Slavery in Star Wars

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Re: Slavery in Star Wars

Post by KraytKing » 2018-09-01 03:33pm

The point I'm trying to make is that the GAR is completely unlike any military to have ever existed, in that it functions exactly like an army of robots, but made of meat. One Legends source refers to them as "wet droids." They are treated wholly differently to volunteer or conscript armies, because there is no consideration for their psychological well being. They don't need it, or they do, and don't get it, and break down.

Republic citizenry only ever sees them in armor, so they physically look like droids. There should be no crack in this propaganda wall. They are soldiers, that is their life, and that is all they will ever need.

The majority of travel time in Star Wars is spent in hyperspace, so I'm not sure where this notion of "constantly under threat of annihilation" is coming from. They are much better off than real world military in that respect. They have a physically guaranteed safe zone.
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Re: Slavery in Star Wars

Post by NecronLord » 2018-09-01 03:40pm

Again, you can say that is what they are but that's not what is depicted in the Clone Wars.
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Re: Slavery in Star Wars

Post by Zixinus » 2018-09-01 05:21pm

A vehicle going from orbit to landing has several hours (at least) during which it can be shot at by everything from orbital defenses (hopefully not active but war never allows for such comfortable rules) to a bot with a big enough gun on the ground.

The idea that the clones were seen, and should only have been seen, purely as wetware droids seems to be your idea. I can't recall people seeing them or the public treating them as such (although we don't see much perspective on how the general republic citizen, especially how they regarded the clones). If anything, that they were organic and human was supposed to be a positive thing when compared to their actually droid enemies. Not just form the perspective of organic-vs-synthetic, but from an approachability standpoint. That your soldiers are capable of empathy would be bonus point from a propaganda standpoint.
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Re: Slavery in Star Wars

Post by Batman » 2018-09-01 05:44pm

Where do you get 'hours' from? It's usually less than 10 minutes from surface to lightspeed and the other way round.
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Re: Slavery in Star Wars

Post by KraytKing » 2018-09-02 03:08pm

Okay, I'll concede. My position relies too much on my own conjecture. I must say, I like my own version of the Clone Wars and the corruption of the Jedi much more than what Lucasfilm tried to pull, but this is a fact-based argument I got myself into.

I think that the uncomfortable transit period refers more to time on the Acclamators after a battle, not headed into it. Two entirely different forms of stress.
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Re: Slavery in Star Wars

Post by FaxModem1 » 2018-09-14 10:52pm

Anyway, getting back to the, you know, actual slaves. The ones who are actually referred to as such in the canon. What's the best way for the franchise to handle this? Could they make a Star Wars Spartacus movie? Would it be better to have something else theme wise?

Would it be better to just be ignored and be a random side element that occasionally shows up in Star Wars media?
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Re: Slavery in Star Wars

Post by The Romulan Republic » 2018-09-14 11:09pm

Spartacus meets Star Wars would be amazing.
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Re: Slavery in Star Wars

Post by NecronLord » 2018-09-16 09:04am

With the coda that I would strongly prefer the slaves to actually win.
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Re: Slavery in Star Wars

Post by The Romulan Republic » 2018-09-19 10:41pm

Yes. I generally prefer my Star Wars reasonably optimistic- Rogue One is about as far as I'd like to see the films go towards being "dark".
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Re: Slavery in Star Wars

Post by Batman » 2018-09-20 04:22pm

Rogue One and the Prequels were acceptable because we already knew the Good Guys would win in the end.
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Re: Slavery in Star Wars

Post by KraytKing » 2018-09-20 04:33pm

I could stand for a bit more grittiness and realism in Star Wars, from time to time. Say, if they do end up making a Fett movie, or anything else concerning the Underworld. Also, maybe an Imperial atrocity here or there to show what they're actually fighting against, other than the rather abstract notion of Sith rule.

The current movies are just too light to be taken seriously.
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Re: Slavery in Star Wars

Post by NecronLord » 2018-09-20 05:54pm



I still love this. Particularly the Jedi killing absolutely all the slavers as an example for others. :luv:
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