Simon_Jester wrote:And we have no reason to assume that Penelope is related to a black dragon. I don't think that the Familicide spell would target her, since she's not even slightly of the same bloodline as any possible dragon-descended members of Girard's clan.
Penelope had a daughter with Orrin, so the familicide affects her as well
We never found out exactly what the spell affects. The dragon V targeted directly had no descendants, so presumably it first targeted her own parents (if they were still alive), her siblings, their
descendants, then her first cousins and their descendants, and so on.
And as for Penelope... again, what does the spell target? Does it target husbands and wives of those it kills? Does it then target their
relatives? Where would that ever stop?
There has to be a limit, or the spell would wipe out all life on Earth (not that its creator would have minded this, I suspect). And we haven't seen any
evidence of anyone definitely killed by the Familicide except for black dragons and half-black-dragons.
Maybe the save DC is ridiculously high for immediate relatives, but gets lower as the degree of consanguinity drops off, so that it's actually pretty easy for a seventh cousin four times removed or whatever to resist the effect.
Then again, it also depends on how long ago the creation of the world was in this setting- if the world's only existed for a thousand years, and if the original population of black dragons included many specimens, there might be no genetic link whatsoever between this particular
black dragon and another one on the other side of the planet. In which case the spell wouldn't kill everyone, just (roughly) "something" times 2^N or so beings, where N is the number of black dragon generations since the beginning of the world.
In any case, it would be a huge and weird coincidence if Girard just happened
to have been the third cousin or whatever of the black dragon V hit with Familicide. So I'd rate that possibility as less likely than "it's all a trick" or "some third party killed them all." We know Xykon was able to pretty much wipe out the Sapphire Guard and break down Dorukan's defenses more or less single-handedly, and there's no obvious reason he wouldn't be equally able to take out Girard's clan of illusionists if he got there first.
CarsonPalmer wrote:Girard may also have been dead already. There is a statue of him there, which would be rather unusual for a living person, even a living patriarch. Even if we assume that he is still alive and it was familicide, how would he know who cast the spell?
All very true. He might find out who did it using Spellcraft and divination magic; an expert in hiding things by illusion might also be an expert in penetrating illusions and revealing secret information.
Raesene wrote:According to the OotS-wiki page of Soon, the Order of the Scribble found the gates 66 years ago. Girard might have died permantly because of natural couses (which prevent resurrection) )in the meantime. Excluding of course the possibility he found magical ways to prolong his life. I can't say I find one way or the other more likely at the moment.
Hard to say. Dorukan was still alive until Xykon killed him, and Girard's magical powers were roughly equal in strength, just differently specialized. I wouldn't put it past him to artificially extend his lifespan; master wizards have a habit of doing that in fiction and Stickworld definitely runs on literary genre conventions.
I doubt it's Xykon, there are no effects of Meteor Swarms visible.
There wasn't a lot of evidence of Meteor Swarms visible in the Azure City throne room either- "follow the bouncing ball." Xykon's quite capable of getting creative when it comes to wiping out swarms of mid-level opponents. But I don't think it's very likely to be him, either- I just think it would be a much bigger coincidence, a sort of diabolus ex machina
, if it was the Familicide spell that did it.