Lord Wong as the producer of Enterprise

paladin · Post by **paladin** » 2002-10-20 05:36pm

B&B quit as the producers of Enterprise suddenly and name Lord Wong as the sole producer with full authority to make any changes he wants to Enterprise.

How much of an improvement does Lord Wong make?

Darth Yoshi · Post by **Darth Yoshi** » 2002-10-20 05:43pm

Lord Wong cancels the series, since it doesn't follow the continuity of every other ST series. Barring that, warp cores will no longer breach, the Enterprise will be a either a warship or a science vessel, and not both.

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-10-20 05:53pm

He Cancles the show
Best improvment ever

Ted C · Post by **Ted C** » 2002-10-20 06:13pm

Assuming he DOESN'T want to just cancel the show...

He hires science fiction writers to come up with stories instead of just any schmuck who comes along, and he appoints a continuity editor and a technology editor to make sure that they don't write anything stupid in the tech department. He then make an arbitrary rule against any more stories involving time travel. Damn! That means he has to retcon the first two season out of existence!

Grand Admiral Thrawn · Post by **Grand Admiral Thrawn** » 2002-10-20 07:23pm

The series is canceled. Poof.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2002-10-20 08:03pm

That depends. Am I under some sort of contract to keep it on the air? If so, I would prefer to reboot the series and start over from scratch. I would make the sets look like TOS. I would get rid of the Romulans, bring back the TOS-style Klingons, restore continuity, eliminate all technobabble, make the ship look like a proper period ship, etc. And I would dump the annoying Vulcan. I think we've all had more than enough of the "fish out of water" Trek cliche; surely they can find some other goddamned axe to grind.

And, oh yes ... bring back the miniskirts for the female crew

Post by **Kuja** » 2002-10-20 08:04pm

In other words, bring back REAL Star Trek?

THEHOOLIGANJEDI · Post by **THEHOOLIGANJEDI** » 2002-10-20 08:27pm

Darth Wong wrote:That depends. Am I under some sort of contract to keep it on the air? If so, I would prefer to reboot the series and start over from scratch. I would make the sets look like TOS. I would get rid of the Romulans, bring back the TOS-style Klingons, restore continuity, eliminate all technobabble, make the ship look like a proper period ship, etc. And I would dump the annoying Vulcan. I think we've all had more than enough of the "fish out of water" Trek cliche; surely they can find some other goddamned axe to grind.

And, oh yes ... bring back the miniskirts for the female crew

Hey what wrong with the ridged Klingons, they would have looked that way if NBC would ahve Given TOS a bigger budget. Everything else I agree.

Evil Jerk · Post by **Evil Jerk** » 2002-10-20 08:31pm

THEHOOLIGANJEDI wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:That depends. Am I under some sort of contract to keep it on the air? If so, I would prefer to reboot the series and start over from scratch. I would make the sets look like TOS. I would get rid of the Romulans, bring back the TOS-style Klingons, restore continuity, eliminate all technobabble, make the ship look like a proper period ship, etc. And I would dump the annoying Vulcan. I think we've all had more than enough of the "fish out of water" Trek cliche; surely they can find some other goddamned axe to grind.

And, oh yes ... bring back the miniskirts for the female crew
Hey what wrong with the ridged Klingons, they would have looked that way if NBC would ahve Given TOS a bigger budget. Everything else I agree.

I think they should be like in the movies, at least fix their damn teeth and let them act intelligent, cunning and ruthless, not the snarling animalistic barbarians who make everybody wonder how in the hell they got into space in the first place that they are now.

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2002-10-20 08:44pm

Yes, the movie Klingons were good.

Grand Admiral Thrawn · Post by **Grand Admiral Thrawn** » 2002-10-20 08:45pm

And add lasers and nukes instead of "phase cannons" and "spacial torpedoes" (which appear to be WAY weaker)?

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2002-10-20 09:03pm

Lasers would be a tad odd. They'd be invisable and wouldn't look good enough on the screen for um.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2002-10-20 09:09pm

Maybe mix the lasers in with some funky subspace particle to give them a faint glowing beam.

Only, say 'You see those? Laser cannons. Standard laser/subspace particle cocktail. Looks kick ass, doesn't it?"

DON'T say 'The lasers interact with subspace particles on a tetryon field emission level in the thirty-fourth manifold dilithium reaction deposit to produce a high-powered field gun."

RayCav of ASVS · Post by **RayCav of ASVS** » 2002-10-20 09:14pm

but what if under contractural agreement they forced Wong to keep ENT continuality intact, even at the expense of TOS/TNG continuality

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2002-10-20 09:17pm

Then Wong is fucked.

Patrick Degan · Post by **Patrick Degan** » 2002-10-20 09:17pm

Cyril wrote:Maybe mix the lasers in with some funky subspace particle to give them a faint glowing beam.

Only, say 'You see those? Laser cannons. Standard laser/subspace particle cocktail. Looks kick ass, doesn't it?"

DON'T say 'The lasers interact with subspace particles on a tetryon field emission level in the thirty-fourth manifold dilithium reaction deposit to produce a high-powered field gun."

Either just go with conventional artistic license and show glowing laser beams, or make the things particle cannons. But PLEEZE! No more technobabble! No more "subspace" this and "subspace" that. That was Lord Wong's entire point.

As for the look of the ship, by all means, the TOS look is the way to go. You want more "primitive" control systems, they could always design them like the engine room control consoles from TOS' first season (which also popped up in Auxilliary Control aboard the E-nil in a number of episodes).

And yes, let's have the original Klingons. And Orion slave-girls. At Pike's Place.

Typhonis 1 · Post by **Typhonis 1** » 2002-10-20 09:23pm

Not really given that this is supposedly a poluted timeline there are a few things he can do*VEG* A blow the ship up killing a ferw of the crew and bringing in new peeps B Intelligent well groomed ridged forehead klingons are acceptable and if they spout Shakespeare then who cares as long as they look and act intelligent C use the Romulans after all there was an Earth romulan war and the series can be used to show how it starts up D bring in a few of the other races Andor and Earth almost went to wart I believe E Kill the technobabael and the other BS

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2002-10-20 09:30pm

Either just go with conventional artistic license and show glowing laser beams, or make the things particle cannons. But PLEEZE! No more technobabble! No more "subspace" this and "subspace" that. That was Lord Wong's entire point.

Point.

Darth Yoshi · Post by **Darth Yoshi** » 2002-10-20 10:00pm

RayCav of ASVS wrote:but what if under contractural agreement they forced Wong to keep ENT continuality intact, even at the expense of TOS/TNG continuality

Lord Wong had better find a new job, then. Either can the series, or quit. I vote for can the series.

Wicked Pilot · Post by **Wicked Pilot** » 2002-10-20 10:01pm

Darth Wong wrote:I would get rid of the Romulans,

Wait a minute, back up the B&B Train, just when did the Romulans come into the series? Please tell me it's a joke. Please tell me that Enterprise is nothing but a bad dream of mine. Somebody pinch me quick, and hard.

paladin · Post by **paladin** » 2002-10-20 10:10pm

Darth Wong wrote:That depends. Am I under some sort of contract to keep it on the air? If so, I would prefer to reboot the series and start over from scratch. I would make the sets look like TOS. I would get rid of the Romulans, bring back the TOS-style Klingons, restore continuity, eliminate all technobabble, make the ship look like a proper period ship, etc. And I would dump the annoying Vulcan. I think we've all had more than enough of the "fish out of water" Trek cliche; surely they can find some other goddamned axe to grind.

And, oh yes ... bring back the miniskirts for the female crew

Cancelling Enterprise is not an option. Paramount wants show to run for a total of 7 seasons. You would take over on the 3rd season.

Evil Jerk · Post by **Evil Jerk** » 2002-10-20 10:14pm

Wicked Pilot wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:I would get rid of the Romulans,
Wait a minute, back up the B&B Train, just when did the Romulans come into the series? Please tell me it's a joke. Please tell me that Enterprise is nothing but a bad dream of mine. Somebody pinch me quick, and hard.

Three episodes ago, I think. And they could cloak. Themselves and their minefield. And they didn't have a bird of prey painted on their underside.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2002-10-20 10:20pm

paladin wrote:Cancelling Enterprise is not an option. Paramount wants show to run for a total of 7 seasons. You would take over on the 3rd season.

So I can't cancel it, and I can't reboot it from scratch? OK, there's only one option left to improve the series (bear with me):

the Federation encounters a new, deadly alien race.
After a brief but glorious show of resistance, the Federation is defeated (gasp!)
After years of valiant resistance fighting, they manage to defeat their alien overlords.
They switch to much more rugged starship designs and they build a mighty military organization which crushes their alien oppressors in a brutal act of vengeance.
They begin a campaign of aggressive colonization, expansion, and conquest.
In the final episode of the 7th season, they reveal their new logo: the militaristic UFP logo from the TOS episode "Mirror, Mirror"

Yes, this was actually the mirror-universe Earth Empire all along. That's why the continuity is fucked. Bwahahahahaha!!!!

paladin · Post by **paladin** » 2002-10-20 10:28pm

Darth Wong wrote:
paladin wrote:Cancelling Enterprise is not an option. Paramount wants show to run for a total of 7 seasons. You would take over on the 3rd season.
So I can't cancel it, and I can't reboot it from scratch? OK, there's only one option left to improve the series (bear with me):
the Federation encounters a new, deadly alien race.

After a brief but glorious show of resistance, the Federation is defeated (gasp!)

After years of valiant resistance fighting, they manage to defeat their alien overlords.

They switch to much more rugged starship designs and they build a mighty military organization which crushes their alien oppressors in a brutal act of vengeance.

They begin a campaign of aggressive colonization, expansion, and conquest.

In the final episode of the 7th season, they reveal their new logo: the militaristic UFP logo from the TOS episode "Mirror, Mirror"
Yes, this was actually the mirror-universe Earth Empire all along. That's why the continuity is fucked. Bwahahahahaha!!!!

I like it. Better then any of the ideas the "creative" staff for Enterprise has now.

THEHOOLIGANJEDI · Post by **THEHOOLIGANJEDI** » 2002-10-20 10:30pm

Darth Wong wrote:
paladin wrote:Cancelling Enterprise is not an option. Paramount wants show to run for a total of 7 seasons. You would take over on the 3rd season.
So I can't cancel it, and I can't reboot it from scratch? OK, there's only one option left to improve the series (bear with me):
the Federation encounters a new, deadly alien race.

After a brief but glorious show of resistance, the Federation is defeated (gasp!)

After years of valiant resistance fighting, they manage to defeat their alien overlords.

They switch to much more rugged starship designs and they build a mighty military organization which crushes their alien oppressors in a brutal act of vengeance.

They begin a campaign of aggressive colonization, expansion, and conquest.

In the final episode of the 7th season, they reveal their new logo: the militaristic UFP logo from the TOS episode "Mirror, Mirror"
Yes, this was actually the mirror-universe Earth Empire all along. That's why the continuity is fucked. Bwahahahahaha!!!!

Very interesting.

StarDestroyer.Net BBS

Lord Wong as the producer of Enterprise

Lord Wong as the producer of Enterprise

No! No more technobabble no no NO!