Anyone else miss Bob Brown's Star Wars discussions?

PSW: discuss Star Wars without "versus" arguments.

Moderator: Vympel

User avatar
Galvatron
Decepticon Leader
Posts: 5676
Joined: 2002-07-12 12:27am
Location: Kill! Smash! Destroy! Rend! Mangle! Distort!

Postby Galvatron » 2004-02-24 11:30pm

Illuminatus Primus wrote:Yeah, think of SW analysis in terms of a spectrum...

TheForce.net EU fanboys --- SD.net --- Mike and Saxton --- Bob Brown --- TheForce.net Purist Wankers

I'd probably fit in somewhere between Mike/Curtis and Bob, although I wholeheartedly agree with Bob about the prequels.

I miss the old mailing list that Curtis, Bob, Mike, and I were on (long before this forum existed). We had some great discussions and exchanges of ideas.
Last edited by Galvatron on 2004-02-24 11:33pm, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
Stofsk
Emperor's Hand
Posts: 12924
Joined: 2003-11-10 12:36am
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Contact:

Postby Stofsk » 2004-02-24 11:32pm

Illuminatus Primus wrote:Old Thread on Bob

404 Not found.
Image

User avatar
Robert Treder
has strong kung-fu.
Posts: 3891
Joined: 2002-07-03 02:38am
Location: San Jose, CA

Postby Robert Treder » 2004-02-24 11:33pm

As long as we're talking about the spectrum, I guess I fall in pretty squarely with Mike and Curtis; I follow Mike's rules for suspension of disbelief and determining canonicity.
However, I fucking HATE that Coruscant was destroyed in the NJO (though I don't disregard the NJO as part of the continuity; I just don't like it).

Oh, and IP, your link, she does not work.
And you may ask yourself, 'Where does that highway go to?'

Brotherhood of the Monkey - First Monkey|Justice League - Daredevil|Late Knights of Conan O'Brien - Eisenhower Mug Knight (13 Conan Pts.)|SD.Net Chroniclers|HAB

User avatar
Crayz9000
Sith Apprentice
Posts: 7323
Joined: 2002-07-03 06:39pm
Location: Improbably superpositioned
Contact:

Postby Crayz9000 » 2004-02-24 11:34pm

Vympel wrote:His site is mirrored somewhere. I don't remember where though.

Anyway, it was fun to read, as long as you skip over the aforementioned purist "I know SW better than GL does" tripe.


I have a really outdated mirror/copy of it on my hard drive, but unfortunately half the images didn't get downloaded. I was going to update it before he closed the site down, but never got around to it.

At least Mike Marincic (the guy who drew up the highly detailed elevations for the Tantive IV and Falcon) is still around.

And yes, his site was indeed interesting to read. He had a lot of good points on it, kind of mixed in with his rants.
A Tribute to Stupidity: The Robert Scott Anderson Archive (currently offline)
John Hansen - Slightly Insane Bounty Hunter - ASVS Vets' Assoc. Class of 2000
HAB Cryptanalyst | WG - Intergalactic Alliance and Spoof Author | BotM | Cybertron | SCEF

User avatar
Galvatron
Decepticon Leader
Posts: 5676
Joined: 2002-07-12 12:27am
Location: Kill! Smash! Destroy! Rend! Mangle! Distort!

Postby Galvatron » 2004-02-24 11:37pm

Those deckplans can be found here.

User avatar
Spanky The Dolphin
Mammy Two-Shoes
Posts: 30776
Joined: 2002-07-05 05:45pm
Location: Reykjavík, Iceland (not really)

Postby Spanky The Dolphin » 2004-02-24 11:39pm

*bookmarks*

Galv, I thank you greatly.
Image
I believe in a sign of Zeta.

[BOTM|WG|JL|Mecha Maniacs|Pax Cybertronia|Veteran of the Psychic Wars|Eva Expert]

"And besides, who cares if a monster destroys Australia?"

User avatar
Cyborg Stan
Jedi Knight
Posts: 849
Joined: 2002-12-10 01:59am
Location: Still Hungry.
Contact:

Postby Cyborg Stan » 2004-02-24 11:51pm

ASVS Vets Assoc, Class of 1999

Geh Ick Bleah

Avatar is an image of Yuyuko Saigyouji from the Touhou Series.

User avatar
YT300000
Sith'ari
Posts: 6528
Joined: 2003-05-20 12:49pm
Location: Calgary, Canada
Contact:

Postby YT300000 » 2004-02-24 11:53pm

Cyborg Stan wrote:His site, archived from the Internet Archive


Thank. You.
Name changes are for people who wear women's clothes. - Zuul

Wow. It took me a good minute to remember I didn't have testicles. -xBlackFlash

Are you sure this isn't like that time Michael Jackson stopped by your house so he could use the bathroom? - Superman

User avatar
Rogue 9
Scrapping TIEs since 1997
Posts: 17497
Joined: 2003-11-12 01:10pm
Location: Classified
Contact:

Postby Rogue 9 » 2004-02-24 11:53pm

Not getting much out of the archive except a bunch of red Xs.

Kazuaki Shimazaki
Jedi Council Member
Posts: 2355
Joined: 2002-07-05 09:27pm
Contact:

Postby Kazuaki Shimazaki » 2004-02-25 12:07am

Rogue 9 wrote:Not getting much out of the archive except a bunch of red Xs.


Click blind. You do roughly remember the site's lay. The other pages have most of the pictures intact (so far.)

User avatar
Darth Wong
Sith Lord
Sith Lord
Posts: 70027
Joined: 2002-07-03 12:25am
Location: Toronto, Canada
Contact:

Postby Darth Wong » 2004-02-25 12:41am

Galvatron wrote:I miss the old mailing list that Curtis, Bob, Mike, and I were on (long before this forum existed). We had some great discussions and exchanges of ideas.

Shhh!!!! You have broken your vow of eternal secrecy! You must now accept 40 lashes from an East German dominatrix!
Image
"It's not evil for God to do it. Or for someone to do it at God's command."- Jonathan Boyd on baby-killing

"you guys are fascinated with the use of those "rules of logic" to the extent that you don't really want to discussus anything."- GC

"I do not believe Russian Roulette is a stupid act" - Embracer of Darkness

"Viagra commercials appear to save lives" - tharkûn on US health care.

http://www.stardestroyer.net/Mike/RantMode/Blurbs.html

User avatar
Galvatron
Decepticon Leader
Posts: 5676
Joined: 2002-07-12 12:27am
Location: Kill! Smash! Destroy! Rend! Mangle! Distort!

Postby Galvatron » 2004-02-25 12:46am

Darth Wong wrote:
Galvatron wrote:I miss the old mailing list that Curtis, Bob, Mike, and I were on (long before this forum existed). We had some great discussions and exchanges of ideas.

Shhh!!!! You have broken your vow of eternal secrecy! You must now accept 40 lashes from an East German dominatrix!

I thought that was a vow of celibacy! You mean I've been abstinent all these years for no reason?! :x

User avatar
Darth Wong
Sith Lord
Sith Lord
Posts: 70027
Joined: 2002-07-03 12:25am
Location: Toronto, Canada
Contact:

Postby Darth Wong » 2004-02-25 12:48am

Galvatron wrote:I thought that was a vow of celibacy! You mean I've been abstinant all these years for no reason?!

Shit, looks like something was misinterpreted. Sorry about that :oops:

Well, it's not too late to make up for lost time. You can start with the East German dominatrix, after she releases your testicles from the Constrictor.
Image
"It's not evil for God to do it. Or for someone to do it at God's command."- Jonathan Boyd on baby-killing

"you guys are fascinated with the use of those "rules of logic" to the extent that you don't really want to discussus anything."- GC

"I do not believe Russian Roulette is a stupid act" - Embracer of Darkness

"Viagra commercials appear to save lives" - tharkûn on US health care.

http://www.stardestroyer.net/Mike/RantMode/Blurbs.html

User avatar
Rogue 9
Scrapping TIEs since 1997
Posts: 17497
Joined: 2003-11-12 01:10pm
Location: Classified
Contact:

Postby Rogue 9 » 2004-02-25 12:54am

:lol:

Anyway, one of those links in the archive actually has functioning pictures and such, but its from 2001. I wish the more recent ones worked.

User avatar
Robert Treder
has strong kung-fu.
Posts: 3891
Joined: 2002-07-03 02:38am
Location: San Jose, CA

Postby Robert Treder » 2004-02-25 12:56am

Rogue 9 wrote::lol:

Anyway, one of those links in the archive actually has functioning pictures and such, but its from 2001. I wish the more recent ones worked.


Click around on the left side of the screen (your cursor should turn into a hand or whatever). Basically, the archive shows the front page as just all white, so you've gotta know where the things were.
The page was set up with a menu bar on the left, and I think you should be able to find some interesting stuff there.
And you may ask yourself, 'Where does that highway go to?'



Brotherhood of the Monkey - First Monkey|Justice League - Daredevil|Late Knights of Conan O'Brien - Eisenhower Mug Knight (13 Conan Pts.)|SD.Net Chroniclers|HAB

User avatar
Galvatron
Decepticon Leader
Posts: 5676
Joined: 2002-07-12 12:27am
Location: Kill! Smash! Destroy! Rend! Mangle! Distort!

Postby Galvatron » 2004-02-25 12:57am

Darth Wong wrote:
Galvatron wrote:I thought that was a vow of celibacy! You mean I've been abstinant all these years for no reason?!

Shit, looks like something was misinterpreted. Sorry about that :oops:

Come to think of it, I always did wonder why you were allowed to have anal sex and I wasn't... :(

Darth Wong wrote:Well, it's not too late to make up for lost time. You can start with the East German dominatrix, after she releases your testicles from the Constrictor.

Are you talking about FTB?

At any rate, despite his eccentricities and often scathing diatribes against the EU and George Lucas, I think the loss of Bob from the fold was a dark day for SW fandom...

User avatar
Darth Wong
Sith Lord
Sith Lord
Posts: 70027
Joined: 2002-07-03 12:25am
Location: Toronto, Canada
Contact:

Postby Darth Wong » 2004-02-25 01:07am

Galvatron wrote:Come to think of it, I always did wonder why you were allowed to have anal sex and I wasn't... :(

Mind you, opportunity is also important :wink:
Are you talking about FTB?

That is a truly horrible thought.
At any rate, despite his eccentricities and often scathing diatribes against the EU and George Lucas, I think the loss of Bob from the fold was a dark day for SW fandom...

It was, although his refusal to accept simple Newtonian kinematics or the scientific method in general limited his ability to do any kind of analysis that would require physics, as opposed to things like deckplan layouts and making technical analogues to modern systems.

But there was nothing anyone could do about it, short of building a time machine and preventing his participation as an extra during the AOTC shooting. His increasingly explosive attitude toward SW and GL from that moment on was a one-way ride to an inevitable outcome. It's one thing to say that you didn't like TPM or AOTC as a film, but he went well beyond film criticism. It became a severe emotional issue, and that's nothing that you, I, or anyone else but Bob himself could have changed.
Image
"It's not evil for God to do it. Or for someone to do it at God's command."- Jonathan Boyd on baby-killing

"you guys are fascinated with the use of those "rules of logic" to the extent that you don't really want to discussus anything."- GC

"I do not believe Russian Roulette is a stupid act" - Embracer of Darkness

"Viagra commercials appear to save lives" - tharkûn on US health care.

http://www.stardestroyer.net/Mike/RantMode/Blurbs.html

User avatar
RogueIce
_______
Posts: 13218
Joined: 2003-01-05 01:36am
Location: Tampa Bay, Florida, USA
Contact:

Postby RogueIce » 2004-02-25 01:37pm

Ah, I remember when I posted my question about this. If I weren't so lazy I'd go look it up. :)

Anyway, he did have some interesting stuff. The "Star Wars as Greek Tragedy" thing looked promising, and from my vauge memory didn't have rants.

Basically, I loved him for his analysis, and skimmed over the rantings and ravings. Except for the Jedi Robes bit, which turned into a rant at the end, and even seemed to start that way. *shrug* I was tempted to post in his web board about that, just never got around to it.
Image
"How can I wait unknowing?
This is the price of war,
We rise with noble intentions,
And we risk all that is pure..." - Angela & Jeff van Dyck, Forever (Rome: Total War)

"On and on, through the years,
The war continues on..." - Angela & Jeff van Dyck, We Are All One (Medieval 2: Total War)
"Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgment that something else is more important than fear." - Ambrose Redmoon
"You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain." - Harvey Dent, The Dark Knight

User avatar
Spanky The Dolphin
Mammy Two-Shoes
Posts: 30776
Joined: 2002-07-05 05:45pm
Location: Reykjavík, Iceland (not really)

Postby Spanky The Dolphin » 2004-02-25 01:48pm

I used to read and occasionally post in his board a long time ago. I still remember there was some semi-nutjob named Frank Bitterhoff who had a bunch of weird, complex theories that didn't make much sense, such as there being like three engine systems associated with hyperdrives or such drivel.
Image

I believe in a sign of Zeta.



[BOTM|WG|JL|Mecha Maniacs|Pax Cybertronia|Veteran of the Psychic Wars|Eva Expert]



"And besides, who cares if a monster destroys Australia?"

User avatar
RogueIce
_______
Posts: 13218
Joined: 2003-01-05 01:36am
Location: Tampa Bay, Florida, USA
Contact:

Postby RogueIce » 2004-02-25 02:19pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:I used to read and occasionally post in his board a long time ago. I still remember there was some semi-nutjob named Frank Bitterhoff who had a bunch of weird, complex theories that didn't make much sense, such as there being like three engine systems associated with hyperdrives or such drivel.


I remember that dude too. I never posted, but I would browse. I remember a semi-interesting starfighter discussion thread that went on in there...
Image
"How can I wait unknowing?
This is the price of war,
We rise with noble intentions,
And we risk all that is pure..." - Angela & Jeff van Dyck, Forever (Rome: Total War)

"On and on, through the years,
The war continues on..." - Angela & Jeff van Dyck, We Are All One (Medieval 2: Total War)
"Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgment that something else is more important than fear." - Ambrose Redmoon
"You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain." - Harvey Dent, The Dark Knight

User avatar
Stravo
Official SD.Net Teller of Tales
Posts: 12806
Joined: 2002-07-08 12:06pm
Location: NYC

Postby Stravo » 2004-02-25 02:42pm

I LOVED his analysis of the different lightsaber fighting style. He had a very excellent analysis on why Vader fought the way he did with broad sweeping strokes meant to overpower since he was no longer agile and great screenshots to illustrate his points.

He had a great parallel between Obi Wan of TPM era and his arrogant style, emphasizing leaps and kicks, to the seasoned veteran who "controlled the middle" during his duel with Vader on the DS1.

I must have missed the other lunacy since that was the only part of his site that I ever saw or read.
Wherever you go, there you are.

Ripped Shirt Monkey - BOTMWriter's Guild Cybertron's Finest Justice League
This updated sig brought to you by JME2
Image

User avatar
RogueIce
_______
Posts: 13218
Joined: 2003-01-05 01:36am
Location: Tampa Bay, Florida, USA
Contact:

Postby RogueIce » 2004-02-25 03:22pm

RogueIce wrote:Ah, I remember when I posted my question about this. If I weren't so lazy I'd go look it up. :)


Here we go:

Robert Brown's site

For more of the same, and maybe even something new.
Image
"How can I wait unknowing?
This is the price of war,
We rise with noble intentions,
And we risk all that is pure..." - Angela & Jeff van Dyck, Forever (Rome: Total War)

"On and on, through the years,
The war continues on..." - Angela & Jeff van Dyck, We Are All One (Medieval 2: Total War)
"Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgment that something else is more important than fear." - Ambrose Redmoon
"You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain." - Harvey Dent, The Dark Knight

User avatar
Spanky The Dolphin
Mammy Two-Shoes
Posts: 30776
Joined: 2002-07-05 05:45pm
Location: Reykjavík, Iceland (not really)

Postby Spanky The Dolphin » 2004-02-25 04:46pm

Stravo wrote:I LOVED his analysis of the different lightsaber fighting style. He had a very excellent analysis on why Vader fought the way he did with broad sweeping strokes meant to overpower since he was no longer agile and great screenshots to illustrate his points.


"Vader fights like a bulldozer."

I loved that line... :)
Image

I believe in a sign of Zeta.



[BOTM|WG|JL|Mecha Maniacs|Pax Cybertronia|Veteran of the Psychic Wars|Eva Expert]



"And besides, who cares if a monster destroys Australia?"

User avatar
Comosicus
Keeper of the Lore
Posts: 1991
Joined: 2003-11-23 06:33pm
Location: on the battlements of Sarmizegetusa
Contact:

Postby Comosicus » 2004-02-25 05:08pm

The reason I reached this site for the first time was BB's link to Turbolaser commentaries. And on his site I arrived looking for lightsabers :)
Not all Dacians died at Sarmizegetusa

User avatar
Connor MacLeod
Sith Apprentice
Posts: 14057
Joined: 2002-08-01 05:03pm
Contact:

Postby Connor MacLeod » 2004-02-25 05:09pm

Galvatron wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:
Galvatron wrote:I miss the old mailing list that Curtis, Bob, Mike, and I were on (long before this forum existed). We had some great discussions and exchanges of ideas.

Shhh!!!! You have broken your vow of eternal secrecy! You must now accept 40 lashes from an East German dominatrix!

I thought that was a vow of celibacy! You mean I've been abstinent all these years for no reason?! :x


Hmm. Now I must find out your identity. *brings forth three East German Dominatrixes* :D


Return to “Pure Star Wars”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest