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Welcome back to the board!

Posted: 2026-03-21 07:00am
by bobalot
That's it.

Also, fuck whoever DDOSed the board.

Re: Welcome back to the board!

Posted: 2026-03-21 11:43am
by LadyTevar
I'm still wondering WTF they'd DDOS **THIS** Board.

Re: Welcome back to the board!

Posted: 2026-03-21 11:55am
by bilateralrope
LadyTevar wrote: 2026-03-21 11:43am I'm still wondering WTF they'd DDOS **THIS** Board.
Could be all those AI companies checking the board far too often for new data to shovel into their AIs. I've seen articles about that causing problems elsewhere.

Re: Welcome back to the board!

Posted: 2026-03-22 12:48am
by bobalot
bilateralrope wrote: 2026-03-21 11:55am
LadyTevar wrote: 2026-03-21 11:43am I'm still wondering WTF they'd DDOS **THIS** Board.
Could be all those AI companies checking the board far too often for new data to shovel into their AIs. I've seen articles about that causing problems elsewhere.
That might explain the number of visitors being "40550 on Mon Mar 17, 2025 8:08 am".

Another thing "AI" has ruined.

Re: Welcome back to the board!

Posted: 2026-03-22 05:45pm
by Alferd Packer
bilateralrope wrote: 2026-03-21 11:55am
LadyTevar wrote: 2026-03-21 11:43am I'm still wondering WTF they'd DDOS **THIS** Board.
Could be all those AI companies checking the board far too often for new data to shovel into their AIs. I've seen articles about that causing problems elsewhere.
It is 100% this. Other less-than-active forums from my youth of which I'm a member see the same thing happen, and one admin said it was an AI company scraping the whole forum.

In that forum's case, I question how effective a model will be trained if it's based on hundreds of thousands of posts from two decades ago, consisting largely of teenagers arguing about politics and calling each other homophobic slurs, but what do I know.

Re: Welcome back to the board!

Posted: 2026-03-22 07:45pm
by Lord Revan
I was wondering why the board was down granted never considered DDOS.

Re: Welcome back to the board!

Posted: 2026-03-23 09:13am
by bobalot
Alferd Packer wrote: 2026-03-22 05:45pm
bilateralrope wrote: 2026-03-21 11:55am
LadyTevar wrote: 2026-03-21 11:43am I'm still wondering WTF they'd DDOS **THIS** Board.
Could be all those AI companies checking the board far too often for new data to shovel into their AIs. I've seen articles about that causing problems elsewhere.
It is 100% this. Other less-than-active forums from my youth of which I'm a member see the same thing happen, and one admin said it was an AI company scraping the whole forum.

In that forum's case, I question how effective a model will be trained if it's based on hundreds of thousands of posts from two decades ago, consisting largely of teenagers arguing about politics and calling each other homophobic slurs, but what do I know.
AI is largely useless and makes no money.

Re: Welcome back to the board!

Posted: 2026-03-23 04:02pm
by bilateralrope
Alferd Packer wrote: 2026-03-22 05:45pm
In that forum's case, I question how effective a model will be trained if it's based on hundreds of thousands of posts from two decades ago, consisting largely of teenagers arguing about politics and calling each other homophobic slurs, but what do I know.
No need to question the effectiveness of LLMs. It is already well demonstrated by things like:
- Regular hallucinations. Like all the lawyers getting in trouble for filing an LLM written document to the court that cites cases that do not exist.
- Failing to correctly count the number of r's in strawberry


Right now, they are in the most dangerous stage of any level of automation. When they get things right often enough that people stop checking to make sure they are doing things correctly. Leading to a lot of nasty surprises.

Re: Welcome back to the board!

Posted: 2026-03-23 05:33pm
by EnterpriseSovereign
Even though I first heard this phrase with relation to AI-enhanced CVs, it actually applies to anything written with AI: "own every word", i.e. check everything it's written, instead of just assuming it's perfect. "To err is human, but to really foul things up you need a computer" :mrgreen:

Re: Welcome back to the board!

Posted: 2026-03-23 11:13pm
by LadyTevar
EnterpriseSovereign wrote: 2026-03-23 05:33pm Even though I first heard this phrase with relation to AI-enhanced CVs, it actually applies to anything written with AI: "own every word", i.e. check everything it's written, instead of just assuming it's perfect. "To err is human, but to really foul things up you need a computer" :mrgreen:
I've not heard that saying in a long time :mrgreen:

Re: Welcome back to the board!

Posted: 2026-03-24 04:40pm
by EnterpriseSovereign
LadyTevar wrote: 2026-03-23 11:13pm
EnterpriseSovereign wrote: 2026-03-23 05:33pm Even though I first heard this phrase with relation to AI-enhanced CVs, it actually applies to anything written with AI: "own every word", i.e. check everything it's written, instead of just assuming it's perfect. "To err is human, but to really foul things up you need a computer" :mrgreen:
I've not heard that saying in a long time :mrgreen:
Nor have I, I will admit I had to look it up to remind myself of the exact wording but it's even more relevant now than when it was first uttered more than fifty years ago.

Like the story I've been working on I often have the AI generate a dozen iterations as I refine the instructions each time since no single one is completely perfect. :lol:

Re: Welcome back to the board!

Posted: 2026-03-24 05:03pm
by Batman
'Perfect' is the mortal enemy of 'good enough'.
The 'to err is human but to really foul things up' thing actually seems to predate computers, I've seen this used with 'lawyers' and 'politicians', too.

Re: Welcome back to the board!

Posted: 2026-03-24 05:11pm
by EnterpriseSovereign
Batman wrote: 2026-03-24 05:03pm 'Perfect' is the mortal enemy of 'good enough'.
The 'to err is human but to really foul things up' thing actually seems to predate computers, I've seen this used with 'lawyers' and 'politicians', too.
Reminds me of the old joke where a doctor, an architect and a politician are arguing over whose profession was the oldest:
The doctor said Eve was created from Adam's rib, which was a surgical procedure
The architect said that before that, order was created from chaos, which was a form of architecture
The politician said that somebody created the chaos first :mrgreen:

Re: Welcome back to the board!

Posted: 2026-03-28 05:15am
by bobalot
EnterpriseSovereign wrote: 2026-03-24 05:11pm
Batman wrote: 2026-03-24 05:03pm 'Perfect' is the mortal enemy of 'good enough'.
The 'to err is human but to really foul things up' thing actually seems to predate computers, I've seen this used with 'lawyers' and 'politicians', too.
Reminds me of the old joke where a doctor, an architect and a politician are arguing over whose profession was the oldest:
The doctor said Eve was created from Adam's rib, which was a surgical procedure
The architect said that before that, order was created from chaos, which was a form of architecture
The politician said that somebody created the chaos first :mrgreen:
Need a new one to cover AI.

Re: Welcome back to the board!

Posted: 2026-03-28 10:14am
by EnterpriseSovereign
bobalot wrote: 2026-03-28 05:15am
EnterpriseSovereign wrote: 2026-03-24 05:11pm
Batman wrote: 2026-03-24 05:03pm 'Perfect' is the mortal enemy of 'good enough'.
The 'to err is human but to really foul things up' thing actually seems to predate computers, I've seen this used with 'lawyers' and 'politicians', too.
Reminds me of the old joke where a doctor, an architect and a politician are arguing over whose profession was the oldest:
The doctor said Eve was created from Adam's rib, which was a surgical procedure
The architect said that before that, order was created from chaos, which was a form of architecture
The politician said that somebody created the chaos first :mrgreen:
Need a new one to cover AI.
You mean swap the politician for a robot? :lol:

Re: Welcome back to the board!

Posted: 2026-03-30 08:14am
by Broomstick
Honestly, I was wondering if the board had ceased to exist.

Re: Welcome back to the board!

Posted: 2026-03-30 05:16pm
by EnterpriseSovereign
Broomstick wrote: 2026-03-30 08:14am Honestly, I was wondering if the board had ceased to exist.
Nice to see you again, we were worried you had ceased to exist :oops:

Re: Welcome back to the board!

Posted: 2026-03-30 08:23pm
by bobalot
Broomstick wrote: 2026-03-30 08:14am Honestly, I was wondering if the board had ceased to exist.
I wonder if it is worth exploring if this board could be archived.

Re: Welcome back to the board!

Posted: 2026-03-31 01:02am
by LadyTevar
bobalot wrote: 2026-03-30 08:23pm
Broomstick wrote: 2026-03-30 08:14am Honestly, I was wondering if the board had ceased to exist.
I wonder if it is worth exploring if this board could be archived.
I understand a couple people are exploring that possibility.

Re: Welcome back to the board!

Posted: 2026-04-02 05:00am
by bobalot
It's a pity that the recent Disney Star Wars movies were a bit of a bomb.

They don't really have the same technical focus, issues, etc. that were the subject of online discussions. It may have resulted in more people coming to the board.

Re: Welcome back to the board!

Posted: 2026-04-02 06:47pm
by LadyTevar
bobalot wrote: 2026-04-02 05:00am It's a pity that the recent Disney Star Wars movies were a bit of a bomb.

They don't really have the same technical focus, issues, etc. that were the subject of online discussions. It may have resulted in more people coming to the board.
Agreed.

And while this gets repeated often on the SDN Discord media forum, I'm going to put it bluntly here. The new Movies were directly cribbed from the Original Trilogy, and then horribly mutated by the scriptwriters and further mangled by the series of Directors.

Re: Welcome back to the board!

Posted: 2026-04-02 08:46pm
by bobalot
The new Star Wars and Star Trek (with a few notable exceptions like Andor) have gone corporate and bland.