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Rigging a battery onto a solar calculator
Posted: 2006-02-20 05:19pm
by Simmon
I noticed today that the solar power cell on my calculator was cracked. As a result, the calculator in no longer in working condition. As I'll be buying a new one anyway, it can't hurt to mess around with this one. My question is, is it possible to remove the solar cell and rig a battery to act for it, and if so, what battery should I use? The calculator is a CASIO fx-260 solar, an image can be found
here.
Posted: 2006-02-20 05:27pm
by Enigma
Try a car battery.

Posted: 2006-02-20 05:33pm
by Simmon
Let me rephrase. I meant a battery the calculator can run on, not one that will overload it and possibly kill the circuits.
Posted: 2006-02-20 05:41pm
by darthdavid
Simmon wrote:Let me rephrase. I meant a battery the calculator can run on, not one that will overload it and possibly kill the circuits.
Ok, what you've got to do, you've got to get a battery holder, then wire it so it's positive and negative ends are wired same as the solar cells were. To figure out the battery just get the output specs for the solar cell on that calculator and use a battery type that has the same specs.
Posted: 2006-02-20 05:56pm
by GrandMasterTerwynn
Simmon wrote:Let me rephrase. I meant a battery the calculator can run on, not one that will overload it and possibly kill the circuits.
Those little hand-held calculators typically run on one or two coin-shaped batteries providing between 1.5 VDC to 3.0 VDC at around 80 mAh. In some rare cases, you'll find dinky calculators running on larger button-cell batteries providing between 3.0 VDC and 6.0 VDC. However, your Casio isn't likely to require that much voltage. More likely than not, it will be a standard 1.5 VDC to 3.0 VDC (with the former being the first you should try, and the latter the one you should try should it not power up at 1.5 VDC)
Posted: 2006-02-20 05:57pm
by Simmon
I tried a AA battery. It works!

Now I need to duct tape it in place
Somehow, I like messing with electronics.
EDIT: GAH! This calculator was soley on solar power which means that it does not turn off! No off button! It turned off when it lost solar power! Now I have to rig a switch to have and on/off ability. I think a removable wire with duct tape will do. Just rip it off to turn it off, stick back on to turn on.

I go to a Science/Technology program at school, my friends will love this!
Also, if could find one, I'll use a real switch.
Posted: 2006-02-20 06:28pm
by Sea Skimmer
Simmon wrote:Let me rephrase. I meant a battery the calculator can run on, not one that will overload it and possibly kill the circuits.
There would be no ‘possibly’ about it.
Posted: 2006-02-20 06:38pm
by Simmon
I realize that. I went for sarcasm as well as Enigma.
Posted: 2006-02-20 07:04pm
by Simmon
Update: The battery is secured with scotch tape, and I even managed to make a power switch of sorts. I have a small piece of metal bent into an L near my battery, and I push it against the battery when I want power. It's unstable, but it works!

I'll post an image of "my calculator now" soon.
Edit:
Images can now be found
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here and
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Posted: 2006-02-20 08:13pm
by FSTargetDrone
Simmon wrote:Update: The battery is secured with scotch tape, and I even managed to make a power switch of sorts. I have a small piece of metal bent into an L near my battery, and I push it against the battery when I want power. It's unstable, but it works!

I'll post an image of "my calculator now" soon.
Well that looks crappy. Come on now! You need to take this seriously. First, rig up some sort of battery holder. Failing that, buy one from Radio Shack. Then you need to construct a housing to cover the case and wires on the bottom. Of course, you'll need a method to secure the cover to the bottom. Perhaps a system of hinges and a simple lock. Make sure they are constructed of brass. Very important. Gotta make it look flashy. But no iron. Far too heavy.
Rivet the hinges to the side and perhaps apply some felt to the bottom for that smooth finish.
Edit, I would also reroute the wires coming out of the solar cell opening through the bottom and cover the opening with some sort of engraved nameplate.
Posted: 2006-02-20 08:16pm
by Simmon
Valid points, but it's not like I'm keeping it for use.

Posted: 2006-02-20 08:19pm
by FSTargetDrone
Simmon wrote:Valid points, but it's not like I'm keeping it for use.

Nonsense. You should plan on investing heavily into this project. I'm thinking custom paint job or, if you're into a custom G-Shock look, perhaps some rubberized protective covering. And think about angling the base for easy viewing. That strip of metal on the bottom just isn't cutting it.
Posted: 2006-02-20 09:18pm
by Simmon
You know, you might have me convinced. This thing is dead anyway, so I might as well mess with it some more. I could pull alot of stuff in tech class, as many tools and materials are availible. It will be much more interesting then the stuff we do now...
I could possibly *make* a battery holder. Don't know about the paint, but a protective cover is possible.
Posted: 2006-02-20 09:27pm
by SCRawl
Why not buy a little solar cell? It'll take up less space....
Posted: 2006-02-20 09:42pm
by FSTargetDrone
Simmon wrote:You know, you might have me convinced. This thing is dead anyway, so I might as well mess with it some more. I could pull alot of stuff in tech class, as many tools and materials are availible. It will be much more interesting then the stuff we do now...
I could possibly *make* a battery holder. Don't know about the paint, but a protective cover is possible.
There you go! Get creative. Jazz that sucker up and come back and show us what you made of it.
SCRawl wrote:Why not buy a little solar cell? It'll take up less space....
Well that's no fun!
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Posted: 2006-02-20 09:47pm
by Sonnenburg
Simmon wrote:I tried a AA battery. It works!

Now I need to duct tape it in place
Somehow, I like messing with electronics.
EDIT: GAH! This calculator was soley on solar power which means that it does not turn off! No off button! It turned off when it lost solar power! Now I have to rig a switch to have and on/off ability. I think a removable wire with duct tape will do. Just rip it off to turn it off, stick back on to turn on.

I go to a Science/Technology program at school, my friends will love this!
Also, if could find one, I'll use a real switch.
Memories... I did the same thing when my solar calculator broke in the eighties, and yeah, a AA battery works just fine. What I did (because I loved low tech things) was used electrical tape to secure the wires on the calculator, then taped one to an end to the battery. The other end had two tabs off of soda cans, one taped to the wire, the other to the battery, and they would hook together to complete the circuit. Like I said, it was the eighties and MacGyver was still big at the time.
Posted: 2006-02-20 10:00pm
by Simmon
MacGyver was all I was thinking.
It might be some time untill I complete this thing. I can't believe I'll actualy do it.
Posted: 2006-02-20 11:19pm
by Elheru Aran
Here's a tip to start off with... ditch the Scotch tape. No offense, but looks like it was put together by a third grader. Admittedly, a smart third grader with an Erector set, but still...

Posted: 2006-02-21 07:44am
by Simmon
How very true...The metal didn't come from an Erector set, but off a Junior Electricity Lab (not much different)
Which reminds me...unless I'm mistaken, I have a battery holder in my Erector set...
Posted: 2006-02-21 11:55am
by FSTargetDrone
Simmon wrote:How very true...The metal didn't come from an Erector set, but off a Junior Electricity Lab (not much different)
Which reminds me...unless I'm mistaken, I have a battery holder in my Erector set...
Ah-ha!
You know, all kidding aside, you could stick that battery holder horizontally across the back/top of the calculator, opposite where the solar cell was. That way you can have the thing angled upwards a bit, making the battery holder act as a stand.