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Postby Lonestar » 2003-06-24 02:34pm

Aya wrote:Mar-Vell was another.


At least until the Earth X miniseries came along.

But Gwen Stacy stayed dead.

Except that Fucking clone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Postby The Yosemite Bear » 2003-06-24 02:34pm

Yeah, when two genders start going to war, rely only on cloning and uber tech to replenish their numbers and gene condition themselves it get's wierd. So what's the story with the "Thangarians" haven't heard from Hawkworld in ages even if it always seemed something of a flash gordon rip off to me.
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Postby Ghost Rider » 2003-06-24 02:36pm

Aw ZShade...who doesn't love Star Sapphire :P ?

Just because she's a man-hating/sex starved evil witch with a bad GL motif.

And yeah JT ain't coming back...and haven't healed Babs' legs either(which is astounding they keep that angle)
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Postby Ghost Rider » 2003-06-24 02:38pm

The Yosemite Bear wrote:Yeah, when two genders start going to war, rely only on cloning and uber tech to replenish their numbers and gene condition themselves it get's wierd. So what's the story with the "Thangarians" haven't heard from Hawkworld in ages even if it always seemed something of a flash gordon rip off to me.


They did the efficent thing.

Killed off 50%+ and then resurrected the original Hawkman...and maybe one day they'll go back to Thanagar.

Maybe...For the Longest time they pretty much ignored it...DC editors actually sent back a different form letter because how bad they fucked up.
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Postby Jason von Evil » 2003-06-24 02:41pm

Isn't Babs a lesbian now?

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Postby ZShade » 2003-06-24 02:48pm

Ghost Rider wrote:Aw ZShade...who doesn't love Star Sapphire :P ?

Just because she's a man-hating/sex starved evil witch with a bad GL motif.

And yeah JT ain't coming back...and haven't healed Babs' legs either(which is astounding they keep that angle)


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Er, almost all of them, anyway.

And I can't believe I forgot about Jason Todd being blown up. That was one of the better Bat stories.
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Postby Ghost Rider » 2003-06-24 02:51pm

Aya wrote:Isn't Babs a lesbian now?


Nah...BoP goes iffy...Nightwing says nay

And Canary digs Ollie.
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Postby MKSheppard » 2003-06-24 02:51pm

ZShade wrote:And I can't believe I forgot about Jason Todd being blown up. That was one of the better Bat stories.


The best bat stories came around in the 1970s, and I didn't know Todd was
blown up until last night's history channel special on comic book heroes,
where they told all about the call in for readers to kill/save Jason - he lost
by 73 votes and got killed :P
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Postby ZShade » 2003-06-24 02:53pm

MKSheppard wrote:Ah I thought that he had resurrected the blue fucks from the dead....oops...
And didn't Ganthet merge with Hal in the crappy end of the Hal Jordan/Kyle Raynor bitchfight?


Ganthet got out of Hal's head shortly before Parallax died. He then proceeded to do... well, nothing. He was living up to the standards of the other Guardians, I suppose.
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Postby Jason von Evil » 2003-06-24 02:54pm

MKSheppard wrote:
ZShade wrote:And I can't believe I forgot about Jason Todd being blown up. That was one of the better Bat stories.


The best bat stories came around in the 1970s, and I didn't know Todd was
blown up until last night's history channel special on comic book heroes,
where they told all about the call in for readers to kill/save Jason - he lost
by 73 votes and got killed :P


72 votes. :P

Anyone else watch that special? It was pretty good. I never knew that Gaiman and Miller looked like.
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Postby Demiurge » 2003-06-24 02:54pm

Aya wrote:Jason Todd.


Bruce Wayne's parents.

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Postby MKSheppard » 2003-06-24 02:58pm

You know, I wanted John Henry Irons to become the new Superman, but no,
they had to revive the big S himself :roll:
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Postby Ghost Rider » 2003-06-24 03:03pm

Hell that was going to done the first time they annouced his supposed death.

Literally Carlin admitted they keep the titles with the NAMES...was a big give away.
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Postby Jason von Evil » 2003-06-24 03:55pm

MKSheppard wrote:You know, I wanted John Henry Irons to become the new Superman, but no,
they had to revive the big S himself :roll:


You wanted a DC version of Iron Man? If Superboy lost the jacket and shades, he would've been a worthy successor.
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Postby MKSheppard » 2003-06-24 03:59pm

Aya wrote:You wanted a DC version of Iron Man? If Superboy lost the jacket and shades, he would've been a worthy successor.


Well, did you ever see the issue where Superboy is a twat and dodges fire that
causes a Daily Planet chopper to get hit, killing the pilot?

JHI saves Louis Lane and proceeds to chew the living fuck out of Superclone.
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Postby --Leia-- » 2003-06-24 04:05pm

I just recently got back into collecting comics. I used to collect Witchblade, The Darkness, and Ascension.

Now I collect Star Wars tpb. I find those are easier to store.
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Postby justifier » 2003-06-24 04:09pm

Kelly Antilles wrote:But, I have to say that the artwork on the X-series comics has gone so far downhill. It's like they just slap something together to get the book out.


All of Marvel's arkwork has been going downhill, its gottten too abstract. I picked up a new Punisher the other day and it looked like shit, I'll stay with my old issues of Punisher: War Journal thankyouverymuch!

I started collecting this new series from a small company though, its called Stormwatch, its about an international anti-superhuman task force, its really good.
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Postby MKSheppard » 2003-06-24 04:18pm

justifier wrote:All of Marvel's arkwork has been going downhill, its gottten too abstract. I picked up a new Punisher the other day and it looked like shit, I'll stay with my old issues of Punisher: War Journal thankyouverymuch


The graphics quality of the Punisher seems to have taken a hit down with
this new artist they're trying out. BRING DILLION BACK!
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Postby justifier » 2003-06-24 04:22pm

MKSheppard wrote:
justifier wrote:All of Marvel's arkwork has been going downhill, its gottten too abstract. I picked up a new Punisher the other day and it looked like shit, I'll stay with my old issues of Punisher: War Journal thankyouverymuch


The graphics quality of the Punisher seems to have taken a hit down with
this new artist they're trying out. BRING DILLION BACK!

Go crawling on your hands and knees and bring Jim Lee back!
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Postby --Leia-- » 2003-06-24 04:25pm

Jim Lee is one of the best comic artists I've ever seen. Marc Silvestri is my favorite though.
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Postby Jason von Evil » 2003-06-24 04:26pm

MKSheppard wrote:
Aya wrote:You wanted a DC version of Iron Man? If Superboy lost the jacket and shades, he would've been a worthy successor.


Well, did you ever see the issue where Superboy is a twat and dodges fire that
causes a Daily Planet chopper to get hit, killing the pilot?

JHI saves Louis Lane and proceeds to chew the living fuck out of Superclone.


It's Lois.:P

Superboy actually isn't a clone of Supes though. The scientist at STAR claimed that they couldn't clone Krypton DNA, so their director cloned himself, but altered the DNA to make him look like a young Supes. They also somehow gave him a "Superman aura".

One problem though: If they couldn't clone Superman, then where the hell did the Cyborg's flesh side come from?
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Postby LadyTevar » 2003-06-24 04:35pm

Aya wrote:Superboy actually isn't a clone of Supes though. The scientist at STAR claimed that they couldn't clone Krypton DNA, so their director cloned himself, but altered the DNA to make him look like a young Supes. They also somehow gave him a "Superman aura".

One problem though: If they couldn't clone Superman, then where the hell did the Cyborg's flesh side come from?


The Cyborg was a human scientist (hank someone?) who joined with Superman's Birth Matrix (The spaceship he arrived on Earth in). Thus, only the metal bits are/were Kryptonian, iirc.
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Postby ZShade » 2003-06-24 04:36pm

No, his fleshie bits were cloned from Supe's DNA. I forget how though. Those two had history together, and Hank Whathisname hated Supes, though again, I forget. Time to go Googling.
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Postby Ghost Rider » 2003-06-24 04:41pm

Actually Hank Henshaw/Cyborg...found the Kryptonian birthing Matrix Zshade...thus acquired the DNA for Supes.
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Postby ZShade » 2003-06-24 04:42pm

Ah, there we go. Hank Henshaw was a disembodied human mind who could travel between and control electronics. At one point, he got inside the ship that brought Supes to Earth, and asborbed Kryptonian tech, including the ability to clone Clark's DNA. So, when he posed as the Cyborg Superman, he was half Clark, and half Kryptonian android.
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