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SpacedTeddyBear wrote:I guess this is what happens when you finally realize that you can't solve the problems of reality by simply throwing fits and money at it.
I'm really wondering what are those problems of reality she's supposed to be facing. It's not like she's a single mother struggling to pay the bills, who just snaps because of the pressure.... Or am I missing something?



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Hooray for rich popular people ending up in ruins. It makes me feel better.

But if she dies, she'll be canonized as a Living Saint, so no, she shouldn't die.
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Why would anyone think she'll end up martyred. If she was remembered as anything other than a tragic waste of space after whats happened in the past year i'd be shocked. Her "music" doesn't mean shit to anyone like other artists who've died, it's all bubblegummy fluff garbage with some other crap mixed in.

Say what you want about Lennon, Cobain, and Tupac and no matter what you thought about their music there were millions of people who actually felt that their music meant something to them, but with Britney's CD's they were basically bought as gifts for children who quickly shelved them once the pop fad died down.
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The word "martyr" is totally wrong; in order to be martyred, you have to die for a cause. "I like to get drunk and party while leaving my kids with a nanny whose interview consisted of stupid questions like 'what music do you listen to'" is not a real cause.

However, I could see a media frenzy if she died, in much the same way that Anna Nicole Smith sparked one when she died.
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And I'm sure no one would rather have THAT. It'd be for the best if she stays in that psychiatric ward...forever.
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Zablorg wrote:Maybe you should have to earn a licence to have children. It shouldn't be a terribly difficult thing to pass either, so if you don't earn it you damn well know you deserve it.
Yeah, forced abortions for all!
How about "forced sterilization after you make an unlicensed baby"? That would serve as a penalty for breaking the law which, unlike a fine, wouldn't harm the baby. It would also prevent subsequent babies from being born, thus giving most of the benefit of absolute parental licensure without being as draconian as a forced abortion scheme.
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sketerpot wrote:How about "forced sterilization after you make an unlicensed baby"?
How about you stop talking about giving the government more power like it's a good thing?
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alexholker wrote:
sketerpot wrote:How about "forced sterilization after you make an unlicensed baby"?
How about you stop talking about giving the government more power like it's a good thing?
How about we get rid of mandatory driver's licenses, and you repeat that remark. How well would it fly in that discussion?

More government power is not inherently good or bad. You have to give reasons why it's good or bad for specific issues. In this case, the benefit of parental licensure is that it would cut down on children being born to parents who are horrifically unfit to raise them. Your turn: what do you have against parental licensure that isn't some generic "government power is evil" comment?
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sketerpot wrote:Your turn: what do you have against parental licensure that isn't some generic "government power is evil" comment?
*cough*
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I fucking agree. She needs to have her vagina glued shut. Why should she be allowed to crap out more kids and fuck them up?
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sketerpot wrote:How about we get rid of mandatory driver's licenses, and you repeat that remark. How well would it fly in that discussion?
1. A reasonable but untrained person cannot be expected to reliably operate a motor vehicle on a public road without significant risk of harm to others. Training received and tested in preparation for obtaining a driver's licence is essential to that safe operation. By comparison, a reasonable but untrained person who has a child does not pose a significant risk to her child or anyone else.

2. I haven't heard anyone claiming that people should be forced to undergo surgery to make them unable to drive a car, have you?
More government power is not inherently good or bad. You have to give reasons why it's good or bad for specific issues. In this case, the benefit of parental licensure is that it would cut down on children being born to parents who are horrifically unfit to raise them. Your turn: what do you have against parental licensure that isn't some generic "government power is evil" comment?
You are suggesting that the government should be given the power to force a woman to undergo destructive surgery, against her will, for the crime of having a child without first receiving government permission.

Also, your suggested law would increase the risk of harm to the child of an unlicenced mother. If the government is threatening to forcibly sterilise her if she reveals she had a child without a licence, if something does go wrong, she will be more likely to delay seeking assistance.

A related question:
If a victimless crime like having a child without seeking government approval is to be punished by inflicting injury on the mother, do you also support such tactics for crimes which do harm others?
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alexholker wrote:I haven't heard anyone claiming that people should be forced to undergo surgery to make them unable to drive a car, have you?
There are certain drivers for whom I think it would be a damned good idea.
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alexholker wrote:2. I haven't heard anyone claiming that people should be forced to undergo surgery to make them unable to drive a car, have you?
I'm on record as stating that certain drivers should be shot and have their organs harvested, which qualifies as a surgery which makes them unable to drive a car.
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Okay, scratch that point...
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I think Spears is having a genuine mental meltdown. I'm glad the court took custody of her children away. Federline isn't exactly a wonderful person, either, but right now he seems to have his shit much more together than she does.

In some ways, I think her being diagnosed with a genuine mental disorder and receiving proper treatment for it would be best long-term for her and the kids. Unfortunately, the paparazzi would prefer an unhappy ending because it sells better.

If we can't help her (and I suspect that may be the case) then I hope someone helps the kids.
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Darth Wong wrote:
alexholker wrote:I haven't heard anyone claiming that people should be forced to undergo surgery to make them unable to drive a car, have you?
There are certain drivers for whom I think it would be a damned good idea.
The paramilitaries in Belfast do exactly that. It's hard for a joy rider to drive after being shot in both elbows.
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Broomstick wrote:I think Spears is having a genuine mental meltdown. I'm glad the court took custody of her children away. Federline isn't exactly a wonderful person, either, but right now he seems to have his shit much more together than she does.

In some ways, I think her being diagnosed with a genuine mental disorder and receiving proper treatment for it would be best long-term for her and the kids. Unfortunately, the paparazzi would prefer an unhappy ending because it sells better.

If we can't help her (and I suspect that may be the case) then I hope someone helps the kids.
Didn't Dr. Phill show up at her hospital to 'help' her or something?
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Broomstick wrote:I think Spears is having a genuine mental meltdown. I'm glad the court took custody of her children away. Federline isn't exactly a wonderful person, either, but right now he seems to have his shit much more together than she does.

In some ways, I think her being diagnosed with a genuine mental disorder and receiving proper treatment for it would be best long-term for her and the kids. Unfortunately, the paparazzi would prefer an unhappy ending because it sells better.

If we can't help her (and I suspect that may be the case) then I hope someone helps the kids.
Didn't Dr. Phill show up at her hospital to 'help' her or something?
Yeah, and she told him to get the fuck out of her room. Yet more evidence that she isn't crazy. :lol:
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I heard her family asked Dr. Phil to help out... :roll: Very trailer-trash.

And he's decided NOT to do a show on Brittany - how generous of him. Also, maybe real mental illness won't make his sponsors happy.

And if she threw him out... well, there's hope for her yet.
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Broomstick wrote:I heard her family asked Dr. Phil to help out... :roll: Very trailer-trash.

And he's decided NOT to do a show on Brittany - how generous of him. Also, maybe real mental illness won't make his sponsors happy.

And if she threw him out... well, there's hope for her yet.
I saw the story, apparently he's not doing the show because the parents refused to appear on it.
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sketerpot wrote:How about "forced sterilization after you make an unlicensed baby"? That would serve as a penalty for breaking the law which, unlike a fine, wouldn't harm the baby. It would also prevent subsequent babies from being born, thus giving most of the benefit of absolute parental licensure without being as draconian as a forced abortion scheme.
The NAZIS performed forced sterilizations on people they considered subhuman. What you're proposing is dangerously close to what they did. After all, what if the government decides that race or sexual preference were factors determining whether or not someone is qualified to be a parent?
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