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Sure, no problem, Florida could change the term limit or eliminate it entirely.
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Solauren wrote: 2023-05-21 05:57pm DeSantis doesn't seem to understand that people want jobs and the freedom of speech.

Therefore, picking a fight with his States largest Employer, for Saying what they want, and affecting Jobs (and costing Jobs), makes him an undesirable candidate.

After all, he now has a record of picking fights with major employers, and causing them to change plans and cost jobs. All the US would need is him becoming President, and then picking fights with Walmart, Amazon, Apple, IBM, Microsoft, and a few of the other major employers, and then they go 'fuck it, we're moving operations to Canada' (with Walmart closing on the way out).

That would kill the United States economy, all for one mans ego.
Do people (ie the average citizen) actually recognise this though or are they happy to back the politician that's 'sticking it to the corporate man' without realising that for once the corporation is actually kinda somewhat in a round-a-bout way for the people.
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Broomstick wrote: 2023-05-22 08:55am Sure, no problem, Florida could change the term limit or eliminate it entirely.
Yeah. That's what I was asking -- how hard would it be to change the law.
Since the GOP have a lock in their Legislature it's just a matter of timing, as I'm sure DeSantis is more concerned about Presidential Hopes than staying another year as Gov.
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The_Saint wrote: 2023-05-23 02:05am
Solauren wrote: 2023-05-21 05:57pm DeSantis doesn't seem to understand that people want jobs and the freedom of speech.

Therefore, picking a fight with his States largest Employer, for Saying what they want, and affecting Jobs (and costing Jobs), makes him an undesirable candidate.

After all, he now has a record of picking fights with major employers, and causing them to change plans and cost jobs. All the US would need is him becoming President, and then picking fights with Walmart, Amazon, Apple, IBM, Microsoft, and a few of the other major employers, and then they go 'fuck it, we're moving operations to Canada' (with Walmart closing on the way out).

That would kill the United States economy, all for one mans ego.
Do people (ie the average citizen) actually recognise this though or are they happy to back the politician that's 'sticking it to the corporate man' without realising that for once the corporation is actually kinda somewhat in a round-a-bout way for the people.
First -- it will depend on which News Media they listen too. If it's Faux News, they have no idea what's going on, because I'm sure the loss of jobs is being spread all over Orlando.
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The_Saint wrote: 2023-05-23 02:05am Do people (ie the average citizen) actually recognise this though or are they happy to back the politician that's 'sticking it to the corporate man' without realising that for once the corporation is actually kinda somewhat in a round-a-bout way for the people.
For the average American I'd say probably the latter.
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Disney Says DeSantis’ Oversight District Is “Dodging Obligations” to Produce Discovery, Asks Judge for Continuance
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Disney has filed a motion for continuance in the state-level trial where it is a defendant against Florida Governor Ron DeSantis’ Central Florida Tourism Oversight District. Disney is asking the judge for a continuance of 75 days for the summary judgment hearing that is currently scheduled for December 12, 2023.

At a high level, Disney says that the District “has been dodging its obligations to produce concededly relevant discovery while rushing consideration of its motion for summary judgment”. Disney accuses the District of employing a “leapfrog-to-judgment” strategy, saying that the District has been operating in a rushed manner. Before Disney’s Motion to Dismiss had been decided, the District’s counsel said that they had completed a final draft of the Motion for Summary Judgment that would “take care of this case as a matter of law”.

Disney says that they want to resolve the case expeditiously, but that “speed cannot come at the cost of developing relevant facts”. Disney says that the District cannot complain about the pace of the case when the District “failed to produce a single document for nearly two months” after Disney’s request. Disney says that the District “broke commitments to agreed-upon deadlines”, and they say that the District “remains in possession for discovery that Disney needs to develop its summary judgment opposition”.

In terms of a timeline of events, Disney says that it served the District with discovery on August 29, 2023. In the discovery request, Disney says that they have five interrogatories, including the identification of “affected property owners” that the District claims were not properly served information about the Agreements at issue. Disney has an additional 58 document requests that seek information such as attendees of the two public District meetings at which the Contracts were discussed; communications with the City of Bay Lake and Lake Buena Vista; and documents concerning the preparation, consideration, and adoption of the Contracts.

The District served responses and objections to Disney’s request on September 28th – the last day they were permitted to do so. Disney says that the District produced no documents. By September 30th, Disney asked the District to provide deposition dates for four employees that the District used declarations from in support of their summary judgment motion.

Disney and the District met on October 3rd and agreed that documents must be produced by the District with adequate time for Disney to review them before disposing witnesses. The parties also agreed that the depositions must occur significantly before the December 12th summary judgment hearing. On an October 9th follow-up call, the District “promised to provide” a date for substantial completion of the District’s production of documents. That information was promised by October 12th. The date came and passed, and Disney says it followed up via email on October 13th and 16th. Disney says the “District remained silent”. The District has still not produced the promised information.

Disney emailed the District, noting that the timeline was already tight for a December 12th hearing if the District would’ve followed through on its promises. Disney said that with the District’s delays and silence, there is “no realistic possibility” that the timeline will work for a December 12th hearing. The District ignored that email too.

Disney says that the District finally produced 1,209 documents in an after-hours email, and just four business days before the deposition of former District Administrator John Classe. Disney quickly reviewed the metadata of the documents and determined that the 1,209 documents came from 8 custodians, none of whom had been named in the District’s summary judgment. Put differently, Disney has not received a single document from an employee that the District produced as a declarant or a single document from any of the District’s Board Members. Of the 1,209 documents produced, former Administrator Classe accounted for 848 documents that amount to more than 11,500 pages.

Disney says that all of the District’s arguments for summary judgment are fact-bound, and that discovery will, once complete, demonstrate the existence of factual disputes inherent to the District’s claims. Disney says that the current hearing date deprives Disney of the time needed to compile a record in support of its opposition.

Disney says that expects pending discovery to produce evidence of facts material to each of the five counts on which the District moves for summary judgment as well as relevant evidence supportive of Disney’s affirmative defenses.
Ignoring discovery obligations will not go well for DeSantis' board here.
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The question is, WHY would they do that?

The Oversight District has to know pulling shit like that in legal proceedings will backfire.

So, are they doing it to just be dicks, or are they trying to cause themselves, and therefore Desantis, problems?
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It's so when they comment on or approve of something, I know what pages to block/what not to vote for.
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Solauren wrote: 2023-10-30 08:30am The question is, WHY would they do that?

The Oversight District has to know pulling shit like that in legal proceedings will backfire.

So, are they doing it to just be dicks, or are they trying to cause themselves, and therefore Desantis, problems?
The Desantis board is made up of a lot of big fish in small pounds. They are just dicks who are used to getting away with everything.

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Solauren wrote: 2023-10-30 08:30am The question is, WHY would they do that?

The Oversight District has to know pulling shit like that in legal proceedings will backfire.

So, are they doing it to just be dicks, or are they trying to cause themselves, and therefore Desantis, problems?
The only way this is a smart move is if there is something in those documents that will be more harmful to them if a court sees it than however the court responds to their noncompliance. Which probably means criminal activity.

Which means they are still idiots for writing it down.
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Or, they have nothing to hide of themselves, but it's revealed something that DISNEY can use against them.
And the delay is for them to try to come up with offsets/defenses against that.
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Solauren wrote: 2023-10-30 10:36am Or, they have nothing to hide of themselves, but it's revealed something that DISNEY can use against them.
And the delay is for them to try to come up with offsets/defenses against that.
Maybe. But a common penalty for not handing over discovery like this is an adverse inference. An instruction from the judge to the jury to assume something bad about whatever they are refusing to hand over.
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If they had any brains they'd see what happened to Trump & Jones and hand over everything regardless of what it says... unless they believe the Judge is a right wing hack.
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Lost Soal wrote: 2023-10-30 12:42pm If they had any brains they'd see what happened to Trump & Jones and hand over everything regardless of what it says... unless they believe the Judge is a right wing hack.
Bold of you to expect conservatives of any stripe are capable of actual intelligence. They're not there to do their jobs, they're in place to do the bidding of defascist and his horde of howling monkey's.

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Highlord Laan wrote: 2023-11-16 01:51pm They're not there to do their jobs
What exactly are 'their jobs' here?
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Ralin wrote: 2023-11-16 05:14pm
Highlord Laan wrote: 2023-11-16 01:51pm They're not there to do their jobs
What exactly are 'their jobs' here?
Fuck over Disney?
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LadyTevar wrote: 2023-11-16 08:54pm
Ralin wrote: 2023-11-16 05:14pm
Highlord Laan wrote: 2023-11-16 01:51pm They're not there to do their jobs
What exactly are 'their jobs' here?
Fuck over Disney?
Legally, they're supposed to administrate and improve the area, just like the prior board. Politically (AKA: "the quiet part",) they're supposed to suckle defascists asshole to better own duh libs.

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