chimericoncogene wrote: ↑
Precisely. Some stories haven't been told, or haven't been told well. They can be retold on the big screen, or elements used and kept. If done creatively, the film can be much better than - and different from - the original comic while keeping the best bits.
TFA was far too ambitious in all the wrong ways. In storytelling, it was idiotically conservative. In setting, it went insanely off-track while not giving us anything new. By "new" I mean galacto-political-economic-setting-wise, not story-wise. Stories can be as wild as they want within setting constraints, the more imaginative the better. We're on the same side on this part.
If anything, the Legends EU tended to be painfully small in scope.
Of course. There's never enough "Star" in Star Wars. A desert planet in a binary star system, a few gas giants, ocean worlds, and ringed planets are interesting and reveal a nice understanding of basic astronomy, but the galaxy has far more to offer than boring old main sequence stars and habitable-zone planets!
Neutron stars glowing in x-ray, blasted apart by vast mining complexes for superheavy element production! Jet-black carbon planets made of tar, metal carbides and diamond, overflowing with naturally occuring plutonium and covered in strip mines, rich in the dark side of the Force!
Black holes with time dilation and inescapable Imperial prisons just beyond the event horizon, accessible only by long sublight trips!
Red dwarfs, surrounded by the ruins of ancient civilizations nearly as old as time itself, perfect for Indiana Jones to root through!
Rogue planets covered in plains of solid nitrogen, AT-ATs raising clouds of mist with every footfall!
Titan analogs, Europa analogs, hot Jupiters, super-earths, exotic ices, circumstellar discs rich in minerals, protoplanetary systems in various stages of formation...
White dwarfs, supernovae, red giants, blue giants...
And don't forget supernova remnants, filled with billions of tonnes of glowing radioisotopes and heavy elements, just waiting to be scooped up by lead-lined droid mining ships!
The possibilities are limitless! Which was why we fell in love with Star Wars in the first place!
Sword and sorcery, Wild Wild West, and High Fantasy amongst the stars is only fun if it is indeed happening AMONGST THE STARS!
Well, some more variety of settings certainly couldn't hurt, but it doesn't get to the root of the issue for me, which is the lack of a coherent story which follows logically from what came before while still progressing to something new.
Honestly, when I think about what Disney and Abrams did to the Sequel trilogy, it makes me sick. I think I finally sort of get what all the Prequel bashers saying the new movies raped their childhoods meant, now. I still think that they're twits, but I get how they felt. The world waited thirty years for a sequel trilogy, and they failed to stick the landing. They had so much money and technology and talent at their disposal, and they fucking wasted it on this shitty disjointed fanfic script. Now Rise of Skywalker is the official end of the Skywalker Saga, and also Carrie Fisher's last film appearance, and that's so fucking sad. And even if the will was there to remake it, they can't. Not the way it should have been. Carrie Fisher's dead, and Harrison Ford is ancient, and the fandom is toxic and divided and despised, and this is it, this is what we'll be stuck with. Forever.
Its almost enough to make me give up on the whole franchise, though I'd probably settle for RoS being stripped from canon and leaving TLJ as the official end of the ST. Still shitty and disappointing, but slightly more tolerable.
At this point I'm so disillusioned that I'd probably be down for killing the film franchise for ten or twenty years and then hard rebooting. Except even that wouldn't fix the problem, which is a fear of the new. Problem is, I'm not sure you can go forward to something I'd be interested in watching that builds on what we have with RoS, so I do kind of get the appeal of going back to old material in earlier eras. I don't know how you can have a Star Wars continuity which includes RoS and is still something I want to watch. Its flaws aren't minor. They are fundamental, and they damage not only the film itself but the entire Star Wars saga.
Palpatine's back. Great, Anakin's sacrifice is undercut, there was no Chosen One, no bringing balance to the Force.
The Skywalker family is dead. But we've going to call it the Rise of Skywalker and have a random nostalgia shot at the end, so that makes it okay. What a great note to end the saga on!
So we've got an emerging Rey/Finn/Rose love triangle? Okay, let's just ignore that plot thread, nothing to see here.
Rey is a Palpatine, but she's going to randomly call herself a Skywalker for no real reason. Oh, and she loves Kylo again now, never mind her decision to turn away from him at the end of TLJ. Forget any character growth, forget her having to create her own identity after finding out she's "no one", that was all a lie. We're left with an incoherent jumble of a character with no real arc or journey.
So we introduced a new character with Rose. Who's also our first ever notable character played by an Asian actor. What's that, racist and misogynists are upset? Because of course they are? Well, we can't have that. Quick, minimize her role. Who cares that we're basically spitting in the face of everyone who isn't a white man, and telling them they're expendable, and also signalling that we will throw our own employees under the bus if you harass them. Oh, and let's throw in a gratuitous reference to how our Latino character used to be a drug smuggler too. Got to keep the Trumpers happy!
God I want to kick JJ Abrams in the balls right now. Just, WHY? Who the fuck green-lit any of this shit, never mind gave it a budget of hundreds of millions of dollars?
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