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Re: Harvey Weinstein: fall of Hollywood player they once called ‘God’

Post by Crossroads Inc. » 2017-11-30 02:49pm

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Oh no not Garrison Keilor too
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Re: Harvey Weinstein: fall of Hollywood player they once called ‘God’

Post by EnterpriseSovereign » 2017-12-04 04:46pm

Brett Ratner is in the firing line too- rumours have it Gadot won't appear as WW any more if he's involved.
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Re: Harvey Weinstein: fall of Hollywood player they once called ‘God’

Post by Simon_Jester » 2017-12-05 04:54pm

Good on her for issuing the ultimatum.
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Re: Harvey Weinstein: fall of Hollywood player they once called ‘God’

Post by EnterpriseSovereign » 2018-05-25 01:33pm

Harvey Weinstein has appeared in court charged with rape and sexual abuse - after the disgraced movie mogul handed himself into police.
The former film producer arrived at a police station in New York on Friday, where he was charged, handcuffed and taken to court.
Having been granted $1 million bail, the 66-year-old's lawyer indicated that Weinstein would be pleading not guilty to the charges, which relate to two complainants.
His lawyer described the charges as "constitutionally flawed", adding that Weinstein "vehemently denied" the allegations.
Weinstein's court appearance comes in the wake of assault allegations from several women.
But the charges of rape, criminal sex act, sex abuse and sexual misconduct relate to incidents involving just two women.
A throng of photographers awaited Weinstein, dressed in a black blazer and blue jumper, throughout the day.
Harvey Weinstein appears in court on rape and sex assault charges.
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Re: Harvey Weinstein: fall of Hollywood player they once called ‘God’

Post by The Romulan Republic » 2018-05-25 04:13pm

Excellent. Its nice to see that the rich and powerful aren't always immune to justice.
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Re: Harvey Weinstein: fall of Hollywood player they once called ‘God’

Post by EnterpriseSovereign » 2020-02-24 05:12pm

Guilty.
Harvey Weinstein has been found guilty of rape in the third degree but cleared of the most serious charges of predatory sexual assault at his trial in New York.

The allegations sparked the MeToo movement against sexual harassment and abuse and dozens of women made accusations against the disgraced film mogul.

The 67-year-old was found guilty of a criminal sex act for assaulting production assistant Mimi Haleyi at his apartment in 2006 and third-degree rape of a woman in 2013.

Following the verdicts, New York County District Attorney, Cyrus Vance, described Weinstein as a "vicious, serial sexual predator".

The trial was the first criminal case to arise from a barrage of allegations against Weinstein from more than 90 women, including actresses Gwyneth Paltrow, Salma Hayek and Uma Thurman.

The jury of seven men and five women took five days to find him guilty.

The case against the once-feared producer was essentially built on three allegations: that he raped an aspiring actress in a New York City hotel room in 2013, that he forcibly performed oral sex on another woman at his apartment in 2006, and that he raped and forcibly performed oral sex on another actress in her apartment in the mid-1990s.
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Re: Harvey Weinstein: fall of Hollywood player they once called ‘God’

Post by Ziggy Stardust » 2020-02-24 06:59pm

but cleared of the most serious charges of predatory sexual assault at his trial in New York.
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Re: Harvey Weinstein: fall of Hollywood player they once called ‘God’

Post by mr friendly guy » 2020-02-24 07:03pm

What is difference between rape of the third degree, as opposed to rape of the first or second degrees?
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Re: Harvey Weinstein: fall of Hollywood player they once called ‘God’

Post by Coop D'etat » 2020-02-24 07:48pm

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What is difference between rape of the third degree, as opposed to rape of the first or second degrees?
First is distinguished from third in New York law by the element of "forcible compulsion." Second degree is distinguished from third degree by lack of capacity to consent for a variety of reasons.

Essentially the verdict states that the prosecution proved beyond reasonable doubt that there was a rape but they hadn't made the case for the level of force to find first degree rape. This kind of compromise difference splitting is very common by juries in sexual assault cases and is in some degree to be expected even if it suggests contorted logic to get there. Its not that hard for a prosecutor to make back some of the ground on sentencing (sentencing isn't limited to the facts of case established by the verdict) though, so getting any kind of conviction is typically a win on the balance for them.

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Re: Harvey Weinstein: fall of Hollywood player they once called ‘God’

Post by The Romulan Republic » 2020-02-24 09:31pm

Surprised but glad he was convicted, sad it wasn't on all counts, hope they give him the harshest sentence they can and he doesn't worm his way off the hook on appeal.
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Post by LadyTevar » 2020-02-24 11:22pm

Wasn't there something about California now filing charges against him?
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Re: Harvey Weinstein: fall of Hollywood player they once called ‘God’

Post by Solauren » 2020-02-25 09:55pm

I believe so. I think there are alot more pending charges against him, as everyone was waiting to see If/How strongly he was nailed by New York State. If he'd been convicted on all counts, the odds of him ever being released were pretty low (he's 67 years old). That would make prosecuting him "not cost-effective". Shitty, I know, but you have to pick your battles.

However, since he wasn't convicted on all counts, other districts may be filing charges, in hopes of keeping him behind bars for the rest of his natural life.
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Re: Harvey Weinstein: fall of Hollywood player they once called ‘God’

Post by LaCroix » 2020-02-26 07:50am

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What is difference between rape of the third degree, as opposed to rape of the first or second degrees?
1st = violent force
2nd = unable to resist (e.g too drunk/drugged)
3rd = extorted to comply
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Re: Harvey Weinstein: fall of Hollywood player they once called ‘God’

Post by Solauren » 2020-02-26 06:48pm

(Note: All legal terms in qoute marks)
Given who is 'alleging' Mr. Weinstein committed these acts (re: Actresses that could fall under his employ, or whos employment he could negatively impact), 3rd degree Sexual Assault would be the easiest to prove and argue for.

Violent force would be difficult to prove without medical examination very soon after the assault.
Unable to resist would also be difficult to prove without medical examination.

However 'Major producer, he told me either I blow him or my career would be garbage'. That doesn't need medical examination.
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Re: Harvey Weinstein: fall of Hollywood player they once called ‘God’

Post by EnterpriseSovereign » 2020-03-11 02:52pm

He's been sentenced to 23 years in prison.

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He was found guilty in a trial in New York last month, a dramatic fall from grace for one of Hollywood's most powerful figures.

The 67-year-old appeared in court on Wednesday in a wheelchair.

His lawyers had appealed for leniency, saying even the minimum sentence of five years could be a "life sentence".

But prosecutors argued Weinstein should be given the maximum possible sentence given his "lifetime of abuse" towards women and "lack of remorse" for his actions.

Weinstein addressed the court for the first time on Wednesday, saying he had "deep remorse" but described him and other men as "totally confused" by events in comments seen as critical to the #MeToo movement.
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Re: Harvey Weinstein: fall of Hollywood player they once called ‘God’

Post by bilateralrope » 2020-03-11 05:19pm

Given his apparent health problems, how long is he likely to survive in prison ?

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Post by Solauren » 2020-03-11 05:37pm

Probably not long.

Also, given what he did....
There are probably inmates in there that have a fascination with one or more of the women that accused him, and may decide to 'Avenge' her.

I'd be surprised if he makes the 5 years his lawyers requested.
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Post by Coop D'etat » 2020-03-11 06:43pm

I believe I mentioned above that the prosecution would make up the lost ground on not getting all the charges proven on sentencing.

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Re: Harvey Weinstein: fall of Hollywood player they once called ‘God’

Post by Elfdart » 2020-03-11 06:57pm

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Given his apparent health problems, how long is he likely to survive in prison ?
Depends on whether they put him in Jeffrey Epstein's cell -you know, the one with the "defective surveillance"?
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Re: Harvey Weinstein: fall of Hollywood player they once called ‘God’

Post by mr friendly guy » 2020-03-22 08:29pm

And "God" has apparently tested positive for the coronavirus.
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Re: Harvey Weinstein: fall of Hollywood player they once called ‘God’

Post by The Romulan Republic » 2020-03-23 06:29am

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2020-03-22 08:29pm
And "God" has apparently tested positive for the coronavirus.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/jailed-ha ... rus-report
Well, given his age and ill-health, his odds of serving a lengthy prison sentence aren't terribly great.

On a darker note, this thing is going to go through prison populations like wildfire.
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Re: Harvey Weinstein: fall of Hollywood player they once called ‘God’

Post by Lord Revan » 2020-03-24 09:20pm

The Romulan Republic wrote:
2020-03-23 06:29am
mr friendly guy wrote:
2020-03-22 08:29pm
And "God" has apparently tested positive for the coronavirus.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/jailed-ha ... rus-report
Well, given his age and ill-health, his odds of serving a lengthy prison sentence aren't terribly great.

On a darker note, this thing is going to go through prison populations like wildfire.
Tough from what I've heard dying from the Corona virus isn't gonna be a mercy either.

And honestly I'm not all surpriced that corona virus is spreading thru the US prison population like wildfire, I mean you got massive amounts of people in confined spaces who are essentially robed of their human rights and thus probably aren't even on the list of "people to be treated/isolated in case of a corona infection"
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Post by Solauren » 2020-03-24 10:00pm

I can imagine how quickly the Corona virus would take down a prison population to. It's not like they have high care bed capacity.
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Re: Harvey Weinstein: fall of Hollywood player they once called ‘God’

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I can imagine how quickly the Corona virus would take down a prison population to. It's not like they have high care bed capacity.
Yeah.

The worst is going to be Trump's immigrant concentration camps. Dozens of people packed into a tiny cage together, with people already dying from harsh conditions and lack of medical care? You think Trump, who won't even act to help US cities, is going to lift a finger to help them? Thousands will die there. Which will be used as "proof" that migrants are bringing it over the border, so we have to lock them all up...

Which I would argue qualifies as a genocide. Remember that a lot of the victims of the Holocaust didn't die in gas chambers- they died of overwork, exposure, malnutrition, and yes, diseases (including Anne Frank). We still count those deaths as part of the genocide, because the Nazis created those conditions deliberately. Likewise, we count the famine deaths in the Ukraine against Stalin. And we'll have to count the coronavirus deaths, especially in prisons and concentration camps, against the Trump Regime.
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