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Boris Evseyevich Chertok (1912-December 2011)
Pioneering Russian guidance and control engineer, key member of Korolev's design team 1946-1992. Deputy Chief Designer 1956-1992, created Soyuz and N1 LV control systems. His frank biography is a key source for Soviet space history.
Boris Chertok was a talented and pioneering guidance and control engineer, and a key member of Korolev's team from 1946 on. He was a Deputy Chief Designer 1956-1992 at Korolev's design bureau and its successors. He was an intimate witness to the key events of the space race on the Soviet side, and his memoirs are a major historical source for Soviet space history.

Chertok was born in Lodz, the son of an accountant. The family moved to Moscow before Boris reached the age of two. Chertok began his working career at age 17 as an electrician. However he was fascinated by electronics, and despite his lack of higher education he began work at an avionics factory in 1930. His talent was recognised, and he began a university education in parallel with his work. By 1935 he was head of a design office, and played a key role in developing and supporting the electronics for Soviet polar expeditions. He received his formal degree in 1940 and began work on guidance and control systems at V F Bolkhovitinov's bureau. Chertok's first work in rocketry came with his involvement in design of the ignition and control system for the BI-1 rocketplane's engine.

In April 1945 was assigned to the special group that was tasked with obtaining German rocket technology for the Soviet Union. He worked in Germany until January 1947, famously missing a chance to obtain Wernher Von Braun's services for the Soviet Union. Here he came in contact with Sergei Korolev. He was assigned to Korolev's NII-88 institute in August 1946, beginning his lifelong career as Korolev's chief deputy for rocket and spacecraft control and guidance systems.

In this position Chertok became a key particpant in the Soviet Union's space program. Following work on the celestial navigation system for long range cruise missiles, he worked on the control systems for the world's first ICBM, the R-7, and then the first manned spacecraft, the Vostok, Voskhod, and Soyuz. He was responsible for the KORD engine control system for the ill-fated N1 super booster for the disastrous Soviet manned lunar program. After that project was cancelled in 1974, Chertok remained at the reorganised Energia enterprise as Deputy Chief Designer for control systems until his retirement in 1992.

Chertok received the highest honours from the Soviet and Russian states, and also served as a university lecturer in his specialties. He was the author of over 200 scholarly papers. His four volumes of memoirs, 'Rockets and Men', were written in the 1990's and span the period from 1946 to 1991.

Most fascinating are Chertok's accounts of key meetings where decisions were made on the course of the Soviet program. These are extremely lively and seem to be taken from contemporary notes or even verbatim transcripts. These were rough-and-tumble sessions, where the Chief Designers were pressed to defend their projects.
MASA NASA has trnaslated volumes I through III of his memoirs into English. Volume IV is under development.

You can download them from NASA's website....

Chertok, Boris. Rockets and People, Volume I. (NASA SP-2005-4110).
http://history.nasa.gov/SP-4110/vol1-1.pdf
http://history.nasa.gov/SP-4110/vol1-2.pdf
http://history.nasa.gov/SP-4110/vol1-3.pdf

Chertok, Boris. Rockets and People Volume II: Creating a Rocket Industry (NASA SP-2006-4110).
http://history.nasa.gov/SP-4110/vol2.pdf

Chertok, Boris. Rockets and People Volume III: Hot Days of the Cold War (NASA SP-2009-4110).
http://history.nasa.gov/SP-4110/vol3.pdf

Chertok, Boris. Rockets and People Volume IV: The Moon Race. (NASA SP-2011-4110)
http://history.nasa.gov/SP-4110/vol4.pdf
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I wish I had more time to read books like these. :( Thanks for the find, Shep.
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Make sure to post a link to part 4 when it comes out!
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It comes out next year according to NASA's history department and will be titled THE MOON RACE or something like that.
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Volume IV of it has been released (check the original post for link)
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Shep, thanks very much for posting about this books and the links. I've been reading non-stop since I saw them. It's truly fascinating and I've spread them around to some colleagues as well.
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Today is the Centennial of Wernher von Braun's birth:

March 23, 1912 - March 23, 2012

von Braun's first job with Hermann Oberth in 1930 was to fundraise for the Verein für Raumschiffahrt; and he did this via flacking displays on interplanetary rockets in a Berlin department store, eight hours a day of telling Berlin housewives how an interplanetary rocket would cost 7,000 marks ($1,700 USD), and take a year to build. :D

"Forty years later, I realize how little one billion dollars will buy and how little you can build in one year."
-von Braun

One of his other promotional pushes was "I bet you that the first man to walk on the Moon is alive today somewhere on this Earth!"

At the time, Neil Armstrong was literally a newborn infant in Ohio.

Now, naturally; Huntsville, Alabama remembers the man who put them on the map; who turned them from a decaying US Army Arsenal surrounded by rednecks on farm tractors, to a center of high technology and a major NASA center.

So, there's going to be a ceremony today for his birthday at the US Space and Rocket Center in Huntsville, Alabama in the new building that houses their restored Saturn V:

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HUNTSVILLE, Alabama -- The U.S. Space & Rocket Center is hosting a birthday party on what would have been the 100th birthday of rocket pioneer Dr. Wernher von Braun.

The March 23 event will be at the Davidson Center for Space Exploration, with cocktails at 6 p.m. and dinner at 7 p.m. There will be German food and traditional German music performed by Terry Cavanagh and the Alpine Express.

The special guest speaker will be von Braun's daughter, Dr. Margrit von Braun, the dean of the College of Graduate Students at the University of Idaho. She will speak beneath the Saturn V rocket.

Von Braun's other daughter, Iris Robbins, will also attend the event.

The Huntsville Community Chorus will perform a composition written by von Braun when he was 15 years old. It is the only known von Braun musical composition that contains lyrics.

A number of personal friends of the von Braun family from across the United States and from Germany will attend, said Dr. Deborah Barnhart, the center's CEO.

The party will be "a traditional German birthday party," Barnhart said, "and will be a celebration of von Braun's life and achievements."

Everyone with a paid admission will be able to visit the center's exhibit, "100 Years of Von Braun: His American Journey," at no additional cost.

The March 23 event is sponsored by Lockheed Martin. Proceeds from the $100-a-plate dinner will go to a scholarship in von Braun's name.
Course, it sold out pretty fast.

BTW; the exhibit "100 Years of von Braun: His American Journey" is on display at USRC until May 2012; then it will travel overseas -- Madrid and Munich are mentioned as possible landing sites.

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Among the items on display is his desktop planning calendar for...July 1969.

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And of course, the local media is spamming forth stories:

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HUNTSVILLE, Alabama -- Wernher Von Braun has been gone for 35 years, but on the eve of the 100th anniversay of his birth three who worked with the gifted scientist and engineer remembered his contribution to higher education in Huntsville.

Speaking at UAHuntsville's Salmon library Thursday afternoon, Charles Lundquist, Fred Ordway and Dave Christensen held a panel discussion in front of an audience of about 60, and gave insights into the mind of the man who, more than anyone else, made Huntsville what it is today.

The panel discussion was part of the"Wernher Von Braun: A Visionary's Influence on UAHuntsville" in which the three discussed Von Braun's influence on education and his successful efforts to encourage the State of Alabama to create a research institute at UAHuntsville.

All three worked with Von Braun and as fellow scientists and engineers, and knew him personally.

Lundquist, who worked under Von Braun at the Army Ballistic Missile Agency in the 1950s, remembered a man who valued education, saw the need for higher technical education in Huntsville to support rocket programs, and worked to bring a research institute to Huntville.

Following an adress to a joint session of the Alabama legislature in 1960, the State of Alabama established the research institute at what was soon to become the University of Alabama in Huntsville.

"He did it with minimal funding," Lundquist remembered. "But he did get it started."

That research instititute was the nucleus of what became, in 1969, the University of Alabama in Huntsville. Lundquist said this avent, along with moon landing in July of that year, made 1969 a momentous year for Huntsville.

Fred Ordway, who worked with Von Braun at both the Army Ballistic Missile Agency (ABMA) and later at Marshall Space Flight Center, described his and Von Braun's efforts to obtain part of the Willy Ley collection for UAH.

Ley, an early German rocket and space enthusiast who influenced both Von Braun and his mentor, Hermann Oberth, wrote and compiled a collection of thousands of books, periodicals, and papers on space, rockets and space travel. After his death in June 1969, just three weeks before the July 16 Moon landing, his widow sold most of the collection to the Smithsonian in Washington, but a significant part went to UAH.

Ordway recalled that in 1970 "about 125 cartons" of books and were shipped to UAH. "It was an incredible library," he recalled.

Dave Christensen said Von Braun was "an excellent educator as was Dr. Ernst Stulinger" who promoted higher education and supported other educational and cultural efforts in Huntville.

A highlight of his presentation was a 1975 video clip of Von Braun giving a lecture on space travel at Johns Hopkins University. Von Braun, Christensen recalled, possessed the gift of being able to connect with whatever audience he was addressing.

"He could be as much at ease giving a speech to the Alabama legislature or a group in Washington as he was talking to his coworkers," Christensen said.

Following the panel discussion, a double plaque marker commenorating Von Brauns support to education was unveiled. On one plaque was inscribed Von Braun's feelings on education.

"Opportunity goes where the best people go, and the best people go where good education goes."
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HUNTSVILLE, Alabama -- In his precious leisure time in the 1950s, the world's foremost rocket genius was digging sewer lines, organizing letter-writing campaigns, getting Huntsville musicians together and visiting the library.

How on earth did Wernher von Braun have time to put man on the moon in 1969?

If you've lived in Huntsville long, you've heard the legend of what von Braun and his rocket team brought to a sleepy cotton town. A university. A symphony. A planetarium. The Parkway. A space center. German restaurants. World attention.

Von Braun was a hands-on guy during his time in Huntsville.

In the fall of 1954, a 16-year-old Huntsville High student started an astronomy club. The group wanted real rocket scientists involved and began meeting at the home of Dr. Martin Schilling. They needed a large telescope.

"While Dr. von Braun went shopping for a suitable scope, plans were made to build an observatory," according to local astronomy society history. "Wilhelm Angele, another Army missile expert, volunteered to design the observatory building."

The Rocket City Astronomical Association's first president, elected in April 1955, was von Braun. He found a 16.5-inch reflecting telescope for sale in California (later upgraded to the current 21-inch one). Work crews gathered Wednesdays to construct a building. Von Braun was chief organizer.

"Von Braun encouraged involvement in community and cultural activities - especially those that related to space and rocketry, but he was never too high-minded to help with the most mundane chores," wrote Marshall Space Flight Center historian Mike Wright in a publication called "Wernher von Braun's Support for the Imaginary Arts" about the legacy of the team.

"For example, he helped dig the sewer lines for the new observatory on Monte Sano," Wright wrote based on interviews.

Gert Schmitz, 84, is a charter member of the local astronomy society. A photography buff, he remembers spending hours to get the new observatory up and running. He and von Braun signed invoices together for camera purchases.

"I spent time up here like you wouldn't believe," said Schmitz, a German immigrant who worked for Chrysler missile plant in Detroit (where he met Magnus von Braun, Wernher's brother), then in solid propulsion for Thiokol, at MICOM and with various secret projects. He holds two American patents and worked in conjunction with the von Braun group for four years.

The first picture he took on the 16.5-inch telescope was of the moon, with a 4-by-5 camera.

"I gave it to von Braun. He had it mounted on a walnut frame," he recalled.

Schmitz took many historic pictures through the years, including the Orion Nebula, comet Kohoutek in 1974, MoonBlink in the mid-'60s to observe lunar phenomena, Spacelab and potential moon-landing sites. Sometimes club members would go to the mountain in the middle of the night to scan the skies for something. Other times they would chop down trees obstructing the view.

Schmitz said the official opening of the Monte Sano Observatory was in Huntsville Electric Auditorium on June 12, 1959, followed by a gathering at the observatory. Von Braun mistakenly went to the mountain first, Schmitz recalled, but jumped in his Mercedes model 190 and joined the rest of the group downtown 20 minutes later.

"Portions of the proceeds for the observatory were raised through subscriptions to a local magazine entitled Space Journal that included articles by von Braun and other Huntsville space and rocket experts," wrote historian Wright. "The magazine lasted only a short while but the articles and artwork in the journal illustrated how art and space were joined together in Huntsville."

About 1972, the Rocket City Astronomical Association became the Von Braun Astronomical Society.

A well-read bunch to say the least, the Germans "sometimes put more emphasis on obtaining a library card than in signing up for city services like water and electricity," Wright wrote.

Irene Wilhite is former curator at the U.S. Space & Rocket Center and an expert on von Braun and the rocket team's time here.

The Germans were "triggers" of major cultural change in Huntsville, said Wilhite, who came to Huntsville in 1957.

"Huntsville was a rural community - there was no interest in it" before that time, she said. As more people came, the area began to reach a population that would support artistic endeavors on a larger scale.

That was supported by late Huntsville Mayor Joe Davis in an interview with The Huntsville Times in 1987.

Von Braun "stimulated a section of the community that had not been stimulated before," Davis said at that time. "He made us a little more conscious of the fact that we had dragged our feet as far as the arts were concerned.

"He, being the leader of the German group, made Huntsville realize it was going to have to take on a cosmopolitan atmosphere, rather than a complacent Southern town," Davis said.

By all accounts, von Braun was savvy enough to bring people on board with his vision for the community.

"His speeches were geared toward that audience of what he wanted," Wilhite recalled. For example, to support a local university, he encouraged people to "get out your checkbooks."

"He was so charismatic," she said.

She confirmed that a German architect basically "laid out Redstone Arsenal" and the major thoroughfare that would become Memorial Parkway. "They saw it as the autobahn," she said.

The Huntsville Symphony Orchestra is the city's best-known legacy of that watershed era in local history.

From "Fifty Fabulous Years of Music," an anniversary publication by the HSO:

"While their professional lives were dedicated to realizing visions of flights into space, many of them were skilled amateur musicians who shared a deep-seated passion for classical music."

Rocket team member Walt Wiesman "reported that within months of his arrival in Huntsville he and his wife found themselves licking stamps for a mailout to support the community orchestra," Wright wrote.

The city's new symphony orchestra presented its first show in December 1955.
The concertmaster was Werner Kuers, a senior member of von Braun's team.
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HUNTSVILLE, Alabama -- Margrit von Braun was in Japan last October, working with a group studying the environmental aftermath of the devastating earthquake and tsunami. She was sharing a ride with a college student from the University of Tokyo and, as customary, they exchanged business cards.

The young man saw her name and, she recalls, "almost fell out of the car."

"Are you related to Wernher?" the student asked.

"He was my father," she said.

"I thought," Margrit says, laughing at the memory, "he was going to have a heart attack, he was so excited."

This Friday, Dr. Margrit von Braun returns to the city where Dr. Werhner von Braun is remembered as a leader and innovator, where he and wife Maria raised their three children in an active, happy environment that has left her with nothing but "wonderful feelings."

She'll speak at an event at the Davidson Center, marking the 100th anniversary of her father's birth.

She's delighted to be involved in what she called "my father's birthday party."

Her sister, Iris Robbins, will also be here. Her brother Peter and mother Maria, who, like Iris, live in the Washington, D.C. area, won't be able to attend.

"We get together very frequently and everybody is in good health and doing well," says Margrit, who lives with her husband Ian von Lindern in Idaho, where she was a professor at the University of Idaho for 32 years before recently retiring.

"My mother is a very independent, strong, wonderful human being. I'm so proud of her and proud of the role she played and the other women played in the success of the rocket program," Margrit says.

She remembers her mother and others on the German rocket team "having so many problems with the English language as spoken in the South. I used to have to do a lot of phone calls for my mother, even though her English was very good. She couldn't understand them and they couldn't understand her. I could at least fake a Southern accent."

As a scientist and professor, Margrit von Braun appreciates her father's genius, saying, "It's humbling."

As a daughter, though, what she says now differs little from when she wrote this school assignment that would appear in The Huntsville Times' May 26, 1963 edition:

"To other people, he may be the foremost rocket engineer and scientist in the world. But to me he is the most kind, considerate, and helpful father there is. He is the best father in the world."

Her father, she says, made people with whom he talked feel "like the most important person in the world." He was "very affectionate" and he loved spending time on Lake Guntersville boating with the family. He bought Margrit a horse and taught her to scuba dive.

"He was just always a lot of fun to be around. He was always laughing," she says. "He was able to laugh a lot, and just enjoyed life. He made sure that people valued what was important."

Margrit von Braun has nothing but warm memories of Huntsville. She returns occasionally for reunions with old friends. She still remains close to people she met while attending Blossomwood Elementary from the first through fourth grades and while at Randolph School from the fifth through ninth. (She attended high school at a boarding school in Atlanta).

"Huntsville makes such a high-tech impression. And that's not a description I would have ever used growing up," she says. "It's big and robust and it feels moving. It seems very vibrant and with a great sense of community. Not just in technology, but also the arts have a big role in Huntsville, which again was not a big part of my memory as a child."

She recognizes the role her father played in Huntsville's evolution.

"I think he and his team seemed to be well-respected and well-remembered there, which is wonderful," Margrit says. "I think those are things he and his team were committed to. And I think he would be so proud to see what Huntsville is like today and to know he had a part in that growth."
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HUNTSVILLE, Alabama -- He was right there Thursday afternoon in Room 111 of the Salmon Library at the University of Alabama in Huntsville.

Wernher von Braun seemed so alive, so vivid, so engaging on the video that the jam-packed room applauded when it ended as if von Braun himself had been present.

On a day of celebration for the father of America's rocket program - the day before what would have been his 100th birthday - von Braun made a cameo in a grainy 1975 video from a lecture he gave at Johns Hopkins University.

The gist of the video? This is how you send men to Mars.

"He thought a lot about it," said Dave Christensen, a former UAH scientist who once worked with von Braun and included the video during a panel discussion.

Indeed, the detail of a journey that today remains merely in theory captivated the audience.

Von Braun envisioned the trip taking about 18 months each way and including 12 astronauts - not three as was the familiar method of operation for the Apollo moon landings.

He incorporated the now-idle space shuttle program along with the massive Saturn V moon rockets as the vehicles to Mars.

"Mars was always his objective," Christensen said.

Frequently described as "a dreamer" during the panel discussion, von Braun outlined the Mars plan during the questions after his Johns Hopkins speech. Christensen said he was invited to the lecture while visiting von Braun in Washington.

Looking back, it's an honor Christensen still treasures. And as the centennial anniversary of von Braun's birthday approached, Christensen recalled that lecture and discovered the video.

It made for a grand finale to the panel discussion, which also included von Braun contemporaries Charles Lundquist and Fred Ordway paying homage to the space pioneer's legacy and his impact on Huntsville and the space program.

Lundquist, in fact, noted that 1969 was a "historic year" not only because of the moon landing but also the addition of UAH to the University of Alabama System.

"Both events owe much of their success to Dr. von Braun," Lundquist said.

The moon program, however, was viewed by von Braun as preparation for going to Mars. Christensen said the plan in 1961 - when the moon program began - was to go to Mars in 1982.

"That '61 plan, it didn't show stopping in Earth orbit," Christensen said. "We went to the moon and we quit. We had a lot of capability. We had everything we needed to go to Mars."

Von Braun's plan, as outlined in the video, was to build two interplanetary spaceships in low-earth orbit. The space shuttle would ferry supplies and workers to the construction project.

The Mars rockets would be nuclear powered and the journey would be "like an expedition on a sailing ship," von Braun told the Johns Hopkins audience that day.

"With the travel time of about a year and a half, you would like to take a cook and a doctor and everything else along," von Braun said.

On that day in 1975, von Braun also spoke of discoveries that had been made about Mars, including a massive canyon that spanned the distance from Miami to Seattle, as well as a volcano larger than any on earth.

"Mars has the highest volcano in the world," von Braun said, then correcting himself by saying "in the solar system" as the audience got a laugh out of his slip of the tongue.

"Needless to say, if we do find evidence of life on Mars, the rush will be on again and man will probably want to follow unmanned exploration," von Braun said.

Today, Mars perhaps seems even more remote than it did in 1975.

"We were short-sighted in our space travel," Christensen said during the panel discussion. "A lot of that is politics."

Afterward, Christensen was asked what he thought of von Braun's dream of putting man on Mars still being unrealized.

"It is sad," Christensen said. "It really is."
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HUNTSVILLE, Alabama -- It's been more than 50 years but former Alabama Gov. John Patterson laughed a deep, hearty laugh at the memory.

In an interview earlier this month with The Times, Patterson talked about the influence Wernher von Braun had on the development of the University of Alabama in Huntsville as it is today.

Von Braun spoke before a rare joint session of the state Legislature in 1961, urging lawmakers to earmark money for the creation of a research facility at what is now known as UAH. The research facility, von Braun told lawmakers, was needed to keep NASA's presence in Huntsville as the nation embarked on the race to beat the Soviet Union to the moon.

That speech in Montgomery is a legendary part of Huntsville's history.

But Patterson also offered a bit of a "rest of the story" perspective to the speech.

"It went over very well and he was well-received," Patterson said. "And I had invited everybody (in the Legislature) out to the governor's mansion for lunch right after he spoke. We did a little research on him and discovered one of the things von Braun really liked was a luncheon wine known as Lancer's Rose.

"It's a Portuguese wine. You can't buy that in Alabama in the liquor store today. You couldn't buy it in the store back then, either.

"We had shipped in several cases of Lancer's Rose wine for lunch. Now the Legislature, in those days, was notorious for drinking. We had them out for lunch and they drank every bottle of that stuff. And they went back into session (after lunch) and immediately passed and appropriated the money for the construction and the starting of the University of Alabama in Huntsville."

The Legislature directed $2 million that day to UAH.

"I have said many times that the need was obvious (for the research center at UAH)," Patterson said. "This had to be done. But on top of that, it seemed like everybody was for it. And then Lancer's Rose might have played a role in it, too."
If you can't make it to Alabama, you can try for Washington DC as von Braun lies at Section T, Plot 29, Site 5, of Ivy Hill Cemetery, off King Street in Alexandria, Virginia.

Or in more specific terms, the turn off to Ivy Hill is at:

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The 3500 prisoners he worked to death in the service of the Nazis sadly won't be able to join this veneration due to them being dead.
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Thanas wrote:The 3500 prisoners he worked to death in the service of the Nazis sadly won't be able to join this veneration due to them being dead.
I also find venerating von Braun as some sort of saint...wrong, although saying he personally worked 3500 people to death is a bit of a stretch. Remember that at one point he barely escaped execution by the SS which charged him with being uninterested in warfare and opposing v2 strikes on England himself.

And then he was made an honorary SS colonel. And admitted to personally picking out slaves from concetration camps.

An interesting life, his was.
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French work slave wrote:Without even listening to my explanations, [von Braun] ordered the Meister to have me given 25 strokes...Then, judging that the strokes weren't sufficiently hard, he ordered I be flogged more vigorously...von Braun made me translate that I deserved much more, that in fact I deserved to be hanged...I would say his cruelty, of which I was personally a victim, are, I would say, an eloquent testimony to his Nazi fanaticism.
...yeah.
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Yeah...

Okay. I guess this clears up that question...
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I think the way von Braun's head was wired- anything that contributed to his long range goal of rockets on Mars and cities on the Moon was good. Anything that undermined it was bad, and anything that was irrelevant to that goal could be judged normally, but he wouldn't pay very much attention to it. The power of the idée fixe, really.

If so, then in his head, getting money from Nazis to develop rockets was good. Having to waste valuable development time working out a production line for V-2s was bad. Subject to the constraint that he has to waste valuable development time to get V-2s built, slaves causing delays in the production process was bad. The Holocaust itself and the massive use of slave labor for the German economy in general... irrelevant to the basic ambition of building the rockets, and therefore unimportant to him.

I also get the feeling that from his family background, von Braun may have inherited some of that attitude a lot of conservative Germans had of the Nazis as a bunch of upstarts and violent goons. People like that would dislike the Nazis not so much because of what they did, but because of who they were: because they violated what were still basically 19th century standards of political and social behavior. They did things that, as the British would put it, simply weren't done.

Not so sure about that, though. I may be picking up powerful mistaken impressions.
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The daughter of Sergey Pavlovitch Korolev writes a text in the english book about her father. It is the present from the family Korolev to Wernher von Brauns 100th birthday in March 2012.

This book will be the first evidence beetween the families "von Braun" and "Korolev". Both fathers had the same character and visions.
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Simon_Jester wrote:I think the way von Braun's head was wired- anything that contributed to his long range goal of rockets on Mars and cities on the Moon was good. Anything that undermined it was bad, and anything that was irrelevant to that goal could be judged normally, but he wouldn't pay very much attention to it. The power of the idée fixe, really.

If so, then in his head, getting money from Nazis to develop rockets was good. Having to waste valuable development time working out a production line for V-2s was bad. Subject to the constraint that he has to waste valuable development time to get V-2s built, slaves causing delays in the production process was bad. The Holocaust itself and the massive use of slave labor for the German economy in general... irrelevant to the basic ambition of building the rockets, and therefore unimportant to him.

I also get the feeling that from his family background, von Braun may have inherited some of that attitude a lot of conservative Germans had of the Nazis as a bunch of upstarts and violent goons. People like that would dislike the Nazis not so much because of what they did, but because of who they were: because they violated what were still basically 19th century standards of political and social behavior. They did things that, as the British would put it, simply weren't done.

Not so sure about that, though. I may be picking up powerful mistaken impressions.
Overall you are right, IMHO. Let's not forget he at several times failed to follow orders when he felt it would further his goals. Deserting from germans (rocket plans in hand) at an opportune moment to join the americans with the expressed desire to build rockets for them does paint a clear picture.
But we shouldn't forget that, like Mengele, he used and abused humans for his goals, too. It was him who had advised to use slave labor to build the V-2.
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The Huntsville Community Chorus will perform a composition written by von Braun when he was 15 years old. It is the only known von Braun musical composition that contains lyrics.
There is another composition they could have played.



Regarding admiration of von Braun, I admire him precisely for what was admirable about him, and dislike him precisely for what was dislikeable about him.

And while we're talking about rocket technology in the '60s:
Robert Gilruth to Max Faget on the Apollo program: “Max, we’re going to go back there one day, and when we do, they’re going to find out how tough it is.”
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This isn't really an obituary or milestone; but I put it here to keep things a bit clean in History-land:

Forever Young: A Life of Adventure in Air and Space has been officially listed on Amazon as a preorder; with a release date of September 16, 2012.

It's by John Watts Young; who flew on Gemini, Apollo, and Shuttle and walked on the moon. He wrote out most of the manuscript several years ago, and then enlisted the help of a writer to see if there were ways it could be polished up; and the person he got to help out was James R. Hansen, who wrote First Man, the authorized Armstrong biography.
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Roger Boisjoly, 73, Dies; Warned of Shuttle Danger
By DOUGLAS MARTIN
Published: February 3, 2012

Six months before the space shuttle Challenger exploded over Florida on Jan. 28, 1986, Roger Boisjoly wrote a portentous memo. He warned that if the weather was too cold, seals connecting sections of the shuttle’s huge rocket boosters could fail.

“The result could be a catastrophe of the highest order, loss of human life,” he wrote.

The memo was meant to jolt Morton Thiokol, the company that made the boosters and employed Mr. Boisjoly. In July 1985, a task force had been formed, partly on Mr. Boisjoly’s recommendation, to examine the effect of cold on the boosters. The effort, however, had become mired in paperwork, procurement delays and a rush to launch the shuttle, according to later investigations.

Meanwhile, his apprehensions only grew. The night before the Challenger’s liftoff, the temperature dipped below freezing. Unusual for Florida, the cold was unprecedented for a shuttle launching, and it prompted Mr. Boisjoly and other engineers to plead that the flight be postponed. Their bosses, under pressure from NASA, rejected the advice.

The shuttle exploded 73 seconds after launching, killing its seven crew members, including Christa McAuliffe, a high school teacher from Concord, N.H.

Mr. Boisjoly’s memo was soon made public. He became widely known as a whistle-blower in a federal investigation of the disaster. And though he was hailed for his action by many, he was also made to suffer for it.

Mr. Boisjoly (pronounced like Beaujolais wine) died in Nephi, Utah, near Provo, on Jan. 6. He was 73. His death was reported only locally at the time. He lived in southwest Utah, in St. George. His wife, Roberta, said he recently learned he had cancer in his colon, kidneys and liver.

Until the Challenger disaster, Mr. Boisjoly was known in his field as a crackerjack troubleshooter who had worked for companies in California on lunar module life-support systems and the moon vehicle. In 1980, he accepted a cut in pay to move with his family to Utah to deepen his involvement in the Mormon religion and to join Morton Thiokol.

After the Challenger explosion, Mr. Boisjoly gave a presidential commission investigating the disaster internal corporate documents. His disclosure of the internal memo he had written six months before the disaster was regarded as a bombshell.

Mr. Boisjoly was awarded the Prize for Scientific Freedom and Responsibility by the American Association for the Advancement of Science, and spoke to more than 300 universities and civic groups about corporate ethics. He became sought after as an expert in forensic engineering.

But before then he had paid the stiff price often exacted of whistle-blowers. Thiokol cut him off from space work, and he was shunned by colleagues and managers. A former friend warned him, “If you wreck this company, I’m going to put my kids on your doorstep,” Mr. Boisjoly told The Los Angeles Times in 1987.

He had headaches, double-vision and depression, he said. He yelled at his dog and his daughters and skipped church to avoid people. He filed two suits against Thiokol; both were dismissed.

He later said he was sustained by a single gesture of support. Sally Ride, the first American woman in space, hugged him after his appearance before the commission.

“She was the only one,” he said in a whisper to a Newsday reporter in 1988. “The only one.”

Roger Mark Boisjoly was born in Lowell, Mass., on April 25, 1938, and earned a mechanical engineering degree from the University of Massachusetts at Lowell.

Besides his wife, the former Roberta Malcolm, he is survived by his daughters Norma Patterson and Darlene Richens; his brothers Ronald, Russell and Richard; and eight grandchildren.

Mr. Boisjoly worked for 27 years in the aerospace industry. But it was one night and one moment that stood out. On the night of Jan. 27, 1986, Mr. Boisjoly and four other Thiokol engineers used a teleconference with NASA to press the case for delaying the next day’s launching because of the cold. At one point, Mr. Boisjoly said, he slapped down photos showing the damage cold temperatures had caused to an earlier shuttle. It had lifted off on a cold day, but not this cold.

“How the hell can you ignore this?” he demanded. At first this seemed persuasive, according to commission testimony. Makers of critical components had the power to postpone flights.

Four Thiokol vice presidents, all engineers themselves, went offline to huddle. They later said that they had worried they lacked conclusive data to stop a launching that had already been postponed twice. They thought the naysayers might be operating on gut reaction, not science.

Jerry Mason, Thiokol’s general manager, told his fellow executives to take off their engineering hats and put on management hats. They told NASA it was a go.

The next morning Mr. Boisjoly watched the launching. If there was going to be a problem, he thought it would come at liftoff. As the shuttle cleared the tower, his prayers seemed answered.

“Thirteen seconds later,” Mr. Boisjoly said, “we saw it blow up.”
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From CollectSPACE Link
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Interfax (via author/journalist James Oberg) is reporting that Valeriy Lyndin, spokesman for Roscosmos' TsUP Flight Control Center (Moscow mission control), has died. He served as the "Voice of TsUP" since 1965.
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Nikolai Alekseevich Rynin (December 23, 1887 – July 28, 1942) (Link)
Between 1928 and 1932 he published a nine-volume encyclopedia of space travel called the Mezhplanetnye Soobschniya ("Interplanetary Communications"). He is known to have corresponded with peers in the West, including Robert H. Goddard in 1926, concerning Russian rocketry activities.

Rynin died from a combination of starvation and illness during the German siege of Leningrad, as did fellow spaceflight promoter Yakov Perelman.
NASA and the National Science Foundation had all nine volumes translated in the 1970s by the Israel Program for Scientific Translations.

Links are to multi-meg PDFs which are two bit binary scans, and a bit illegible in some places. It's an interesting look into spaceflight as perceived in 1928-1932.

I'm sure these are all on the internet in Russian, given how lax Russian copyright laws are; but these are reasonably professional translations, rather than simplistic machine translations.

Vol 1 No 1: Dreams, Legends, and Early Fantasies
Vol 1 No 2: Spacecraft in Science Fiction
Vol 1 No 3: Radiant Energy, Science Fiction and Scientific Projects

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Vol 2 No 5: Theory of Rocket Propulsion
Vol 2 No 6: Superaviation and superartillery

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Vol 3, No 8: Theory of Space Flight
Vol 3, No 9: Theory Annals, Bibliography, Index
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The San Diego Air & Space Museum has a pretty nice photoarchive on flickr; here's a keyword URL that will bring up all sorts of fun Space Shuttle goodness:

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I wonder. Would a shuttle built like that have worked?
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Simon_Jester wrote:I wonder. Would a shuttle built like that have worked?
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The Amazing All-Electric Flying Machine! By Brian Welch
"Back then, they thought in terms of a rough and ready, rugged and robust 4-wheel drive of a spacecraft, capable of bouncing around the back roads of space with a vast array of redundant systems, four deep in many cases, to provide defense in depth against hardware problems and ground processing headaches.

That defense in depth, known as quad redundancy, had an odd sounding acronym (even for NASA) to express its method of operation: FO/FO/ FS. That stood for Fail-Operational/ Fail-Operational/ Fail-Safe. Safe enough to get you home even if three strings cratered, and for anything short of that, you just kept on operating. And launching. Strange as it may seem today, the original design intent of the program was to be able to absorb hardware problems and keep the missions going. People intended to launch with one out of five computers down, for instance, and the very nature of the processing time required was predicated on the notion that not every system or subsystem would be checked out between flights. The redundancy in the hardware, it was thought, would preclude that necessity.

So the shuttle was styled as something of a space truck, fitting enough since the design team was based in Texas, but there was more to it than that. The people of Apollo had seen all sorts of heavy duty adventure take place eight light seconds away on the Moon's near side. There was no reason to suppose that would be different in the future. "I think what we are finding difficult is that since the '60s, society has become far more risk averse than was the case previously," Loftus noted.
Of course, for it to get the flight rates required to get the above treatment in a hangar, you would've had to spend a bit over twice the money spent on the Shuttle to get a fully reusable flyback booster; which would have eliminated both STS-51L and STS-107's losses.
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Interesting, although that's not exactly what I was getting at- I was looking at the squat "shuttle" in the picture and wondering how practical it is.
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Its not the best drawing, and would work fine, endless shuttle configurations would work. This one looks like one of the configurations that would hold a small rather than a large crew, keeping with the cargo truck role, so its inherently going to be shorter than what we got. Shep's next photo shows it from a better angle for judging length. Notice cargo bay doors go right up to behind the cockpit.
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