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smoking vaccine
So my sister-in-law was mentioning how she heard about a smoking vaccine and I was surprised that such a thing could be possible.
so I looked and hey what do ya know, it is being developed.
So would you give yourself (if you smoked and wanted to quit but had prbelems doing so)this vaccine? or your child?
so I looked and hey what do ya know, it is being developed.
So would you give yourself (if you smoked and wanted to quit but had prbelems doing so)this vaccine? or your child?
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How the hell would a smoking vaccine work? Smoking is not a virus.
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WTF? Hows that going to work?
Is it more like that one chemical they give drunks that make them vomit if they drink booze? That would make more sense, rather than a vaccine.
Is it more like that one chemical they give drunks that make them vomit if they drink booze? That would make more sense, rather than a vaccine.
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*reads article* Have your anti bodies stop nicotine from entering your brain? Can that possible work?
I see only 40% quite with the drug and 31% quite with the placebo. Not good numbers, if you ask me. Could be some phycological crutch some are using to bolster their resolve to quite.
I see only 40% quite with the drug and 31% quite with the placebo. Not good numbers, if you ask me. Could be some phycological crutch some are using to bolster their resolve to quite.
They say, "the tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots." I suppose it never occurred to them that they are the tyrants, not the patriots. Those weapons are not being used to fight some kind of tyranny; they are bringing them to an event where people are getting together to talk. -Mike Wong
But as far as board culture in general, I do think that young male overaggression is a contributing factor to the general atmosphere of hostility. It's not SOS and the Mess throwing hand grenades all over the forum- Red
But as far as board culture in general, I do think that young male overaggression is a contributing factor to the general atmosphere of hostility. It's not SOS and the Mess throwing hand grenades all over the forum- Red
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The real test for something like this would be whether or not it prevents young people from becoming habitual smokers after trying a cigarette.
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While it isn't truly a vaccine, here is how it works according the the article.Darth Wong wrote:How the hell would a smoking vaccine work? Smoking is not a virus.
The Linked Article wrote: The vaccine is designed to induce the production of antibodies against nicotine to block the entry of the toxic substance to the brain. This should eliminate the addictive and satisfying effects of nicotine that make it difficult for smokers to quit and remain abstinent in the first months after quitting.
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Damnit I didn't need to post that, probably alreayd read the article anyways *bashes self on head*
But anyways, its as much of a vaccine as the Star Trek "radiation vaccine."
But anyways, its as much of a vaccine as the Star Trek "radiation vaccine."
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The P-tests probably show this as being not all that effective either, but vaccines can and are made to treat certain drugs like an antidote as it were. The advances recently in proteomics allows tailormade antibodies, or immunoglobulins, to be made that attack and opsonise specific molecules. The same technology is being experimented with nanoengineering to have antibodies that carry a small beta emitter and selectively kill cancerous cells.Knife wrote:*reads article* Have your anti bodies stop nicotine from entering your brain? Can that possible work?
I see only 40% quite with the drug and 31% quite with the placebo. Not good numbers, if you ask me. Could be some phycological crutch some are using to bolster their resolve to quite.
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They said they were making something like this for cocaine; that seems rather shortsided. Cocaine is a legitimately and currently used local anesthetic for ear, nose, and throat specialists, due to its unique anesthetic and vasoconstrictive properties.
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I dont know about smoking vaccines, but I do know about medical marijuana.
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I believe alternatives can be used such as atropine, but I'd have to look that up. The process of eliminating such an addiction via humoral immune defences would be the same for this nicotine vaccine, as to how effective it would be, we'd need extensive trials. I'm sure a big company like GSK could pull it off better.Illuminatus Primus wrote:They said they were making something like this for cocaine; that seems rather shortsided. Cocaine is a legitimately and currently used local anesthetic for ear, nose, and throat specialists, due to its unique anesthetic and vasoconstrictive properties.
Here's an interesting question.
How many people here would secretly inject or trick a friend or relative into taking this vacine if it were proven to work?
How many people here would secretly inject or trick a friend or relative into taking this vacine if it were proven to work?
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Not in the slightest. And I'm an ex smoker myself. If some one wants to volunteer for it, fine but tricking some one into a drug or vaccine is shitty.Alyeska wrote:Here's an interesting question.
How many people here would secretly inject or trick a friend or relative into taking this vacine if it were proven to work?
They say, "the tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots." I suppose it never occurred to them that they are the tyrants, not the patriots. Those weapons are not being used to fight some kind of tyranny; they are bringing them to an event where people are getting together to talk. -Mike Wong
But as far as board culture in general, I do think that young male overaggression is a contributing factor to the general atmosphere of hostility. It's not SOS and the Mess throwing hand grenades all over the forum- Red
But as far as board culture in general, I do think that young male overaggression is a contributing factor to the general atmosphere of hostility. It's not SOS and the Mess throwing hand grenades all over the forum- Red
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You should want to quite first. That's the trick, whether you use will power, patches or some drug/vaccine.Admiral Valdemar wrote:I know my mum sometimes has a fag now and then, which is still disgusting even. So I'd just tell her straight up what it was and see if she'd take it. She's done the patches before and they didn't work too well.
They say, "the tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots." I suppose it never occurred to them that they are the tyrants, not the patriots. Those weapons are not being used to fight some kind of tyranny; they are bringing them to an event where people are getting together to talk. -Mike Wong
But as far as board culture in general, I do think that young male overaggression is a contributing factor to the general atmosphere of hostility. It's not SOS and the Mess throwing hand grenades all over the forum- Red
But as far as board culture in general, I do think that young male overaggression is a contributing factor to the general atmosphere of hostility. It's not SOS and the Mess throwing hand grenades all over the forum- Red
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I've seen plenty with the patches and gum doing it half ass. Mom, dad, significant other want em to do it so they 'try' and fail. Clinic on the other hand.......Admiral Valdemar wrote:True, but I don't know anyone that really went into buying such patches or gum or going to clinics when they only saw it as a half-assed thing and didn't care for quitting.
Probably has more to do with money than anything. The patches and gum don't cost much less than the smokes themselves. Going to a clinic or the Betty Ford is pricey.
They say, "the tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots." I suppose it never occurred to them that they are the tyrants, not the patriots. Those weapons are not being used to fight some kind of tyranny; they are bringing them to an event where people are getting together to talk. -Mike Wong
But as far as board culture in general, I do think that young male overaggression is a contributing factor to the general atmosphere of hostility. It's not SOS and the Mess throwing hand grenades all over the forum- Red
But as far as board culture in general, I do think that young male overaggression is a contributing factor to the general atmosphere of hostility. It's not SOS and the Mess throwing hand grenades all over the forum- Red