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Cossacks in Modern Russia (1991-present)

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Vympel
PostPosted: 2010-06-07 11:31pm 

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I was wondering if anyone had any insight into the status of Cossacks in Russia after the fall of the USSR?

I was reading the reply of that Cossack Host to the Turkish Sultan and laughing my ass off again, and decided to see what I could find out - but Wikipedia makes me feel dirty.
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Artemas
PostPosted: 2010-06-08 12:47am 

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Which reply was that?
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Vympel
PostPosted: 2010-06-08 01:47am 

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This one

Mehmed IV wrote:
As the Sultan; son of Muhammad; brother of the Sun and Moon; grandson and viceroy of God; ruler of the kingdoms of Macedonia, Babylon, Jerusalem, Upper and Lower Egypt; emperor of emperors; sovereign of sovereigns; extraordinary knight, never defeated; steadfast guardian of the tomb of Jesus Christ; trustee chosen by God himself; the hope and comfort of Muslims; confounder and great defender of Christians—I command you, the Zaporozhian Cossacks, to submit to me voluntarily and without any resistance, and to desist from troubling me with your attacks.


Cossacks wrote:
Zaporozhian Cossacks to the Turkish Sultan!

Thou art a turkish imp, the damned devil's brother and friend, and a secretary to Lucifer himself. What the devil kind of knight art thou that cannot slay a hedgehog with your naked arse? The devil shits, and your army eats. Thou a son of a bitch wilt not ever make subjects of Christian sons; we have no fear of your army, by land and by sea we will battle with thee, fuck thy mother.

Thou art the Babylonian scullion, Macedonian wheelwright, brewer of Jerusalem, goat-fucker of Alexandria, swineherd of Greater and Lesser Egypt, Armenian pig, Podolian villain, catamite of Tartary, hangman of Kamyanets, and fool of all the world and underworld, a fool before our God, a grandson of the Serpent, and the crick in our dick. Pig's snout, mare's arse, slaughterhouse cur, unchristened brow, screw thine own mother!

So the Zaporozhians declare, you lowlife. Thou wilt not even be herding Christian pigs. Now we shall conclude, for we don't know the date and don't have a calendar; the moon's in the sky, the year in the book, the day's the same over here as it is over there; for this kiss our arse!
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Artemas
PostPosted: 2010-06-08 02:30am 

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The more things change, the more the insults stay the same.

Fuck thy mother!
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Stas Bush
PostPosted: 2010-06-08 05:28am 

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Vympel wrote:
I was wondering if anyone had any insight into the status of Cossacks in Russia after the fall of the USSR?

Just what exactly...? The Cossacks have seen something of a revival, but if there are particular details that interest you, go on.
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Vympel
PostPosted: 2010-06-08 06:15am 

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What's their status in the military, if any? Have things changed for them that much (in terms of social/ political standing) in a positive fashion since the fall of the USSR? My understanding is yes - if so, where did all these feelings come from?
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PostPosted: 2010-06-08 12:14pm 

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