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Just got back from the 10 P.M. showing. I really don't have time to write a lot of comments other than that I really liked it, but I'd love to hear yours.

One thing I will say, is that this film will probably have the poorest box office performance of any comic book movie in recent memory. I'd be surprised if it does around 120 million.

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I thought the film was very well done and very complex. The action was done particularly well and all of the sub plots fit perfectly. I see it doing $750 million and winning Ang Lee and Eric Bana Oscars. The special effects were not as over the tp as I'd thought they were going to be.
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Does anyone else find it funny that Eric Bana is playing Bruce Banner?
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Gandalf wrote:Does anyone else find it funny that Eric Bana is playing Bruce Banner?
I hear "Eric Bana" and I keep thinking of the character in "Black Hawk Down".
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I'm not going to see it in theaters, I find the hulk to be an extremely stupid character and the idiotic of him hanging on an F-22 and RAH-66 drives me insane. Not to mention all the military vehicles coming within a few feet so he can grab them.
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Darth Wong wrote:
Gandalf wrote:Does anyone else find it funny that Eric Bana is playing Bruce Banner?
I hear "Eric Bana" and I keep thinking of the character in "Black Hawk Down".
In Canada/US, how do you hear Bana pronounced?
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Sea Skimmer wrote:I'm not going to see it in theaters, I find the hulk to be an extremely stupid character and the idiotic of him hanging on an F-22 and RAH-66 drives me insane. Not to mention all the military vehicles coming within a few feet so he can grab them.
I have the same problem. The throwing of the tank irritates me most though.
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I saw it tonight and felt it to be a good movie showing for the Hulk. Having read alot of the series as an adolescent it was a Hulk comic through and through. I was gladly willing to suspend disbelief because in Hulk comics such odd things as Hulk landing on planes and them not automatically drastically changing course were par for the course. Viewed in the sense that it is just another issue of The INcredible Hulk I feel very justified in my liking of the movie.

Of all the comic book movies so far it is the one that is closest to being an actual issue of the series.
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Went and saw it at 3:45 this afternoon and the theater was sold out (as was the show before it) and thought it was a damn cool comic movie with some great sequences (albeit most of them were pretty over the top).

And Skimmer most of the time it's him going to the vehicles not the vehicles coming to him. The tank scene has them starting from a good distance off (though it did weird out in that none of them tried firing on the move to keep away from him.. though with how fast we see him running it would have been pretty pointless to try).

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Why am I not surprised that my fellow HAB comrades didn't like Hulk smashing up tanks and such. :lol:

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I thought it was excellent. Perhaps a little too slow-moving in the beginning, but really excellent none-the-less. And the tanks didn't intentionally get in close enough, but he can move extremely fast, especially when leaping. As far as the tank throwing scene goes, it's not hard for a Hulk afficiado to swallow at all. He gets stronger the angrier he gets, and he's picked up and thrown things that make a 70 ton tank seem like a frisbee.
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I would've prferred that if he was going to chuck the tank, at least don't grab it by the barrel, which is just stupid.

But hey, it's a Hulk movie. I don't expect realism. I just wanna see him smash shit.

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Aya wrote:
Skimmer: You have to understand the Hulk. He's more than a huge green beast that likes to go smashy smashy on things. He's the embodiment of the darkside of humanity. He's what we try to hide in the darkest corners of our minds and try to wish away, but we know it's still there.
Wow, that would be enlightening if I didn't already know it and hadn't already heard it from other Hulk fans. I've always found him stupid and I dont see a movie changing that.
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Arthur_Tuxedo wrote:I thought it was excellent. Perhaps a little too slow-moving in the beginning, but really excellent none-the-less. And the tanks didn't intentionally get in close enough, but he can move extremely fast, especially when leaping. As far as the tank throwing scene goes, it's not hard for a Hulk afficiado to swallow at all. He gets stronger the angrier he gets, and he's picked up and thrown things that make a 70 ton tank seem like a frisbee.

Know what holds the turret of a tank on? Gravity only. And the recoil cylinders holding the gun in are certainly not going to support the tanks weight.
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Gandalf wrote:In Canada/US, how do you hear Bana pronounced?
"Bah-nah"
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Robert Treder wrote:
Gandalf wrote:In Canada/US, how do you hear Bana pronounced?
"Bah-nah"
BAH-NAH?!!?!

WTF?

Pronounce it banner. That's how we Aussies say it.
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Sea Skimmer wrote:
Aya wrote:
Skimmer: You have to understand the Hulk. He's more than a huge green beast that likes to go smashy smashy on things. He's the embodiment of the darkside of humanity. He's what we try to hide in the darkest corners of our minds and try to wish away, but we know it's still there.
Wow, that would be enlightening if I didn't already know it and hadn't already heard it from other Hulk fans. I've always found him stupid and I dont see a movie changing that.
Bah, big green guy smash stuff, about as stupid as anything else Marvel has ever made.
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Vympel wrote:I would've prferred that if he was going to chuck the tank, at least don't grab it by the barrel, which is just stupid.

But hey, it's a Hulk movie. I don't expect realism. I just wanna see him smash shit.

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I thought it was 'Poida'. Poi - da.

We Australians cannot explain what 'Poida' is.

It is something you have to see for yourself ...

And he also does a fair Columbo impersonation as well.

What else? He did Keanu Reeve's character on Speed (when Spielberg does an 'On The Buses' movie) ...

... can't remember anything else that Americans would recognise (his Ray Martin work was always good for a laugh ...)
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Darth Wong wrote:
Gandalf wrote:Does anyone else find it funny that Eric Bana is playing Bruce Banner?
I hear "Eric Bana" and I keep thinking of the character in "Black Hawk Down".
What about Chopper?

And I think that Bulletproof Monk will have a lower box office take then Hulk.
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Sea Skimmer wrote:
Arthur_Tuxedo wrote:I thought it was excellent. Perhaps a little too slow-moving in the beginning, but really excellent none-the-less. And the tanks didn't intentionally get in close enough, but he can move extremely fast, especially when leaping. As far as the tank throwing scene goes, it's not hard for a Hulk afficiado to swallow at all. He gets stronger the angrier he gets, and he's picked up and thrown things that make a 70 ton tank seem like a frisbee.

Know what holds the turret of a tank on? Gravity only. And the recoil cylinders holding the gun in are certainly not going to support the tanks weight.
They'd need to hold far more though, given how fast it was spinning.
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No one pronounces it "bah-nah" where I live. I pronounce it "ban-uh".
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Vympel wrote:
Robert Treder wrote:
Gandalf wrote:In Canada/US, how do you hear Bana pronounced?
"Bah-nah"
BAH-NAH?!!?!

WTF?

Pronounce it banner. That's how we Aussies say it.
Is it really that amazing? That is, after all, how it's spelled. There is no 'r' in "Bana", in case you didn't notice.
And he's not at all a famous actor here, so it's not like we've seen his Australian work to figure out how he likes it said. The vast majority of Americans wouldn't have recognized him before The Hulk came out, I assure you. And those who would (like me) would only know him from Black Hawk Down.
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Too slow in the beginning, too many scenes where nothing happens (such as all those "meeting" scenes early in the film where no one actually gives any new information,) the split-screens and odd angle changes were distracting and added nothing to the movie, the characters were never really developed beyond their archetypes, and that whole "chameleon" subplot just plain sucked. Did they have to have him fight a supervillain at the end, especially one that just seemed to be tacked in there at the last minute?

Plus, it really annoyed me that they had to use all three over-used sci-fi "magic" techs. I'll accept the radiation because that's what happened in the comics. I'll even accept the genetic engineering because it's a bit harder to sell radiation-induced super-powers to modern audiences, plus it was necessary for the whole "passed from father to son" bit. But why did they have to add nanotech into the mix?
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One of my acting teachers is friends with the guy who played the young Sam Elliott. Which is cool. As was the movie.
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Don't overthink a Hulk movie.
You will enjoy the movie if all you want is to see someone get angry, turn green, then smash shit.
If you expected shakespearian acting, go to a real theater, if you expect scientific accuracy, watch PBS. If you want to see tanks and planes being thrown around by a 10 foot tall jolly green giant impersonator, watch the Hulk.
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