They've been off GRRM's material for upwards of two seasons, and while a lot of people have whined about it not being like the books, I still liked it for the most part.LaCroix wrote: ↑2019-05-16 08:05amThe thing is, any writer is going to be an a bad situation:
You end at season 6 with all existing material used up and the plotlines as they are.
The only guy really albe to write the stories to feel like they were is hemming and hawing for acouple of years, not being able to provide new books to extend the series for a couple more seasons.
You only have some key scenes that he provided you with, and a plotline of everything else and a script of the last episode. So the whole thing is in danger of being unfinished, and people making decisions started to look at it like the first attempt of Lord of the Rings, that resulted in 'Willow' being made, instead, when they just stopped the project.
You get 2 Seasons (13 Episodes) to wrap the thing up and get on with the spinoffs.
They had a kind of outline until the white walkers are killed, and then had to pretty much had to reverse engineer the end towards the battle at winterfell.
It all came down to not enough time for too much plot left over after the battle. Most likely, GRRM had envisioned to have all the white wlker things to happen in the next book, and the march south and the fall of Kings landing, whith Danny'S character arc to be taking up the whole last book.
One book of him usually is enough for almost two seasons worth of epiodes. They had only one left for that, and with pretty much no info on it but rought outlines and the end. that's why you get the sharp turns in character, and stupid errors like overloking the whole iron fleet. Or not placing anwhere close to 20000 men into the visual golden company at the gates an the walls of Kings landing. And why they tried to make stuff look epic and cool, instead of using time for character development apart from some hints (which they used a lot, but to quick and subtle to impact the viewers and make them believe them), since that would have taken a lot of screen time with not moving the pieces forward towards the end.
If they had had a half season worth of extra episodes of setting up the march to the south between season 7 and 8, with the dragons getting ambushed at some point where Denaeris had taken then out on, say, a pleasure ride because she was stressed out (and not thinking about the iron fleet as she was in deep thought) about realizing that Jon was taking over her position by just being a born leader, the scheming of Varys and stuff, and a couple of episodes of her slowly going crazy as her insecurites and guilt fester, ending with Missandei's capture and execution, everything would be better.
Instead, we get about two or three episodes worth of Danaeris in panic as she sees her right to the throne taken from her, her lover rejecting her due to being blood related, him betraying her after she begged him in tears to support her and keep the secret, which resulted in her trusted advisors, both, betraying her and discussing and one of them even commiting treason. (And then the other did as well, releasing a prisoner). And that after a father/oedipus love figure died in her arms after fighting to keep her alive in a desperate last stand, another of her 'children' surviving a battle to then be violently assassinated whle flying along next to her an a supposedly mostly save passage south, which also resulted in her only female friend and confidant she could trust completely and without doubt (and also was a kind of lover in at least the books, if I recall correctly) to be captured, probably mistreated, and then executed right in sight, with her last wish being to 'burn them all for me'.
Stretch this out over twice the episodes with her getting more and more agressive and hostile towards everyone, and it would be a viable character arc, but then people would have complained about the show again crawling at a snail's pace, even if they were to argue the armies would take so long to march down, and they would need to wait for them (which would make Danearis more angry , as she festers in her hate and wish for revenge... and then, when all is over in a few minutes, whit relatively little bloodshed and a clean surrender, she just says 'not enough punishment' and goes off...)
But these people exhausted themselves into somehow wrapping things up in a too tight schedule(of maybe their own making, but who knows if they would have gotten another season out of HBO and the cast, who also already would have wanted to go on onother projects after 10 years), and because it was to be done in secret, couldn't really have it reviewed a couple of times by someone with an outside view, and consented that they did a passable job.
Which they did, given the circumstances. It just wasn't a great job liek the first seasons were.
To me, most of the blame for the lack of quality is on GRRM, for not getting off his ass and giving them the finished works.
The problem is that they rushed the ending of the White Walker plot, then had to engineer some new last minute conflict to fill the back half of the final season. Except they didn't. Just tying up the loose ends they had should have been enough. Anti-climactic, maybe, but at least it would have been original, to focus on what happens after Armagedon.
Honestly? Cersei should have fallen in season seven. Or, if they didn't want to do that, they should have had her death be a smaller, more personal conflict. Have Arya or Jaime or even the fucking Hound sneak in and assassinate her while Danny's army is outside the city (likely dying in the attempt). Have Yara's fleet take out Euron's, to tie up the Greyjoy civil war. Extend the White Walker war another episode, have the aftermath of the battle be a breather episode that's mostly focussed on sorting out the new/remaining character dynamics while everyone recovers from the war, have the final episode be the assassination of Cersei/Greyjoy civil war/coronation of whoever's left. If you must get Danny out of the way for Jon, or just don't want them co-ruling, have one of them die heroically fighting White Walkers. Or, hell, assaulting King's Landing in the finale. Even kill both of them off (one against the Walkers, one in a reckless grief fueled attack on King's Landing's scorpions), taking both dragons with them, and end the series on an ambiguous note, as the kingdom fragments into new realms and we don't really know what the post-armaggedon world will look like.
Any of these would be better than what they're doing. Just don't try to fit in as many fandom cliches as you can in the last few episodes. Pandering is never a compliment.