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Rise of Skywalker news.

Post by The Romulan Republic » 2019-07-11 09:26am

I expect we'll get a lot of announcements and rumors over the next few months, so here goes.

To start with, they've just revealed a new storm trooper variant called a "Sith trooper". They're apparently a new First Order trooper, wearing storm trooper style armor in red:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W52mBo8zG6g

So, I guess they're dropping all pretense of Kylo not being a Sith, eh? Got to reassure the fanboys that the franchise will never dare try to do anything really original again. I have a sinking feeling that this movie will be basically a two-hour retcon of/apology for The Last Jedi, meant to reassure old OT fans that the franchise will never dare try to grow beyond them and their demands again. :roll:
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Post by Galvatron » 2019-07-11 10:58am

Could it be that it has more to do with Palpatine than Kylo?

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Post by The Romulan Republic » 2019-07-11 11:03am

Galvatron wrote:
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Could it be that it has more to do with Palpatine than Kylo?
I thought of that, and it would be the better alternative, I think, but they describe it in the video as a variety of First Order storm trooper, I believe.
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Post by Solauren » 2019-07-11 11:56am

Another way to look at it:

Kylo was ALWAYS Sith, due to his reverence of Darth Vader. He might even have access to a Holocron (possibly one of Palpatine's), to become a legitimate Sith.

So he goes 'fuck this Knights of Ren shit, I AM A SITH LORD, LIKE MY GRANDFATHER BEFORE ME'

He then informs the First Order, they're now the new Sith Empire, and instead of being Stormtroopers, they are Sith troopers.

His saying 'no jedi, no sith' to Rey, was a LIE.


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Post by The Romulan Republic » 2019-07-11 05:20pm

Solauren wrote:
2019-07-11 11:56am
Another way to look at it:

Kylo was ALWAYS Sith, due to his reverence of Darth Vader. He might even have access to a Holocron (possibly one of Palpatine's), to become a legitimate Sith.

So he goes 'fuck this Knights of Ren shit, I AM A SITH LORD, LIKE MY GRANDFATHER BEFORE ME'
Directly contradicts his dialogue to Rey in the throne room, but I suppose you can subscribe that to Kylo lying.
He then informs the First Order, they're now the new Sith Empire, and instead of being Stormtroopers, they are Sith troopers.

His saying 'no jedi, no sith' to Rey, was a LIE.


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It's not uncommon for Star Wars to use false names during production.
Yeah, or that. And Abrams in particular is known for deliberately putting out bullshit about his movies to hide any actual spoilers, IIRC.
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Post by Patroklos » 2019-07-12 05:45pm

The good old video game shader trick. It doesn’t appear they have even modified the armor in any obvious way.

Something tells me they will be even more lame tan those budget TLJ royal guard rip offs swirling around like monkeys in ballarina outfits who were all dead after two minutes of screen time.

Probably less lame than Phasma though.

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Post by Vympel » 2019-07-13 08:57am

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The good old video game shader trick. It doesn’t appear they have even modified the armor in any obvious way.
Er- what? They're entirely new armor molds from top to bottom. It's super-obvious.

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Post by Solauren » 2019-07-13 12:02pm

Given Disney's record of third party licensing, this means nothing.
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Post by Vympel » 2019-07-13 09:00pm

Solauren wrote:
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Given Disney's record of third party licensing, this means nothing.
I don't know what that means? They're going to be in the film is all we know at this point.
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Post by Solauren » 2019-07-13 09:45pm

Vympel wrote:
2019-07-13 09:00pm
Solauren wrote:
2019-07-13 12:02pm
Given Disney's record of third party licensing, this means nothing.
I don't know what that means? They're going to be in the film is all we know at this point.
Third Parties that are legally allowed to make whatever they want under licence, but that Disney and LucasArts doesn't have to give two shits about provided it doesn't violate said licence.
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Post by Batman » 2019-07-14 12:12am

I think what he means is just because the 'toy' is noticeably different from a FO StormTrooper painted red doesn't necessarily mean the real thing will be
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Post by Gandalf » 2019-07-14 07:06am

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I think what he means is just because the 'toy' is noticeably different from a FO StormTrooper painted red doesn't necessarily mean the real thing will be
Do Disney's high end collectable licensed figures often have that level of derivation?
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Post by Vympel » 2019-07-14 10:29am

Solauren wrote:
2019-07-13 09:45pm
Third Parties that are legally allowed to make whatever they want under licence, but that Disney and LucasArts doesn't have to give two shits about provided it doesn't violate said licence.
Hot Toys make very expensive replicas - chiefly from films - for collectors. Theyr'e always ridiculously accurate to the relevant licence - that's the point of their existence.
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Do Disney's high end collectable licensed figures often have that level of derivation?
No, they don't*. And besides, this is clearly an Episode 9 marketing push reveal. It's not "look at this thing a licensee pulled out of their ass".
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I think what he means is just because the 'toy' is noticeably different from a FO StormTrooper painted red doesn't necessarily mean the real thing will be
See above. Besides, not even the basic Hasbro 'Sith Trooper' action figures revealed are an FO Stormtrooper painted red either.

*They do some 'special edition' versions of previous releases - stuff like say, a China-themed Stormtrooper, but that's literally just a repaint, using an existing mold.
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Post by JI_Joe84 » 2019-07-21 06:45pm

I wonder how they expect a guy to see with this helmet? Look at where the eye's should be, it's like those cheek pieces are jabbing into his eye's. That must be fun.

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Post by Gandalf » 2019-07-22 12:31am

JI_Joe84 wrote:
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I wonder how they expect a guy to see with this helmet? Look at where the eye's should be, it's like those cheek pieces are jabbing into his eye's. That must be fun.
In helmet HUD?
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Post by Batman » 2019-07-22 02:25pm

Remember, 'I can't see a thing in this helmet' :P
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Post by Elheru Aran » 2019-07-23 02:19pm

Batman wrote:
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Remember, 'I can't see a thing in this helmet' :P
The helmets -are- legit hard to see out of; the eye-holes are proportionally a tad too high, and the clear material over the eye-holes has a heavy green tint to it. That was part of the reason why they redesigned the First Order helmets for TFA, they moved the eye-holes down a bit to make it easier for extras to see and move around safely.
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Post by SpottedKitty » 2019-07-23 05:38pm

Batman wrote:
2019-07-22 02:25pm
Remember, 'I can't see a thing in this helmet' :P
Wouldn't it be funny if there's a button you press with your nose to switch on the in-helmet HUD, but Luke and Han didn't know about it? :twisted: :roll: :wink:
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Post by Batman » 2019-07-23 06:25pm

Well an 'out-of helmet' HUD would be moderately pointless don't you think?
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'You know, for a guy with like 50 different kinds of vision, you sure are blind.'

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Post by Galvatron » 2019-07-23 10:00pm

It's like something Kramer and Newman would devise.

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Post by Eternal_Freedom » 2019-08-26 09:36am

Fuck a duck, that was a lot of Star Destroyers in one shot.
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Post by Galvatron » 2019-08-26 10:48am

And they're all ISD-1's for some reason.

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Post by Eternal_Freedom » 2019-08-26 10:54am

Maybe it's what's left of the Republic/Imperial Fleet that was mothballed and have been reactivated after the events of TFA.
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Post by Galvatron » 2019-08-26 11:02am

Or they're just lazily reusing the 3D model from Rogue One. :P

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