Warhammer 40K VS Star Trek - A fan's analysis.

[SpaceMarine93]

Having seen enough Star Wars VS Star Trek debates, it wouldn't be surprising when some sci-fi fans decide to pit Star Trek against somebody else. One fan, Hugh Fox III, had such an idea, with the opponent being Warhammer 40K.

In his website, he devotes an entire essay analyzing the strengths, weaknesses, capabilities and technologies of not only the Federation and the Imperium, but almost every faction from both universes, and writes a few scenarios in which details the outcome of a potential conflict between Star Trek and Warhammer 40K universes, escalating the number of participants and intensity along the way (though some are improbable, and the last scenario is just for the lulz). He makes the rather interesting conclusion that while the Imperium would definitely curbstomp the Federation, if every faction, race and superbeings from both Universes enters an all out war with one another the Star Trek Universe might actually win out.

Of course, his analysis may not be valid. I think its just interesting. What do you guys think?

Source: http://foxhugh.wordpress.com/fiction/st ... ammer-40k/

Edit: Some wording changes, plus this irresistible demotivational poster:

http://foxhugh.files.wordpress.com/2010 ... er-40k.jpg

[S.L.Acker]

It's pure fluff, he gives no numbers for anything, he hardly touches on why he thinks certain things will happen. This is hardly worth talking about.

The Q wank, while ignoring the power of the C'Tan and the literal gods on the 40k side is also irksome.

[white_rabbit]

I remember that blog post.

Its the one where the guy lists all the ground weapons he can think of from 40k and trek, except he includes starship weapons for trek and starts talking about how 40k might have an advantage, except humans can use Q weapons, and the Borg build super mines blah blah, so trek wins!

Waste of time reading it, and a waste of time going into any sort of the detail with it. Typical fuckwit fanboy poster.

Much like the thread author if I recall correctly anyway.

Coincidence?


Actually, I need to revise this, I'd forgotten how batshit insane this guy was, what with the sheer volume of madfuck stuff, as well as the whole werefox furry thing.

I don't think he's a fanboy, I think he might just be bugfuck crazy.

[lordofchange13]

white_rabbit
You signature says it all for this thread.

[Connor MacLeod]

There's a saying specifically dedicated to 40K vs Trek, which I will helpfully borrow from White Rabbit:

OH GOD WHY

That is about as much an essay as my work is an in-depth government-accredited research project. Which is to say, not at all. And even aside from that, it assumes there is actual merit in a ST vs 40K debate. To which I point you to the above link as a rebuttal. At least with SW vs ST you can hope for some variation on the 'starships blow each other up' themes - there's room for economic or diplomatic/political manuverings of some kind or another. 40K is alot less likely to opt for those and more to 'conquer or destroy all in their path' - which is both one dimesnional without much scope for exploration.

At which point everything degenerates into "CHAOS DESTROYS TREK" or "TIME TRAVELLING PHASED CLOAKED BORGED Q WIN!" or something.

[lordofchange13]

Or perhaps Slaanesh and a Q have that weird finger intercourse and breed a race of super gods that conquere the whole of the Multiverse!

[SpaceMarine93]

Huh. I knew it. Just fan wank and nothing more.

So really, if the Imperium do invade Star Trek Universe, would it really be an epic curbstomp on nearly everyone there?

[S.L.Acker]

Going, I knew it was fan wank all along! After not taking any strong position in the OP is just sad man. You should have been able to rip that a new one all by yourself.

[Batman]

Insufficient data. From what I can tell, the Imperium have their hands full in their own universe, so there's the question of how much of their might they can actually devote to this invasion, how do their supply lines look, and what if anything do the Trek quasiomnipotents decide to do (if the Q are anything to go by, no, them deciding to help is not a foregone conclusion).

[Connor MacLeod]

It's not 'fan wank' its pointless as a topic of discussion. There's nothing substantive to discuss, and unless it degenerates into 'hur hur stoopid trekkies' nonsense there's nothing to be gotten out of it. Any "ST vs 40K" discussion invariably will follow the same formula as SW vs ST, except you exchange robes and laser swords for chainsaws and huge pauldrons, and the only 'variety' is in the degree of win/loss or the inevitable escalation as nebulous superbeings get involved. I already wasted years on the SWvsST thing, no real urge to repeat it.

[edaw1982]

Or perhaps Slaanesh and a Q have that weird finger intercourse and breed a race of super gods that conquere the whole of the Multiverse!

Funny, I always pegged Papa Nurgle as the more open-minded of that bunch. MMm, a three-way between Slaanesh, Q and Nurgle.
Feel free to down the brain-bleach at your leisure.

[lordofchange13]

Q is all about mischief for the lols, while Nurgle is all about slow dismal decay. They could not a good couple.