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Quote of the Week: "A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within." - Will Durant, American historian (1885-1981)

Dammit, I'm going to have to buy this book, aren't I?

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Anguirus
PostPosted: 2012-03-01 07:31pm 

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http://io9.com/5889747/breathtaking-art ... -star-wars

Every time I think I'm "out" of Star Wars, someone's gotta suck me back in with a promising book.

I actually look forward to an attempt to synthesize all of the mind-contorting contradictions that were wrestled around on this site way back when (well maybe it still does, I haven't been checking out his forum in awhile). What I don't look forward to are stupid decrees about there only being a million clone troops...for god's sake, that number even showed up in the otherwise enjoyable Darth Plagueis.
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Eleas
PostPosted: 2012-03-02 04:51am 

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Anguirus wrote:
http://io9.com/5889747/breathtaking-art-that-puts-the-wars-in-star-wars

Every time I think I'm "out" of Star Wars, someone's gotta suck me back in with a promising book.

I actually look forward to an attempt to synthesize all of the mind-contorting contradictions that were wrestled around on this site way back when (well maybe it still does, I haven't been checking out his forum in awhile). What I don't look forward to are stupid decrees about there only being a million clone troops...for god's sake, that number even showed up in the otherwise enjoyable Darth Plagueis.


Amusing to see Elim Garak trolling the comments. Man, it's like stepping back in time.
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Anguirus
PostPosted: 2012-03-02 12:37pm 

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Well I can't exactly argue with this:

Quote:
Let alone what weaponry of that level would do on a planetary surface. SW ground combat seems to use 19th century war tactics (at least in the prequels) - a bunch of people all stand up and run in one direction, while the other side stand up and run towards them. They all fire and die. By WWI everybody already realized that trenches are good - yet these guys apparently have not.


This alone annoys me so much that I've hardly watched Clone Wars.

But yeah, it's totally really funny that he started immediately yelling about gigatons apropos of nothing.
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fractalsponge1
PostPosted: 2012-03-02 12:51pm 

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Well, I can tell you that the artwork should be interesting for this book :P.
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Thanas
PostPosted: 2012-03-02 12:54pm 

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I think it simply falls down to genre conventions. Nobody wants to give up dramatic close-quarter fights with valiantly Jedi, so the disparity between what should and does happen in space and what is going on on the ground is rather large.
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fordlltwm
PostPosted: 2012-03-02 12:56pm 

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And someone else bought up the Parsec thing again.

It's clear in Rebel Dawn that he managed to shave some distance off the Kessel run (by getting even closer to the black holes) whilst running from the imperials.

Sorry, it's one of my pet hates "Lol Lucas / Han Solo don't know what a parsec is"
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Adamskywalker007
PostPosted: 2012-03-03 02:46pm 

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Anguirus wrote:
.for god's sake, that number even showed up in the otherwise enjoyable Darth Plagueis.

That is one thing about Luceno that is slightly annoying, his tendency to by a hyper inclusionist to the point of including elements from the EU that detract from his stories in that it becomes almost difficult to read due to the large number of references to other things without context.

On another note, is this the first canon example of female stormtroopers?
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Stofsk
PostPosted: 2012-03-03 05:37pm 

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Anguirus wrote:
http://io9.com/5889747/breathtaking-art-that-puts-the-wars-in-star-wars

Every time I think I'm "out" of Star Wars, someone's gotta suck me back in with a promising book.

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Ford Prefect
PostPosted: 2012-03-05 07:21am 

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Frankly, compared to some the other art related books this looks really amateurish.
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Darth Yan
PostPosted: 2012-03-07 12:13pm 

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Maybe, but some of it seems pretty good in general. Hardly crap.
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Skgoa
PostPosted: 2012-03-11 11:36am 

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fordlltwm wrote:
And someone else bought up the Parsec thing again.

It's clear in Rebel Dawn that he managed to shave some distance off the Kessel run (by getting even closer to the black holes) whilst running from the imperials.

Sorry, it's one of my pet hates "Lol Lucas / Han Solo don't know what a parsec is"

Actually, I always liked the "Han Solo is trying to impress Obi-Wan with technobabble" explanation more. Unfortunately the EU can't leave anything unanswered, so we got that stupid Kessel run malarkey. IMHO Han was supposed to come across as very
shady, who only in the end became a hero. Of course the spceial edition kills that by changing the order in which the shots are fired (you know what I am talking about) and making him somewhat more heroic on the Death Star.

And I almost added "meaningless" in front of technobbable before I caught myself. :lol:
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JME2
PostPosted: 2012-04-02 12:45pm 

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New images have been posted.

I gotta say, I love seeing another rendition of Luke vs. Shimrra.
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Jim Raynor
PostPosted: 2012-04-02 01:30pm 

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Wow, this book took a while to come out. I remember this being mentioned as one of Karen Traviss's upcoming projects, back whe she was still with the franchise.

Any way, the art does look gorgeous.
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Anguirus
PostPosted: 2012-04-02 01:51pm 

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That last image is totally droolworthy. Who says the "tech-head" fans have no influence on the franchise?

Although Kinect Star Wars looks so freaking bad that I'm tempted to drop the whole brand in retaliation. :lol
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Metahive
PostPosted: 2012-04-02 06:01pm 

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fordlltwm wrote:
And someone else bought up the Parsec thing again.

It's clear in Rebel Dawn that he managed to shave some distance off the Kessel run (by getting even closer to the black holes) whilst running from the imperials.

Sorry, it's one of my pet hates "Lol Lucas / Han Solo don't know what a parsec is"

Ugh, why not go with the "Han tries to bullshit two people he considers country bumpkins" -explanation that doesn't sound like stupid fanwank and is even supported by the script?

Sorry, but that's one of MY pet peeves.
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Havok
PostPosted: 2012-04-02 06:23pm 

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The art, aside from Fractalsponge's entry and the meeting of the rebels ( el oh el at the moron painting a supposedly new X-wing to look like it just got lifted from Dagobah's swamp ) is amateurish at best and down right bad in few cases.
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Vehrec
PostPosted: 2012-04-02 08:55pm 

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The Altor-class seems to be getting a fair-share of press. Maybe they like the boom-arms, I'm sure that that would look very interesting to animate in motion. It's certainly more action than most Star Wars capital ships ever display.
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fractalsponge1
PostPosted: 2012-04-03 10:51am 

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I, personally, am rather amused that Death Squadron apparently has Bellators :p (p. 165).
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Ford Prefect
PostPosted: 2012-04-03 06:03pm 

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Havok wrote:
The art, aside from Fractalsponge's entry and the meeting of the rebels ( el oh el at the moron painting a supposedly new X-wing to look like it just got lifted from Dagobah's swamp ) is amateurish at best and down right bad in few cases.


Yeah, I remain really unimpressed overall. Of the new batch, the only image I actually like is that Star Destroyer commissioning image, and only because of the framing against the clouds.
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Fire Fly
PostPosted: 2012-04-04 02:42pm 

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I had the chance to skim through the book recently while I was at the bookstore. There are interesting tidbits but I'm afraid it's not detailed or new enough for me pay money for it at this moment. My problem with the book is that it is light on "warfare" and heavy on "guide". I was hoping for something remotely resembling wikipedia articles on battles with opposing commanders, dispositions, numbers, formations, objectives, historical background, etc. What is present are anecdotes and historical surveys.
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Darth Yan
PostPosted: 2012-04-04 06:05pm 

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I'm worried because the second author may be connected with Thrawn McEwok (he uses the psuedonymn Paul Uruqhart is from scottland and references being mistaken for an ewok).
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Fire Fly
PostPosted: 2012-04-04 06:26pm 

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Darth Yan wrote:
I'm worried because the second author may be connected with Thrawn McEwok (he uses the psuedonymn Paul Uruqhart is from scottland and references being mistaken for an ewok).


The second author very likely is McEwok. Source
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Darth Yan
PostPosted: 2012-04-04 07:22pm 

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I just hope that he's either matured or that Fry keeps him on a tight leash.
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paladin
PostPosted: 2012-04-04 07:59pm 

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Pardon the stupid question- Based on one of the illustrations, when did the Empire start using female Storm Troopers?
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PilotEwok
PostPosted: 2012-04-05 01:05am 

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One of the original artists has posted a few of his works from the book on his deviantart if anyone is interested.

http://wraithdt.deviantart.com/gallery/
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