SDN World 3 Commentary Thread I

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SDN World 3 Commentary Thread I

Postby Steve » 2009-11-07 10:42am

Okay, NPC conversation goes here. This is also where I will issue dictates to the peasa.... to the players, yeah. :mrgreen: :twisted:

Time for dreadnoughts. 8)
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Re: SDN World 3 Commentary Thread I

Postby DarthShady » 2009-11-07 10:44am

Alright Gentlemen, I'm taking bets now. :D

My money is on "war starts within a week". Who's in? :lol:

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Re: SDN World 3 Commentary Thread I

Postby Steve » 2009-11-07 10:55am

Frigidmagi from LibArc bet on no less than three world wars by 1936.
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Re: SDN World 3 Commentary Thread I

Postby Thanas » 2009-11-07 11:39am

DarthShady wrote:Alright Gentlemen, I'm taking bets now. :D

My money is on "war starts within a week". Who's in? :lol:


War has already started. See Story thread.
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Re: SDN World 3 Commentary Thread I

Postby Steve » 2009-11-07 11:40am

That? That's not war. That's just Shep and Lonestar exchanging love taps. :mrgreen:

Heavy love taps. Somethin' not right with dem boys, I tell ya. :wink:
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Re: SDN World 3 Commentary Thread I

Postby Mr Bean » 2009-11-07 11:57am

I need to get my fleet order worked up, something I hoped to do yesterday. Anyone have any ideas for a massive useless Boondoggle I can run? I'm thinking of announcing I'm laying down the world first Super-Dreadnaught with something crazy like a twenty four gun ship 16inch ship (Four back, four forward of trio guns) with a top speed of sixteen knots or so. Not a new class but a new ship. But is that crazy enough? Remember it's a Prestige project.

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Re: SDN World 3 Commentary Thread I

Postby Bluewolf » 2009-11-07 12:17pm

I am afraid to say that I may be potentially dropping out of this game, something has gone wrong and It may stop me from playing. I am sorry for the trouble I have caused asking people stuff etc.

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Re: SDN World 3 Commentary Thread I

Postby Steve » 2009-11-07 12:20pm

Mr Bean wrote:I need to get my fleet order worked up, something I hoped to do yesterday. Anyone have any ideas for a massive useless Boondoggle I can run? I'm thinking of announcing I'm laying down the world first Super-Dreadnaught with something crazy like a twenty four gun ship 16inch ship (Four back, four forward of trio guns) with a top speed of sixteen knots or so. Not a new class but a new ship. But is that crazy enough? Remember it's a Prestige project.


...hrm. Not sure how that'd work. And it can't be over 50kT Standard so you might need something like a really slow 12 18" gun ship to be a "prestige project".
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Re: SDN World 3 Commentary Thread I

Postby Fingolfin_Noldor » 2009-11-07 12:22pm

Assuming he can even lob off a full broadside, without something cracking here and there. Most of the 18" designs seem to demand at least more than 50 KTonnes unless one wants to compromise on armor.
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Re: SDN World 3 Commentary Thread I

Postby Raj Ahten » 2009-11-07 01:07pm

I've been working on my fleet list and I'd like to get people's opinions on if this is a logical setup.

-60 Clemson class Destroyers (1215 tons each)
-3 Carlisle class light cruisers (4200 tons each)
-3 Caledon class light cruisers (4180 tons each)
-7 Danae class light cruisers (4850 tons each)
-12 R-Boat subs (578 tons each)
-20 S-Boat subs (American version, 906 tons each)
-4 Aoba class heavy cruisers (7100 tons each)
-4 Myoko class heavy cruisers (10160 tons each)
-4 Blucher class heavy cruisers (possible, if Thanas gives me the go ahead)
-2 New York class Battleships (27,200 tons each)
-2 Nevada class Battleships (27500 tons each)
-1 Pennsylvania class Battleship (21400 tons)
-2 New Mexico class Battleships (32000 tons each)
-2 Tennessee class Battleships (32000 tons each)
-2 Colorado class Battleships (32600 tons each)
-4 South Dakota class Battleships (43200 tons each)
-2 Bismarck class Battleships (again, if Thanas gives me the go ahead)
-1 Lexington class Carrier (38746)
-277488 tons for oilers, sub tenders, minesweepers, etc.

Note: All the weights are from Wikipedia, so they might very well be wrong. If someone has access to better sources please let me have it if necessary.

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Re: SDN World 3 Commentary Thread I

Postby Steve » 2009-11-07 01:09pm

I can guarantee Thanas probably hasn't given you any Bismarcks. And your Lexington-style converted carrier would still be in the yard being converted.
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Re: SDN World 3 Commentary Thread I

Postby Steve » 2009-11-07 01:11pm

Lascaris has brought back up the point of support troops vs. line troops. He's proposed each base division of 15,000 troops cost 25,000 in manpower due to support personnel.

Any opinions before I sign off on this?
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Re: SDN World 3 Commentary Thread I

Postby Raj Ahten » 2009-11-07 01:13pm

Siege I find it amusing that neither the assassin nor the count were using a Browning, as least after the knife attack failed. I guess things are just kind of retro at the Sultan's court :P

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Re: SDN World 3 Commentary Thread I

Postby Norseman » 2009-11-07 01:18pm

Steve wrote:Lascaris has brought back up the point of support troops vs. line troops. He's proposed each base division of 15,000 troops cost 25,000 in manpower due to support personnel.

Any opinions before I sign off on this?


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Re: SDN World 3 Commentary Thread I

Postby Siege » 2009-11-07 02:37pm

Raj Ahten wrote:Siege I find it amusing that neither the assassin nor the count were using a Browning, as least after the knife attack failed. I guess things are just kind of retro at the Sultan's court :P


The Count didn't have time to draw his Luger Parabellum, and the assassin probably planned to get out alive, and as such couldn't risk using a gun that would attract the attention of the guards. This will be a plot point later. But of course you're also right when you say the court of the Sultan is pretty retro too :D.

Steve wrote:Any opinions before I sign off on this?


Can this non-issue please go die quietly in a corner somewhere? Who in the name of the seven hells wants to calculate something as utterly irrelevant and trivial for RP purposes as how many damned support troops the army has dallying about?!
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Re: SDN World 3 Commentary Thread I

Postby Steve » 2009-11-07 03:08pm

Heh heh heh, good opinion Siege.

Yeah, I think I'm going to say support troops don't count against those totals.
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Re: SDN World 3 Commentary Thread I

Postby Setzer » 2009-11-07 04:42pm

And the war of words begins.
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Re: SDN World 3 Commentary Thread I

Postby CmdrWilkens » 2009-11-07 05:01pm

I lost track, did the Panama Canal ever get built or are the two of us (Ryan and I) racing for towards the goal of first across the line?
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Re: SDN World 3 Commentary Thread I

Postby Sea Skimmer » 2009-11-07 05:18pm

Given that both the Panama and Suez canals could have been built earlier then historical, and that SDN world 3 is hyper industrialized it would be illogical to have them not exist. In fact two Atlantic-Pacific Canals might well exist to handle heavy traffic flows. The real race would be the race to build third sets of locks which can accommodate the great beams of modern battleships, as the US would ultimately begin to build in 1940 only to cancel in 1942 after major excavation work had been done.
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Re: SDN World 3 Commentary Thread I

Postby RogueIce » 2009-11-07 05:23pm

And so the game has begun, and I have not yet begun to fight design my OOB (which will probably amount to much the same thing, really).

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Re: SDN World 3 Commentary Thread I

Postby Raj Ahten » 2009-11-07 05:46pm

RogueIce wrote:And so the game has begun, and I have not yet begun to fight design my OOB (which will probably amount to much the same thing, really).

Fucknuggets.


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Re: SDN World 3 Commentary Thread I

Postby Siege » 2009-11-07 06:03pm

The Suez Canal certainly was built, the Egyptians and Byzantines jointly financed its construction.
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Re: SDN World 3 Commentary Thread I

Postby RogueIce » 2009-11-07 06:12pm

By the by, since I control Texas, that makes Chester Nimitz not only born in my nation, but also presently serving in the US Navy, as a Commander. Thus he is mine, all mine!

This post brought to you in the effort to prevent Zor from having another retarded "Isoroku Nimitz" character. :D

Looking at Wikipedia, it appears all the five-stars were born in my part of the US. Yay!
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Re: SDN World 3 Commentary Thread I

Postby CmdrWilkens » 2009-11-07 06:41pm

Sea Skimmer wrote:Given that both the Panama and Suez canals could have been built earlier then historical, and that SDN world 3 is hyper industrialized it would be illogical to have them not exist. In fact two Atlantic-Pacific Canals might well exist to handle heavy traffic flows. The real race would be the race to build third sets of locks which can accommodate the great beams of modern battleships, as the US would ultimately begin to build in 1940 only to cancel in 1942 after major excavation work had been done.


My operating thesis has been that the Panama Canal has been built but the Rio San Juan canal has NOT been built (due to the greater length). What I need to figure out is whether Ryan has the Panama Canal as constructed or if he delayed (without US intervention securing the Canal Zone might have been a touch more difficult).
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Re: SDN World 3 Commentary Thread I

Postby Steve » 2009-11-07 07:03pm

CmdrWilkens wrote:
Sea Skimmer wrote:Given that both the Panama and Suez canals could have been built earlier then historical, and that SDN world 3 is hyper industrialized it would be illogical to have them not exist. In fact two Atlantic-Pacific Canals might well exist to handle heavy traffic flows. The real race would be the race to build third sets of locks which can accommodate the great beams of modern battleships, as the US would ultimately begin to build in 1940 only to cancel in 1942 after major excavation work had been done.


My operating thesis has been that the Panama Canal has been built but the Rio San Juan canal has NOT been built (due to the greater length). What I need to figure out is whether Ryan has the Panama Canal as constructed or if he delayed (without US intervention securing the Canal Zone might have been a touch more difficult).


IIRC the idea is that Colombia built it with the assistance of a number of other nations' contributions, giving them seats on the Canal Board for operating the Panama Canal, though it is recognized as sovereign Colombian territory.
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