Looks gorgeous, as usual. I wonder if they're hinting at a Cersei/Danaerys/Jon grand alliance against the White Walkers.
Trailer music reminds me a bit of Fury Road. This makes me happy.
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Or rather will be returned to the rightful Lord, Tyrion.Ziggy Stardust wrote:Considering one of the scenes in the trailer shows the Unsullied entering either Lannisport or Casterley Rock, it doesn't seem like Lannister lands will remain so for long.
Which also represents a final defeat from beyond the grave for Tywin.Crazedwraith wrote:Or rather will be returned to the rightful Lord, Tyrion.Ziggy Stardust wrote:Considering one of the scenes in the trailer shows the Unsullied entering either Lannisport or Casterley Rock, it doesn't seem like Lannister lands will remain so for long.
FaxModem1 wrote:Knowing George RR Martin, I wouldn't be surprised if it all ends in utter death and destruction, with Westeros eventually being nothing but ruins as the White Walkers kill everyone. I don't think Dany and Jon MIGHT be able to ally with each other against the White Walkers, but this isn't that kind of show. It'll be nothing but everyone dying.
Martin might be grim enough to set that up, but it's debatable whether the show writers would. That said, the White Walkers took their shot once and were beaten back by a united front. It wouldn't surprised me if they have issues dealing with temperate weather for an extended time either way. Then again, I actually have little idea about GoT Winters. Are we talking freezing temps all the way down to King's Landing?FaxModem1 wrote:Knowing George RR Martin, I wouldn't be surprised if it all ends in utter death and destruction, with Westeros eventually being nothing but ruins as the White Walkers kill everyone. I don't think Dany and Jon MIGHT be able to ally with each other against the White Walkers, but this isn't that kind of show. It'll be nothing but everyone dying.
Can't it be both? Does Cersei silly so her eyes roll back in her head, and the final thrusts are a dagger into her heart, and then a dagger into his own.RogueIce wrote:What I want to know is, will Jamie ultimately choose that inner nobility that keeps trying to crawl out, or decide that twincest really is wincest for him?
It's debatable based on this scene at around the 5:20 minute mark:Terralthra wrote:Cersei was stoked about marrying Robert Baratheon because it meant her children would rule the Kingdom, and she'd get to be near Jaime (already Kingsguard). She and Jaime were leaning towards incest in puberty. That's part of why Tywin sent Jaime away from Casterly Rock in the first place.
I think she's more determined and 'I'm not taking shit from anyone anymore' then 'mad'. She has more force to bring to bare then her family did the first time they conquered Westros. She's also faced more then her ancestors did. She been part of a Dothraki horde (and then cowed the Dothraki as a race), faced down and defeated Warlocks, survived assassination attempts, been betrayed (by the blood magi), and finally conquered and then crushed Slavers Bay.FaxModem1 wrote:Is Dany really becoming a mad Queen? Tyrion talking to her and getting her to see reason was sort of a recurring thing for last season. She has a big picture in her mind, and Tyrion is good at moving things into place (as long as he has a power base). Worst we've seen her do is crucify slavers who crucified children themselves. That's really nothing compared to the Boltons.
Though I could be wrong, and she's planning on burning all of Westeros down as soon as someone doesn't bend the knee.
But that was only after the first one died, and she realized what a piece of shit Robert really was.Terralthra wrote:I don't know if or how show-canon differs, but in the books, she definitely made sure not to bear any of Rob's children, deliberately.
An Angry Queen then!Solauren wrote:I think she's more determined and 'I'm not taking shit from anyone anymore' then 'mad'.FaxModem1 wrote:Is Dany really becoming a mad Queen? Tyrion talking to her and getting her to see reason was sort of a recurring thing for last season. She has a big picture in her mind, and Tyrion is good at moving things into place (as long as he has a power base). Worst we've seen her do is crucify slavers who crucified children themselves. That's really nothing compared to the Boltons.
Though I could be wrong, and she's planning on burning all of Westeros down as soon as someone doesn't bend the knee.
Not according to the books. In the books, she fucked Jaime the morning of her wedding to Robert, and when Robert called her Lyanna on their first night, she was donesies. The one time Robert impregnated her, she made Jaime get her an abortifacient, and made sure it never happened again.Solauren wrote:But that was only after the first one died, and she realized what a piece of shit Robert really was.Terralthra wrote:I don't know if or how show-canon differs, but in the books, she definitely made sure not to bear any of Rob's children, deliberately.