Former British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, the “Iron Lady” who led a conservative resurgence in her home country and forged a legendary partnership with President Ronald Reagan, died Monday following a stroke, her spokesman said. She was 87.
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I wonder if the general reaction will stick to 'don't speak ill of the dead'. I know Thatcher is thought very poorly of in some circles. I don't know how modern conservatives feel about her now. OBviously she was popular at the time, I didn't know she was the longest serving post-war PM.
Almost certainly Siege. I personally don't believe in not speaking ill of the dead, particularly since I was more than happy to speak ill of her while she was alive too...dropping dead doesn't change that.
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Crazedwraith wrote:I wonder if the general reaction will stick to 'don't speak ill of the dead'. I know Thatcher is thought very poorly of in some circles. I don't know how modern conservatives feel about her now. OBviously she was popular at the time, I didn't know she was the longest serving post-war PM.
That film probably helped her image a bit, so that worked out for her.
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She was a titan in politics, her political acumen only matched by her xenophobia and racism.
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Lady Reagan was a lousy PM and she's dead. And listening to Morning Joke and Chris Matthews talk about what a great leader she was and how STRONG she was makes me wish I was too.
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Nah. in fairness she died years ago. Today was just an old lady with dementia.
Seen on twitter re her state burial:
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Luckily that sort of thing only appears once on my fb wall, and equal number of times as some has said 'Thatcher? I barely remember John Major. I have no opinion of Thatcher. I'll wait till Blair dies before caring about dead PMs"
There are some oh-so-heartwarming tributes from American politicians to Margaret Thatcher on Twitter. My favorite comes from Rep. Steve Stockman, R-Texas:
"The best way to honor Baroness Thatcher is to crush liberalism and sweep it into the dustbin of history. What are you doing this morning?"
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dragon wrote:did she accomplish anything good while in power?
She did win that war against Argentina and got the south of England more financial power, at the same time pushing policies that enhanced British profit from the EU. Whether those were good moves largely depend on your ideology.
I suspect that in a few decades there will be a more nuanced view of her, right now she is very polarizing.
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Thanas wrote:She did win that war against Argentina and got the south of England more financial power, at the same time pushing policies that enhanced British profit from the EU.
And dealt with the IRA and the trade unions. She was indisputably the greatest post-war PM the UK's had.
I remember how 2 years ago I read a book that was basically conservative propaganda. Even that book admitted that her handling of the strike was pretty bad. I mean, congrats on being the very first female prime minister, but
Also, how was she a xenophobe? she just struck me as very conservative.
Darth Yan wrote:Also, how was she a xenophobe? she just struck me as very conservative.
She literally claimed that Germany would immediately become Nazi again if allowed to reunify.
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I was only 5 when she left office so she was before my time, but the one thing that comes to mind when I think of what she did was her handling of the Falklands.
She might have been a good PM in some regards but I'm sure you won't find many in Scotland and the north of England who will be mourning her passing after what she did.
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For beating the coal miners' union in the 1980s? Those mines were fucked anyways - they would have closed as soon as the tap of public money was cut off (which is what happened once the industry was re-privatized in the early 1990s).
Honestly, if it hadn't been Thatcher, it would have been someone similar in terms of economic and labor policy after the Winter of Discontent. She did do some good in that area, even if she had a ton of shitty policies elsewhere.
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