The Dark Knight Rises (Spoilers)
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The Dark Knight Rises (Spoilers)
Someone may as well make a thread.
It's out on Friday and the reviews are coming in. So far it is extremely well-liked. I personally have zero expectations for it because I can't stand Nolan as a filmmaker and the Dark Knight never held up for me on subsequent viewings. Its sequel has one thing going for it, though: the Joker is absent.
I'll just leave the thread here so people can get into it as the week progresses.
It's out on Friday and the reviews are coming in. So far it is extremely well-liked. I personally have zero expectations for it because I can't stand Nolan as a filmmaker and the Dark Knight never held up for me on subsequent viewings. Its sequel has one thing going for it, though: the Joker is absent.
I'll just leave the thread here so people can get into it as the week progresses.
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The only reason I know of Nolan to begin with are the recent Me movies (if you'd asked me to name any other movie he was involved with I'd have to pass) and those were brilliant (despite my documented hatred of the suits). What is it you dislike about Nolan in general and his Me movies in particular?
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'Tactically we have multiple objectives. So we need to split into teams.'-'Dibs on the Amazon!'
'Hey, we both have a Martian's phone number on our speed dial. I think I deserve the benefit of the doubt.'
'You know, for a guy with like 50 different kinds of vision, you sure are blind.'
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I find him visually bland and I don't like the way female characters are written. Though I don't think the female problem will be an issue here because at the moment I can't of a reason why Bats would be a whiny baby because of Catwoman. Also, the exclusion of Joker will be amazing because it may not be a contrived mess like TDK was.
For a second there I had to wonder what the crap "Me movies" meant but then I looked to my left and saw your username. :D
For a second there I had to wonder what the crap "Me movies" meant but then I looked to my left and saw your username. :D
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That I insist I'm actually positively Me isn't exactly a recent phenomenon you know. The Joker not being in it was a forgone conclusion what with Heith Ledger being dead and how was TDK a contrived mess?
'Next time I let Superman take charge, just hit me. Real hard.'
'You're a princess from a society of immortal warriors. I'm a rich kid with issues. Lots of issues.'
'No. No dating for the Batman. It might cut into your brooding time.'
'Tactically we have multiple objectives. So we need to split into teams.'-'Dibs on the Amazon!'
'Hey, we both have a Martian's phone number on our speed dial. I think I deserve the benefit of the doubt.'
'You know, for a guy with like 50 different kinds of vision, you sure are blind.'
'You're a princess from a society of immortal warriors. I'm a rich kid with issues. Lots of issues.'
'No. No dating for the Batman. It might cut into your brooding time.'
'Tactically we have multiple objectives. So we need to split into teams.'-'Dibs on the Amazon!'
'Hey, we both have a Martian's phone number on our speed dial. I think I deserve the benefit of the doubt.'
'You know, for a guy with like 50 different kinds of vision, you sure are blind.'
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I've been absent from the forum for a while.Batman wrote:That I insist I'm actually positively Me isn't exactly a recent phenomenon you know. The Joker not being in it was a forgone conclusion what with Heith Ledger being dead and how was TDK a contrived mess?
Everything had to work perfectly for the Joker's omniscient abilities to work. But that's not really the biggest issue I have with TDK. My main issues lie with the writing and the heavy-handed commentary on the political realm in America. You know, the Patriot Act reference and the unsubtle "no one should have this much power" stuff. Usually that's not a problem for me if what I'm watching is that way from the start (like Sorkin's Newsroom, where he preaches like hell because he sees this ideal world for news broadcast). I just don't think it works with TDK. Plus, the action is so damned boring and the elongated run time plays a part in the third act falling to pieces with set piece after set piece of action and inane chaos and anarchy commentary that is in no way insightful or engaging.
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Um-I've been insisting I'm actually Batman for like ten years?
'Next time I let Superman take charge, just hit me. Real hard.'
'You're a princess from a society of immortal warriors. I'm a rich kid with issues. Lots of issues.'
'No. No dating for the Batman. It might cut into your brooding time.'
'Tactically we have multiple objectives. So we need to split into teams.'-'Dibs on the Amazon!'
'Hey, we both have a Martian's phone number on our speed dial. I think I deserve the benefit of the doubt.'
'You know, for a guy with like 50 different kinds of vision, you sure are blind.'
'You're a princess from a society of immortal warriors. I'm a rich kid with issues. Lots of issues.'
'No. No dating for the Batman. It might cut into your brooding time.'
'Tactically we have multiple objectives. So we need to split into teams.'-'Dibs on the Amazon!'
'Hey, we both have a Martian's phone number on our speed dial. I think I deserve the benefit of the doubt.'
'You know, for a guy with like 50 different kinds of vision, you sure are blind.'
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Dude, is this something that's really bothering you? Of all that I've written in this thread, me not immediately recognizing your poor joke is something that's off-putting? I just didn't catch it when I read your post for the first time. Jesus.
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It's something that I'm used to people knowing since I've been doing it pretty much since I've joined this board. No, it doesn't bother me, I'm just no longer used to people not knowing.
'Next time I let Superman take charge, just hit me. Real hard.'
'You're a princess from a society of immortal warriors. I'm a rich kid with issues. Lots of issues.'
'No. No dating for the Batman. It might cut into your brooding time.'
'Tactically we have multiple objectives. So we need to split into teams.'-'Dibs on the Amazon!'
'Hey, we both have a Martian's phone number on our speed dial. I think I deserve the benefit of the doubt.'
'You know, for a guy with like 50 different kinds of vision, you sure are blind.'
'You're a princess from a society of immortal warriors. I'm a rich kid with issues. Lots of issues.'
'No. No dating for the Batman. It might cut into your brooding time.'
'Tactically we have multiple objectives. So we need to split into teams.'-'Dibs on the Amazon!'
'Hey, we both have a Martian's phone number on our speed dial. I think I deserve the benefit of the doubt.'
'You know, for a guy with like 50 different kinds of vision, you sure are blind.'
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Whoever goes to see the movie, let us know your impression on the Superman trailer\teaser that is supposed to show (AFAIK) before TDKR starts. I'm hoping the Superman movie will do better than the last since it is reported that the main villain is Zod but I still have the nagging feeling that Cavill's Supes still looks like he's part of the Sicilian Mob.
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I'm seeing it Saturday meaning I will certainly know everything about it BEFORE I go in.
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Wait, what, there's a new Superman movie coming?
'Next time I let Superman take charge, just hit me. Real hard.'
'You're a princess from a society of immortal warriors. I'm a rich kid with issues. Lots of issues.'
'No. No dating for the Batman. It might cut into your brooding time.'
'Tactically we have multiple objectives. So we need to split into teams.'-'Dibs on the Amazon!'
'Hey, we both have a Martian's phone number on our speed dial. I think I deserve the benefit of the doubt.'
'You know, for a guy with like 50 different kinds of vision, you sure are blind.'
'You're a princess from a society of immortal warriors. I'm a rich kid with issues. Lots of issues.'
'No. No dating for the Batman. It might cut into your brooding time.'
'Tactically we have multiple objectives. So we need to split into teams.'-'Dibs on the Amazon!'
'Hey, we both have a Martian's phone number on our speed dial. I think I deserve the benefit of the doubt.'
'You know, for a guy with like 50 different kinds of vision, you sure are blind.'
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No, No. They're not making a Superman movie, they're making a Man of Steel movie. That's next summer though.Batman wrote:Wait, what, there's a new Superman movie coming?
Why are you surprised? You and Clark are the twin pillars holding up DC's bottomline and always have been.
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I'm not surprised they're doing it, I'm surprised because this the first time I heard of it.
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Shut up.
And given how not awesome Superman Returns was I'm not necessarily thrilled about them doing another Clark movie.
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Shut up.
And given how not awesome Superman Returns was I'm not necessarily thrilled about them doing another Clark movie.
'Next time I let Superman take charge, just hit me. Real hard.'
'You're a princess from a society of immortal warriors. I'm a rich kid with issues. Lots of issues.'
'No. No dating for the Batman. It might cut into your brooding time.'
'Tactically we have multiple objectives. So we need to split into teams.'-'Dibs on the Amazon!'
'Hey, we both have a Martian's phone number on our speed dial. I think I deserve the benefit of the doubt.'
'You know, for a guy with like 50 different kinds of vision, you sure are blind.'
'You're a princess from a society of immortal warriors. I'm a rich kid with issues. Lots of issues.'
'No. No dating for the Batman. It might cut into your brooding time.'
'Tactically we have multiple objectives. So we need to split into teams.'-'Dibs on the Amazon!'
'Hey, we both have a Martian's phone number on our speed dial. I think I deserve the benefit of the doubt.'
'You know, for a guy with like 50 different kinds of vision, you sure are blind.'
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Yeah, I believe Zack Synder's directing. But don't worry so much Bats, this won't follow from that piece of shit. In fact, they're going to do away with all previous movie continuity and open on a rural couple finding a baby that can lift their truck. Something exciting that the fans have never seen before.Batman wrote:I'm not surprised they're doing it, I'm surprised because this the first time I heard of it.
World's Greatest Detective my
Shut up.
And given how not awesome Superman Returns was I'm not necessarily thrilled about them doing another Clark movie.
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So ... you made a thread about the Dark Knight Rises a week before the movie even comes out (having not seen it yourself). And you're using it as a forum to bitch about Nolan why ... ? No one is even talking about the movie this thread is supposed to be about.JLTucker wrote:Someone may as well make a thread.
It's out on Friday and the reviews are coming in. So far it is extremely well-liked. I personally have zero expectations for it because I can't stand Nolan as a filmmaker and the Dark Knight never held up for me on subsequent viewings. Its sequel has one thing going for it, though: the Joker is absent.
I'll just leave the thread here so people can get into it as the week progresses.
Hey, I have no interest in seeing Step Up Revolution next week, so I guess I'll make a thread about that in a bit.
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I'm really looking forward to it. The Dark Knight is easily my favorite comic book movie, and I want to see how it all ends.
As for Nolan's take, well, it's not for everybody. I'm betting the next reboot of Batman (likely in 2014-15) will be lighter and cheesier. I say "2014" because DC doesn't have any other successful comic book franchises out there, so you can bet they'll re-boot Batman ASAP.
As for Nolan's take, well, it's not for everybody. I'm betting the next reboot of Batman (likely in 2014-15) will be lighter and cheesier. I say "2014" because DC doesn't have any other successful comic book franchises out there, so you can bet they'll re-boot Batman ASAP.
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Oh fuck off, you little shit. I already bought a ticket to see it earlier this month. I made the thread just to get things started since critic reviews were coming in, as could be deduced by the opening post. Thanks for your non-contribution, the bastion of SDN these days when it comes to art.One Two wrote:JLTucker wrote:So ... you made a thread about the Dark Knight Rises a week before the movie even comes out (having not seen it yourself). And you're using it as a forum to bitch about Nolan why ... ? No one is even talking about the movie this thread is supposed to be about.
Hey, I have no interest in seeing Step Up Revolution next week, so I guess I'll make a thread about that in a bit.
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I want to apologize for the inflammatory remark, One Two. You asked a simple question and it has a simple answer.
To clarify, even though I do not like TDK, I was invited by a friend to see this. I have never seen a film on an IMAX screen and it's because of this that we're trekking 40 miles to see it to make a day out of it. I also saw the other two theatrically so the OCD in me said "complete the trilogy on the big screen."
To clarify, even though I do not like TDK, I was invited by a friend to see this. I have never seen a film on an IMAX screen and it's because of this that we're trekking 40 miles to see it to make a day out of it. I also saw the other two theatrically so the OCD in me said "complete the trilogy on the big screen."
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Just saw the movie. It is really quite epic in scope. Spoiler
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Haven't seen it obviously but the creators of Bane are real mad that Rush thought he was an attempt to mock Romney instead of the real bad guys, Occupiers.
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Just saw it. It's as good as TDK, but I'm hesitant to call it better. I picked the whole plot about twenty minutes in, but enjoyed it nonetheless.
The highlight was probably the first Batman/Bane fight. An out of shape Batman gets his clock cleaned, with the famous back breaker.
Also, I liked the ending overall. The Robin thing was weird, but I've no issue with it.
No Superman trailer.
The highlight was probably the first Batman/Bane fight. An out of shape Batman gets his clock cleaned, with the famous back breaker.
Also, I liked the ending overall. The Robin thing was weird, but I've no issue with it.
No Superman trailer.
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Haven't seen it yet, but I remember getting into fights with fanboys back when TDK came out about how I was a whiny bitch for not being a fan of the treatment of Babs jnr and Renee Montoya Anna Ramirez. The argument was that of COURSE James jnr would be given all the scenes, because Nolan wanted to steer clear of Batgirls and Robins because ew icky.
So having said that, if the rumours are true that Spoiler
...and thrilled, because yay.
And pissed off.
Probably mostly pissed off because Bale's Peter Serafinowicz impression drives me bonkers.
So having said that, if the rumours are true that Spoiler
I'm going to be a little pissed off.
...and thrilled, because yay.
And pissed off.
Probably mostly pissed off because Bale's Peter Serafinowicz impression drives me bonkers.
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Extra thoughts:
I liked the theme of the film relating to Gotham's "underclasses." It worked well with similar themes in Batman Begins. When people are marginalised, they don't disappear.
Killer Croc reference!
I have a ridiculously small role in the film. The Bane chant heard on the soundtrack used thousands of voices from around the world, one of which belonged to yours truly.
Well acted all around, especially Michael Caine.
Also, this is the least annoying Catwoman ever. Thank fuck she finally has a decent motivation for stuff, basically trying to be Robin Hood.
I liked the theme of the film relating to Gotham's "underclasses." It worked well with similar themes in Batman Begins. When people are marginalised, they don't disappear.
Killer Croc reference!
I have a ridiculously small role in the film. The Bane chant heard on the soundtrack used thousands of voices from around the world, one of which belonged to yours truly.
Well acted all around, especially Michael Caine.
Also, this is the least annoying Catwoman ever. Thank fuck she finally has a decent motivation for stuff, basically trying to be Robin Hood.
"Oh no, oh yeah, tell me how can it be so fair
That we dying younger hiding from the police man over there
Just for breathing in the air they wanna leave me in the chair
Electric shocking body rocking beat streeting me to death"
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"I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately."
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That we dying younger hiding from the police man over there
Just for breathing in the air they wanna leave me in the chair
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Before I go into my review, I was strongly recommend that you watch Batman Begins (if you haven't) to understand this film better. This film has more in common with Batman Begins than TDK. In a way, you can probably skip the second movie and still understand this movie pretty well. However, if you are not familiar with the first one, there are certain elements in the movie that might confuse you.
A much longer review and my thoughts on the movie:
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A much longer review and my thoughts on the movie:
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Ray, when you say "the audience," do you mean yourself?
Because the story points you mentioned as confusing seemed pretty damn obvious.
Because the story points you mentioned as confusing seemed pretty damn obvious.
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"I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately."
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Just for breathing in the air they wanna leave me in the chair
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"I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately."
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