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Chardok
PostPosted: 2009-02-24 09:07pm 

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PostPosted: 2009-02-26 11:49am 

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I'm back down to 82.3kg. For the past two weeks I was at around 84kg (didn't work out for those two weeks, and was eating pretty glutonously for the past three weeks). I'm going to get back to eating properly and snacking less.
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Chardok
PostPosted: 2009-02-28 04:24pm 

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Fire Fly
PostPosted: 2009-02-28 06:34pm 

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I've been wanting to take some omega 3 supplements (as well as a few others) to aid my diet but don't have access to a doctor at the moment. For those who are taking supplements, what would you recommend? At present, my diet tends to consist of the following: I tend to eat a lot of fruits in the morning with whole wheat and peanut butter and skim milk; a typical lunch might consist of a salad and lean cuisine or subways (I'm on the move constantly so I don't have much time to cook for myself); and a typical dinner might be something similar to my lunches with steamed vegetables. Any thoughts?
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Chardok
PostPosted: 2009-02-28 07:59pm 

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you need more protien, looks like. beans, lots of em, if you're eliminating red meat. a Co Q-10 supplement could not hurt (about 120Mg/day for the average healthy adult) and a good multivitamin; nothing fancy, just centrum or something. I also take an Amorphophalus Konjac fiber supplement as well, but that's more a heart health thing because of my cholesterol.
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CaptainChewbacca
PostPosted: 2009-03-04 08:18pm 

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I was going to meetings, then I skipped 3 weeks. Going back tonight.
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Chardok
PostPosted: 2009-03-07 01:20pm 

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Schuyler Colfax
PostPosted: 2009-03-07 02:09pm 

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Chardok
PostPosted: 2009-03-13 11:16am 

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weemadando
PostPosted: 2009-03-13 09:47pm 

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Chardok
PostPosted: 2009-03-14 05:24pm 

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weemadando wrote:



Anders- If it makes you feel...I dunno...better? All of the weight I've lost (some 33.5 pounds since late January) has been through dietary adjustment ALONE. That's right - zero exercise increase. I do everything I did before. Admittedly, I had to be scared into action via a cholesterol check. Maybe you should do that? I know it made it hellz easy for me. I was convinced that Saturated fat = death, Cholesterol = death, Trans fat = death, etc. etc. etc. I also read a book called "Ultra Metabolism" - not for the weight-loss junk, but for the health information. through that I was able to determine the types of foods I should eat. Whole, unprocessed foods as much as possible. Does this restrict what you can buy at the supermakret? Hell yes it does, but you adapt. I, too have a busy lifestyle (both amy and I work and of course, there's Ricky) so I don't have a lot of time. What I did was concoct this kind of...ultra-protien dense soup that included black beans, tomato soup from a can, skim milk, some soy nuts, and maybe some fruit on the side. 3 minutes later - BAM - I've got 400 calories of healthy, fiber-rich (admittedly high sodium), protein-dense food that was tasty (not pizza tasty, but, what is?) and man did it ever fill me up.

I honestly ate that soup almost every day for a week before I started monkeying around with other foods. I knew it was cool to east fish, so one day I did some calcs, and I took a can of tuna, some olive oil mayo (which not only tastes awesome, but also has polyunsaturated, or "good", fats in it) a little garlic powder, and a 100% whole wheat tortilla....I glopped the tuna into the tortilla, wrapped that sucker up, and bang-a-rang. After I ate that a coupe days, I just came up with variations on the same, quick theme. sometimes soup, sometimes a wrap of some kind, sometimes (this is my FAVORITE) I steam up a bag of Edamame (soybeans) Oh, man do I ever love soybeans!!!

After all that silliness with only tune wraps/tomato stewp, I knew there had to be a better way. So what I did was become a fastidious label-reader. I can actually eat out now, I'm just EXTREMELY restrictive. (ie - no McDonalds - there's just nothing there worth the risk) Pizza, however, I eat once a month where I used to eat it maybe once or twice a week thinking it was an Oh-so-good choice because, hey, a supreme pizza has all four food groups! Yeah, well, it's also crammed with trans fats, cholesterol, saturated fat, and refined sugar. so it's a sometimes treat now.

Anyway, the point of all this crap is that you really do need to be focus. to Find a focus - I was lucky, because I did not simply want to lose weight - I just did because I cut out all the food that was actualy physiologically dangerous for me to consume, and it just so happened that was most of the things that were keeping me fat. You must find your danger, so to speak, and it should scare you. I always love to say you never know what you can do until you have to.

Also - it will help for you to develop a new way to look at the food you eat. Not just from a "Oh, this is low-fat so I can eat a ton if I want" or "Gee, these potato chips are fat-free so I can polish off this whole bag no problem" but really look at what you're eating from a whole-content point of view. For things that are nonfat, very often it's replaced with something equally bad. Maybe more sugar or partially hydrogenated plant oils (which, even in small 'low fat' amounts can be just as bad as a ton of unsaturated fats), something like that. Check that carb content, too. Carbohydrates, if not used pretty quickly by your body, get stored as fat very very efficiently because we are not genetically programmed to live with an abundance of food energy - we're designed to survive when food is scarce. In a sense, we humans are always in "prevent starvation" mode. The carbohydrate problem, however, can be addressed rather nicely by an increase in dietary fiber, though - so it's good to find a balance.

So to recap:

1. Change the way you look at food - look at it from a complete content perspective.

2. Get rid of saturated fat as much as possible. Any food that contains partially Hydrogenated oil of any kind = bad.

3. Lose refined sugar completely. Zero, none, nil are the three acceptable options where this is concerned. High fructose corn syrup is the nectar of evil where this is concerned. Many people say/think that fakey sugar is terrible. Sacchrin has drawbacks, Aspartame is linked to cancer somewhat, but Sucralose does not have any studies indicating it is necessarily bad. This is my crutch, personally. Your body, however, does not know the difference between sweet from cane sugar and sweet from aspartame, though. All it knows is sweet = make more insulin - so you must be careful to not become insulin resistant. (This problem of insulin resistance is a big one, especially in the morbidly obese)

4. No red meat. Sorry, it has to be said. Red meat is LOADED with saturated fat. Lose it. Eat more fish, and to a lesser extent, poultry.

5. Soy is your friend. As cliche as it sounds - Soy protein is awesome. Tofu, soy milk, edamame, even roasted soy nuts are super. Soy is an awesome source of "complete" protein. That is - it contains all essential amino acids that the human body is unable to synthesize on it's own. It is a perfect substitue for the meat products you should eliminate from your diet. All the good parts, none of the bad. What's not to like?

6. Fiber.

7. Fiber.

8. Fiber.

9. Fiber.

10. Increase dietary fiber. It's not just for old people and regularity. Dietary fiber slows the absorbtion of crap you eat. by crap I mean fat, carbohydrates, sugars, LDL cholesterol, etc. in short, it helps your body get more from less over a longer period of time. I cannot stress this enough. If your diet is very very low in Fiber, you should slowly increase the amount you consume until you reach the recommended daily level. Will you have the shits? Yes, at first, you will. I know I did...good god, did I ever. But after about a day or so, I was back to normal, awesome poo-logs that were oh-so-satisfying. Try getting some Amorphophalus Konjac. Thats just about the most efficient source of dietary fiber you can get in capsule form. Also - eat only ONLY whole wheat bread. make sure it's 100% whole wheat, too. Not fakey "YO, THIS IS WHOLE WHEAT ps it's only a little whole wheat, we mostly use regular flour lol" breads.


Maybe I am going about the weight loss thing the wrong way, maybe it's a little unhealthy, since I've also restricted my daily caloric intake quite a bit as well; but I would argue that the dangers of rapid caloric restriction are far outweighed by the fact that my body doesn't have to work to maintain 33 extra pounds of shit-ass disgusting, jiggly-puff whale oil hanging off of my ass and stomach.

Plus, I'm getting sexier by the day. I know, I know, impossible! But NO, I have entered a whole new realm of sexy and am ascending the ladder toward "Damn Sexity Dieism"!
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weemadando
PostPosted: 2009-03-15 06:10am 

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I've done a lot of good weight loss before, but I tend to make good progress then fuck it all up. That said, I'm still operating at a net loss.

I'm working on re-setting goals at the moment and hope that my new structure is going to work.

Going diet only is OK for just weightloss, but because I'm wanting to try and get back some of my cardio and physique I'm having to actually run with an interesting balance of foods. I've had good success with the formula before, it's just that I've been blown out of the water of late by the ridiculousness of work etc.

Lets see how I go this week...
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Pulp Hero
PostPosted: 2009-03-18 07:29pm 

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I've been slacking off lately. Working long hours that include multi-day roadtrips has fucked my diet and exercise.

I am up to 180lbs right now. My goal is 170 by mid April, with 160 being my final goal weight.
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Schuyler Colfax
PostPosted: 2009-03-19 07:30pm 

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Hmmmm, 187, I'm not sure how that happened, but cool.

Pulp, my goals are virtually identical to yours, I want to hit 159 by June.
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Chardok
PostPosted: 2009-03-30 06:43pm 

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The Spartan
PostPosted: 2009-03-30 07:31pm 

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Chardok wrote:
210


:D:D:D:D:D

FYI, losing 40 pounds means you've burned off roughly 7 1/3 gallons of body volume.
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Chardok
PostPosted: 2009-03-30 08:15pm 

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The Spartan wrote:
Chardok wrote:
210


:D:D:D:D:D

FYI, losing 40 pounds means you've burned off roughly 7 1/3 gallons of body volume.


It's weird. I don't see a huge difference....But - everyone else does. At work people do not recognize me from behind - This probably also has to do with the fact that I am wearing clothes they've neve seen me wear before (That is, clothes I've had for years, but haven't been able to wear.) hehehe
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Schuyler Colfax
PostPosted: 2009-03-30 11:38pm 

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193, and my mom brought groceries today, and I'm home all week for Spring Break. I don't see this ending well.
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The Spartan
PostPosted: 2009-03-31 07:48am 

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Schuyler Colfax wrote:
193, and my mom brought groceries today, and I'm home all week for Spring Break. I don't see this ending well.

When you wake up in the morning go for a walk or jog. Don't stop until you've done at least 30 minutes. Do resistance training at least three times this week.

For the food, write down everything you're going to eat and keep the log of it with you, i.e. come up with a plan and stick to it. Measure everything you eat that you can (use a 1/2 cup measure). Put a serving (one) of whatever it is you're eating on the plate and don't go back for seconds.

Do. Not. Snack.

[quote="Chardok"It's weird. I don't see a huge difference....But - everyone else does. At work people do not recognize me from behind - This probably also has to do with the fact that I am wearing clothes they've neve seen me wear before (That is, clothes I've had for years, but haven't been able to wear.) hehehe[/quote]

It's the same with me. I don't see much difference but last year when I went to visit a friend after having lost 30 pounds her response upon seeing me was, "Where's the rest of you?"
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Kodiak
PostPosted: 2009-03-31 02:31pm 

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Schuyler Colfax wrote:
193, and my mom brought groceries today, and I'm home all week for Spring Break. I don't see this ending well.


I suggest having a LOT of water. I try to drink 2-3 glasses before I leave the house in the morning. Also, one thing I've learned is to go and satisfy your cravings. If you want a burger, go get a burger, but RECORD THE F&*(ING POINTS! :lol:

Seriously though, I second the advice about snack. Just play as many videogames and watch as many movies as possible, all without snacking.
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Darth Wong
PostPosted: 2009-03-31 02:48pm 

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PainRack wrote:
Anyone has any links on lightweight exercises one can do in the comfort of one own home?

I need more variety, so that I can motivate myself to keep up on the aerobic aspects of things.

Have you considered getting a Wii Fit? They're surprisingly good exercise and they're fun too.
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Kamakazie Sith
PostPosted: 2009-03-31 04:44pm 

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Today is the day I'm getting serious. I don't know if this will help but I figure I need some sort of support group and a place to record/monitor my progress.

Currently...I'm 216lbs.

I can currently do the following;

40 pushups/one minute
40 situps/one minute
13:45 mile and a half

My goals are by October;

60 pushups/one minute
50 situps/one minute
13:00 mile and a half

I'm also throwing out all my guilt foods like cookies, ice cream, etc.
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Kamakazie Sith
PostPosted: 2009-03-31 04:47pm 

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I need to hear this from someone else but slim fast is bullshit isn't it? All that sugar? It can't be good for you...
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Dark Flame
PostPosted: 2009-03-31 05:19pm 

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Do. Not. Snack.


Really? I've always thought that (healthy) snacking throughout the day helps to keep your metabolism going so you're burning more calories all the time. However, if you're going to do that then I would recommend keeping track of it, and sticking to your plan. Perhaps make up for the extra food by eating smaller meals, or with more excercise.
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Kodiak
PostPosted: 2009-03-31 07:13pm 

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Kamakazie Sith wrote:
I need to hear this from someone else but slim fast is bullshit isn't it? All that sugar? It can't be good for you...


with weightwatchers it's points that matter. While it's important to limit sugars, a breakfast shake (that's when I have 'em) are only 5-6 points. I typically grab some fruit or toast at home for breakfast and then I take a "shake" with me that I have around 10am or so. I would never use them to substitute an entire meal (in fact, I wouldn't drink more than 1 a day) but they're good as a mid morning snack or something to tide you over.
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