or outright mothballed status. The Port Arthur Treaty with Japan effectively gives the Japanese control over the Liaotung Peninsula and further cuts Cascadian military presence in East Asia. He'll spend his time in office fighting with the Government to keep at least some military force viable, and it probably wears him out.Eternal_Freedom wrote:Since you're taking questions, what happens to my guy?
You can decide if Wallace would get fed up enough to resign by 1938; if so, he might have stood for an election as a Liberal or a Hawk Democrat during the 1938 election, which smashed the Democrat-Socialist Government and brought in a Liberal-Conservative one that rearmed in time for the war with Japan. If so, I can see him being named Naval Secretary in the new Government and serving in that post for the Pacific War. Alternatively, the wartime President elected in 1940 (I haven't named him) may have brought him out of retirement to fill a role similar to the one historically held by FADM William Leahy (who served as Roosevelt's military Chief of Staff).
And sarcasm aside, I too imagine the second big CVN is named the Phillip Wallace.
As for how long he lives... I imagine he passes away by the late 40s. He made Captain in the mid 00s, so he was likely born sometime in the 1860s.