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On Friday, 13th I defended my Dr.-Ing. thesis (about equivalent to Ph.D.). Finally.

I have to wait a bit until I get my diploma, but then you all have to call me "Herr Doktor Schneider".

Just kidding (about the latter part)!!!

I hope that, as far as my job allows, I will have more time for Trek, for my site and for the message board than in the previous few weeks.
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The thesis is about the development of image sensors with wide dynamic range and high resolution.
http://scn.infopop.net/0/OpenTopic?a=tp ... 8300918245

Is there anyone who knows something about the German system of education?
What is a "Dr.-Ing."? Doctor of Engineering? :?:

BTW check out this thread at EAS.
It would appear that they have a rather serious fundie infestation there. One of the greatest things about Trek has always been the way it treats religions (I just love McCoy's line in STII about Genesis being a myth), ST's attitude was undoubtedly influenced by the fact that Roddenberry was an "active" atheist and these dumb-fundie-trekkie-fucks are mocking him because of it. :x :evil:

AAAAAAARGHHHHHHH!!!! Check this out. There are creationist at EAS, even as moderators it woud appear.
Those people are vile...there pissing all over Roddenberry's legacy. :cry:
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Sir Sirius wrote:What is a "Dr.-Ing."? Doctor of Engineering? :?:
It probably is short for "doctoring"
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I've never heard of EAS before.

A quick glance shows that it's not nearly as pathetic as many other message boards (sci-fi dedicated or not) that I have seen. I even saw several posters utilizing proper grammar, spelling, punctuation, and capitalization. That alone garners them a plus in my book.
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(I just love McCoy's line in STII about Genesis being a myth)
Hardly surprising really considering thats what it is, its not like its the only thing in trek that would annoy Fundies.
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Really people, if you wanted to know what Bernd has doctored in, you can just do a Google search, I believe this is indeed him, here

It's translated from German, this is what it says under study:
Study:
Study of computer science at the University of Dortmund, emphasis of information systems and artificial intelligence, particularly learning procedures.
Nebenfach management economics, emphasis operating computer science.

So it would seem to me Bernd is a PhD in computers and IT, why this has been such a secret(atleast it has appeared as such) I do not know, but there it is.
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I should note that this might not be correct, there seems to be many a schneiders hanging around :P

Maybe Bernd would be so kind as to tell us himself what he's a Doctor in?
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It is not correct, according to the FAQ on Ex Astris Scientia Bernd studied at the University of Siegen, not at the University of Dortmund as the link you posted claims (different Bernd probably).
And according to the same page he studied electrical engineering.

So what is a "Dr.-Ing."? Does anyone have any idea?

Ex Astris Scientia is however one of the best ST site's there is, so the guy is doing something right.
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Interestingly MW is listed on the acknowledgment list:
"Mike Wong (yes, really!), "
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I think I've found Bernd's thesis
At least it was writen by a Bernd Scheider and is about visual sensors, the same subject he mentioned at SCN.

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First we're "The Forum That Dares Not Speak It's Name" on SB, and now this? People must think we all sit around lighting votive candles in front of our Wong shrine and have passages from the Holy ICS carved into our PC casings. :roll:
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First we're "The Forum That Dares Not Speak It's Name" on SB, and now this? People must think we all sit around lighting votive candles in front of our Wong shrine and have passages from the Holy ICS carved into our PC casings.
You mean you don't?! :shock:

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People must think we all sit around lighting votive candles in front of our Wong shrine and have passages from the Holy ICS carved into our PC casings.
Well, I can never keep it straight, myself. Are WE the guys with stars on our belly, or are THEY?
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I can't stop laughing at the number of people who truly HATE Mike Wong. As far as I can tell, the man has done nothing but logically analyze a series of science fiction universes, and discuss their merits and technologies to the best of his ability.

I can't begin to understand what the PROBLEM of most of his detractors are, outside of raw stubborn jealousy that he holds the high ground, and their 'fan favourites' can't measure up.
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"Dr.-Ing."

It means he has a doctorate in Engineering.
If a doctorate in the US is the same as in Germany - which it should be.
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Lagmonster wrote:I can't stop laughing at the number of people who truly HATE Mike Wong.
They accuse anyone who agrees with me of thinking I'm God. What they fail to realize is that by their conduct, they reveal that they obviously think I'm the Devil.
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anarchistbunny wrote:Seems that the folks at Furry Conflict are at it too.

http://www.furryconflict.com/bbs/topic. ... topic=1189

Pretty much saying that Wong and G2k are on the same level and are idiots because they can't let both SW and ST be equal. Dipshits.
Frankly, the people I've seen there are SOOO stupid as to be not worth our time. With G2K, it's different because he actually tries to present a case. The people on that site don't even bother. They just assume that the two sides are equal and leave it at that. Their complaints about Mike are ludicrous, and their debating style is a pathetic mixture of "WAAAAH! They must be equal," and "Star [Trek or Warz] wins cuz the other one sucks."
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Lagmonster wrote:I can't stop laughing at the number of people who truly HATE Mike Wong. As far as I can tell, the man has done nothing but logically analyze a series of science fiction universes, and discuss their merits and technologies to the best of his ability.

I can't begin to understand what the PROBLEM of most of his detractors are, outside of raw stubborn jealousy that he holds the high ground, and their 'fan favourites' can't measure up.
That's true. That's a great point. I had never thought of it that way. I seriously hadn't. Mike hasn't done a damn thing except to analyze the two different universes from a scientific perspective, and they DO hate the man for it.
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Darth Wong wrote:They accuse anyone who agrees with me of thinking I'm God. What they fail to realize is that by their conduct, they reveal that they obviously think I'm the Devil.
Actually, that bothers me. It really does. I don't mean anything against Mike, but I don't want to be lumped in as a dogmatic follower of the man himself.

I could, and have, watched the movies and performed ALL OF THE CALCULATIONS FOR MYSELF. Mike's just gone one step farther and published them online. But I needn't ever have seen his site to arrive at the same conclusions he has. It's like being a rabid follower of Bill Gates just because I could program Windows from the ground up, or a rabid follower of Betty Crocker because I can make pancakes from scratch.

Dammit, I want the rabid Trekkies to recognize me as my own individual kind of devil!
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Actually, I think it reveals something about their own mentality that they accuse anyone who agrees with me of mindlessly "following the leader". If that's the first thing that pops into mind, what does that say about them?
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I say it reveals they need a devil to fight against just to fulfill their own ego.
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Sir Sirius wrote:AAAAAAARGHHHHHHH!!!! Check this out. There are creationist at EAS, even as moderators it woud appear.
Those people are vile...there pissing all over Roddenberry's legacy. :cry:
Of course there are creationists there. The website espouses a manifestly unscientific way of looking at things; why would its forums be any different?
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I bare responcibility for the whole thing starting. When asked to rate the site of theirs i made an arse out of myself. I appologise and if the board wishes i will leave SD.net.
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Darth Pounder wrote:I bare responcibility for the whole thing starting. When asked to rate the site of theirs i made an arse out of myself. I appologise and if the board wishes i will leave SD.net.
Bah. While you're no paragon of virtue in these matters, it's not like they'd be any less of a communal ass without us to direct their rage at.
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Darth Pounder wrote:I bare responcibility for the whole thing starting. When asked to rate the site of theirs i made an arse out of myself. I appologise and if the board wishes i will leave SD.net.
It's hardly your fault that the site author has been trash-talking me for years, or that their board is so unapologetically irrational that they think creationism is a scientific theory. You went overboard, but it's a forgivable offense.
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