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Western and other countries are turning a blind eye to weapons purchases by Syrian exiles who are already smuggling light arms, communications equipment and night vision goggles to rebels inside Syria, a Syrian opposition source said on Friday as Russia called for an urgent ceasefire in the Syrian city of Homs.

As many as 94 people have been killed by the fire of Syrian security forces, mostly in Hama, on Friday, activists at the Syrian Revolution Commission told Al Arabiya.

Syrian opposition supporters were also trying to find ways to bring anti-aircraft and anti-tank weapons to the Free Syrian Army, which is composed mainly of Syrian soldiers who have defected and volunteer civilians, the source said.

Contacts were also ongoing to find ways to get retired Syrian officers into the country to act as advisers in an effort to coordinate rebels fighting in a near year-long uprising against Bashar al-Asad’s rule.

“We are bringing in defensive and offensive weapons... It is coming from everywhere, including Western countries and it is not difficult to get anything through the borders,” the source told Reuters, speaking on condition of anonymity.

“There is not a decision by any country to arm the rebels but countries are allowing Syrians to buy weapons and send them into the country.”
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CAIRO/GAZA, Feb 24 (Reuters) - Leaders of the Palestinian Islamist movement Hamas turned publicly against their long-time ally President Bashar al-Assad of Syria on Friday, endorsing the revolt aimed at overthrowing his dynastic rule.

The policy shift deprives Assad of one of his few remaining Sunni Muslim supporters in the Arab world and deepens his international isolation. It was announced in Hamas speeches at Friday prayers in Cairo and a rally in the Gaza Strip.

Hamas went public after nearly a year of equivocating as Assad's army, largely led by fellow members of the president's Alawite sect, has crushed mainly Sunni protesters and rebels.

In a Middle East split along sectarian lines between Shi'ite and Sunni Islam, the public abandonment of Assad casts immediate questions over Hamas's future ties with its principal backer Iran, which has stuck by its ally Assad, as well as with Iran's fellow Shi'ite allies in Lebanon's Hezbollah movement.

"I salute all the nations of the Arab Spring and I salute the heroic people of Syria who are striving for freedom, democracy and reform," Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh, visiting Egypt from the Gaza Strip, told thousands of Friday worshippers at Cairo's al-Azhar mosque.

"We are marching towards Syria, with millions of martyrs," chanted worshippers at al-Azhar, home to one of the Sunni world's highest seats of learning. "No Hezbollah and no Iran.
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The State Department has begun coordinating with Syria's neighbors to prepare for the handling of President Bashar al-Assad's extensive weapons of mass destruction if and when his regime collapses, The Cable has learned.

This week, the State Department sent a diplomatic demarche to Syria's neighbors Iraq, Jordan, Lebanon, and Saudi Arabia, warning them about the possibility of Syria's WMDs crossing their borders and offering U.S. government help in dealing with the problem, three Obama administration officials confirmed to The Cable. For concerned parties both inside and outside the U.S. government, the demarche signifies that the United States is increasingly developing plans to deal with the dangers of a post-Assad Syria -- while simultaneously highlighting the lack of planning for how to directly bring about Assad's downfall.

Syria is believed to have a substantial chemical weapons program, which includes mustard gas and sophisticated nerve agents, such as sarin gas, as well as biological weapons. Syria has also refused IAEA requests to make available facilities that were part of its nuclear weapons program and may still be in operation.

The State Department declined to provide access to any officials to discuss the private diplomatic communication on the record, such as the author of the demarche Assistant Secretary of State for International Security and Nonproliferation Tom Countryman. In a meeting with reporters earlier this year, Countryman expressed confidence that the United States knows where Syria's WMD stockpiles are, but warned that they could become a very serious security issue for Syria and the region going forward.

"We have ideas as to the quantity and we have ideas as to where they are," Countryman said. "We wish some of the neighbors of Syria to be on the lookout... When you get a change of regime in Syria, it matters what are the conditions -- chaotic or orderly."

Today, in response to inquiries from The Cable, a State Department official offered the following statement:

"The U.S. and our allies are monitoring Syria's chemical weapons stockpile. These weapons' presence in Syria undermines peace and security in the Middle East, and we have long called on the Syrian government to destroy its chemicals weapons arsenal and join the Chemical Weapons Convention," the State Department official said. "We believe Syria's chemical weapons stockpile remains under Syrian government control, and we will continue to work closely with like-minded countries to prevent proliferation of Syria's chemical weapons program."

The demarche made four specific points, according to other U.S. officials who offered a fuller account to The Cable. It communicated the U.S. government's recognition that there is a highly active chemical warfare program in Syria, which is complemented by ballistic-missile delivery capability. It further emphasized that that any potential political transition in Syria could raise serious questions about the regime's control over proliferation-sensitive material.

Third, the State Department wanted Syria's neighbors to know that should the Assad regime fall, the security of its WMD stockpile -- as well as its control over conventional weapons like MANPADS (shoulder-fired rocket launchers) -- could come into question and could pose a serious threat to regional security. Lastly, the demarche emphasized that the U.S. government stands ready to support neighboring countries to provide border-related security cooperation.

"It's essentially a recognition of the danger to the regional and international community of the stockpiles that the regime possesses and the importance of working with countries, given the potential fall of the regime, to prevent the proliferation of these very sensitive weapons outside of Syria's border," one administration official said. "It's an exponentially more dangerous program than Libya. We are talking about legitimate WMDs here -- this isn't Iraq. The administration is really concerned about loose WMDs. It's one of the few things you could put on the agenda and do something about without planning the fall of the regime."

The administration is also working closely with the Jordanians on the issue. A Jordanian military delegation was at the Pentagon Thursday to meet with Defense Secretary Leon Panetta.

In addition to the danger of proliferation, there is a concern that Assad could actually use his WMDs if his situation becomes desperate.

"The WMD program is in play now, and that's important because it highlights the innate danger that the existence of this regime poses to U.S. security and regional interests," the administration official said. "[The demarche] puts Syria's neighbors on notice and it reflects the recognition that a dangerous Assad regime is willing to do anything to save its own skin. If they are willing to kill the country to save the regime, they might be willing to do a great deal more damage throughout the region."

Some officials inside and outside the administration see the WMD activity as helpful, but lament that such a high degree of planning is not taking place on the issue of how to precipitate the downfall of the Assad regime as quickly and as safely as possible.

Over 70 countries met in Tunis today to develop a unified message on the transition of power in Syria and urge the Assad regime to allow humanitarian access. The Saudi delegation actually walked out of the meeting, complaining of "inactivity" and urging the international community to arm the Syrian opposition.

The Obama administration has consistently rejected calls by the Syrian National Council and others to prepare for a military intervention in Syria and no real strategy exists internally to force Assad from power, another administration official said.

"Our strategic calculus can't be solely about what comes after Assad without taking a hard look at how to bring about Assad's downfall as safely as possible," said this official. "The reality is, at some point, there will be a recognition you can't plan for a post-Assad scenario without planning how to shape the downfall itself. You can't separate the two."

Concern about a gap in planning for how to oust the Assad regime is shared by some in Congress, including Sens. John McCain (R-AZ), Joe Lieberman (I-CT), and Lindsey Graham (R-SC), who issued a statement today urging the administration to start directly aiding the Syrian rebels and protecting Syrian civilians.

"Unfortunately, speeches and meetings by themselves will do nothing to stop the unacceptable slaughter in Syria, which is growing worse by the day," the senators said. "We remain deeply concerned that our international diplomacy risks becoming divorced from the reality on the ground in Syria, which is now an armed conflict between Assad's forces and the people of Syria who are struggling to defend themselves against indiscriminate attacks."

In her prepared remarks in Tunis, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said she supported more sanctions on the Assad regime but she declined to endorse any direct help to the Syrian opposition without the consent of the Syrian government, saying only, "We all need to look hard at what more we can do."
Oh, and a few white journalists were killed. Clearly their deaths are why Assad must go.
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The Saudi delegation actually walked out of the meeting, complaining of "inactivity" and urging the international community to arm the Syrian opposition.
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The Western allies have already exhausted their military resources on Libya, with Iran looking like a likely candidate in the future. Why would they want to embroil themselves in yet another meaningless war in the Middle East? It would once again destabilize the flow of oil, resulting in higher prices.

Perhaps if the House of Saud were to bankroll the operation, with the promise that they'll sign over half of their national oil reserves to Western powers, I would be more inclined to this venture. But then, the pebbles rarely have any input on these matters.
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Its very entertaining to read some magazines who have spent a decade attacking the US for killing civilians and not accepting any kind of excuses, suddenly turn a blind eye and talk about the importance of Assads anti guerilla war.
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The Western allies have already exhausted their military resources on Libya
We have? We might have used up our better missiles but we still have the capability to bomb the shit out of Syria, perhaps we would have to resort to less smart munitions but a bomb is a bomb when you drop it on a tank formation for a Cyprus airbase. And that is itself irrelevant if the USA backs action seeing as it as huge stores of stuff.
Perhaps if the House of Saud were to bankroll the operation
Farcical talk about signing over their oil aside Saudi could indeed agree to provide the funds for western action. They did with the first Gulf war. Would be a nice bonus for the missile factories.
Its very entertaining to read some magazines who have spent a decade attacking the US for killing civilians and not accepting any kind of excuses, suddenly turn a blind eye and talk about the importance of Assads anti guerilla war.
Are you saying protesting about bombing civilians for ten years precludes you from then wanting the world super power to intervene in stopping a slaughter like Syria?

Why are the Saudis swinging against Assad? Is it just to take the eyes of the world away from their own oppressions and Bahrain or has something changed recently as I understood them to be reasonable friendly as Arab countries go.
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This week, the State Department sent a diplomatic demarche to Syria's neighbors Iraq, Jordan, Lebanon, and Saudi Arabia, warning them about the possibility of Syria's WMDs crossing their borders and offering U.S. government help in dealing with the problem, three Obama administration officials confirmed to The Cable.
Hmm, I can't help but notice two of major neighbours absent from this list. I really wonder what cables went to these.
Darth Tanner wrote:Why are the Saudis swinging against Assad? Is it just to take the eyes of the world away from their own oppressions and Bahrain or has something changed recently as I understood them to be reasonable friendly as Arab countries go.
Perhaps you missed the line about Syria being Alawite secularist regime as opposed to Sunni theocracy despotism S.A. has? They like each other about as much as USA liked North Vietnam, probably less so, in fact :wtf:
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The Saudi delegation actually walked out of the meeting, complaining of "inactivity" and urging the international community to arm the Syrian opposition.
House of Saud, paragons of democracy and freedom.
I thought the exact same thing when I heard this on the radio yesterday.
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This week, the State Department sent a diplomatic demarche to Syria's neighbors Iraq, Jordan, Lebanon, and Saudi Arabia, warning them about the possibility of Syria's WMDs crossing their borders and offering U.S. government help in dealing with the problem, three Obama administration officials confirmed to The Cable.
Hmm, I can't help but notice two of major neighbours absent from this list. I really wonder what cables went to these.
What, Turkey and Israel? I don't think it's all that hard to guess.
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Foreign powers are turning a blind eye to weapons purchases by Syrian exiles who are already smuggling light arms, communications equipment and night vision goggles to rebels inside Syria, a Syrian opposition source said on Friday.

Syrian opposition supporters were also trying to bring anti-aircraft and anti-tank weapons to the Free Syrian Army rebels, and to get retired Syrian officers into the country to help coordinate military opposition to President Bashar al-Assad.

The source was speaking at a meeting of Western and Arab nations which will demand that, in the absence of international resolve to intervene to end Assad's crackdown on an 11-month revolt, Syria allow aid to be delivered to civilians caught in fighting.

"We are bringing in defensive and offensive weapons... It is coming from everywhere, including Western countries and it is not difficult to get anything through the borders," the source told Reuters, speaking on condition of anonymity.

"There is not a decision by any country to arm the rebels but countries are allowing Syrians to buy weapons and send them into the country."

Foreign ministers from more than 50 countries were in Tunis for the first meeting of the "Friends of Syria" group, against the backdrop of a surge in government attacks on the city of Homs and mounting world outrage over violence that has claimed thousands of lives during the uprising.

In Homs, Syrian government artillery fire killed five people in the city's Baba Amro district, opposition activists said, as the bombardment of opposition-held neighbourhoods entered its fourth week on Friday.

"Baba Amro is being hit with 122mm artillery directed at it from surrounding villages. A father and his 14-year-old son were among those killed. They were trying to flee the shelling when shrapnel hit them in the street," Mohammad al-Homsi told Reuters.

With moves for tough action in the U.N. Security Council stymied by Russian and Chinese vetoes and a lack of appetite for military action to end Assad's crackdown, delegates in Tunis have limited options.

German Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle told Reuters: "It is very important that the first contact group is taking place today because it sends a message to the Syrian people that we support them in their struggle for freedom."

An updated draft declaration from the meeting called on Syria to "immediately cease all violence" to allow the United Nations access to Homs, and to let agencies deliver aid to civilians affected by the violence.

The "Friends of Syria" pledged, in the latest version of the draft seen by Reuters, to deliver humanitarian supplies within 48 hours if Syria's government "stopped its assault on civilian areas and permitted access."

The International Committee of the Red Cross said it was trying to arrange daily ceasefires to allow in humanitarian aid, but Syria had not replied to its request.

In a sign the international community is seeking ways around the Security Council deadlock, U.N. Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon said he would dispatch former U.N. chief Kofi Annan to Syria as a joint U.N.-Arab League envoy.

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Cowl wrote:Perhaps if the House of Saud were to bankroll the operation, with the promise that they'll sign over half of their national oil reserves to Western powers, I would be more inclined to this venture. But then, the pebbles rarely have any input on these matters.
So you would be more inclined to invade another nation if you were bribed to do it? :banghead:
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Thanas wrote: So you would be more inclined to invade another nation if you were bribed to do it? :banghead:
It is somewhat despairing that an opportunity for an 'America: Fuck Yeah' bombing campaign courtesy of the Sixth Fleet is turned into an asinine hope. That said, the logistics of an invasion/intervention/bombing campaign are somewhat fascinating. 6th fleet with reinforcement might be able to do it, but they'd have to cross Lebanese airspace and there's that whole 'lol Hezbollah with ASMs' thing to deal with.

Since I don't see Turkey willing to allow basing for a campaign and an Israeli based campaign is simply unacceptable. I do wonder is smuggling arms is the best thing that can be done at the moment.
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Aligning geopolitical priorities with humanitarian causes is the very definition of humanitarian intervention. And seeing that the invasion of Syria might occasion a severe disruption of the energy market for a prolonged period of time (strategic location and transit point), the least the House of Saud could do is compensate the Western powers for their losses.
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Stas Bush wrote: House of Saud, paragons of democracy and freedom.
When it comes to civilian own weapons, they are. They didn't even have a minimal age to buy firearms until a few years ago, and may have more civilian owned artillery then anywhere else on earth. The only gun control in the country for a long time was a informal ban on weapons over 3in caliber.
That NOS Guy wrote: It is somewhat despairing that an opportunity for an 'America: Fuck Yeah' bombing campaign courtesy of the Sixth Fleet is turned into an asinine hope. That said, the logistics of an invasion/intervention/bombing campaign are somewhat fascinating. 6th fleet with reinforcement might be able to do it, but they'd have to cross Lebanese airspace and there's that whole 'lol Hezbollah with ASMs' thing to deal with.
You know, Syria has seacoast, and hundreds of anti ship missiles, and thousands of SAMs including modern types, and hundreds of jet fighters and a population that still has very large elements supporting Assad to man all those weapons. You don't seem to have given this much thought if you think anything in Lebanon really matters.
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Sea Skimmer wrote: You know, Syria has seacoast, and hundreds of anti ship missiles, and thousands of SAMs including modern types, and hundreds of jet fighters and a population that still has very large elements supporting Assad to man all those weapons. You don't seem to have given this much thought if you think anything in Lebanon really matters.
I had indeed wrapped myself up too far into thinking about Lebanon and I by no means contest this correction.
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Cowl wrote:Perhaps if the House of Saud were to bankroll the operation, with the promise that they'll sign over half of their national oil reserves to Western powers, I would be more inclined to this venture. But then, the pebbles rarely have any input on these matters.
So you would be more inclined to invade another nation if you were bribed to do it? :banghead:
I'm sorry, is this a trick question? All other factors being equal, a bribe of sufficiently-enticing size is going to make someone 'more inclined' to perform an action they might otherwise find distasteful. This is, in fact, the basis behind most employment of any kind, legal and otherwise.
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Sea Skimmer wrote:When it comes to civilian own weapons, they are. They didn't even have a minimal age to buy firearms until a few years ago, and may have more civilian owned artillery then anywhere else on earth. The only gun control in the country for a long time was a informal ban on weapons over 3in caliber.
Guns equal democracy in America, I guess. Not in other parts of the world, however.

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The reply is sheer mockery only because your equation of democracy and civilian gun ownership looks like generic trolling. By your stellar logic Poland is worse at democracy than Saudi Arabia because "civilan owned weapons" aren't easy to obtain in Poland even by Euro-standards. :lol:
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White Haven wrote:
Thanas wrote:
Cowl wrote:Perhaps if the House of Saud were to bankroll the operation, with the promise that they'll sign over half of their national oil reserves to Western powers, I would be more inclined to this venture. But then, the pebbles rarely have any input on these matters.
So you would be more inclined to invade another nation if you were bribed to do it? :banghead:
I'm sorry, is this a trick question? All other factors being equal, a bribe of sufficiently-enticing size is going to make someone 'more inclined' to perform an action they might otherwise find distasteful. This is, in fact, the basis behind most employment of any kind, legal and otherwise.
Hooray for mercenaries. Ideals? Requirements to invade? Who needs these. OIL. MONEY.

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There are these words in my mouth, and I didn't put them there. Curious. When the choices are 'invade' or 'invade after being bribed to do so,' the latter is more likely to be chosen as a course of action. Morality isn't even in this discussion, I was addressing your comment about bribery. Somewhat akin to when the choices are 'keep silent about a crime' or 'keep silent about a crime after being paid thousands of dollars.' Or perhaps 'deal with idiot customers all day' versus 'deal with customers all day when I'm being paid to do it.' Bribery works; some of it's socially acceptable and called a paycheck, some of it's officially criminal, and some of it's geopolitics.
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Stas Bush wrote: Guns equal democracy in America, I guess. Not in other parts of the world, however.

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The reply is sheer mockery only because your equation of democracy and civilian gun ownership looks like generic trolling. By your stellar logic Poland is worse at democracy than Saudi Arabia because "civilan owned weapons" aren't easy to obtain in Poland even by Euro-standards. :lol:
Wasn't an attempt to equate guns with democracy, but rather the authority of the government to rule. Unpopular governments benefit from gun controls, popular ones don't need to care one way or another. The Saudi government might be a bunch of assholes, but the Saudi population apparently doesn't think its so bad, and is heavily equipped with the tools to change it if they wanted. Syria has a very low rate of civilian gun ownership meanwhile, in the bottom third of the world, and now has endless thousands of willing martyrs with no guns to fight with. If you had Saudi level gun ownership in Syria the regime probably would have fallen by now.
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Sea Skimmer wrote:The Saudi government might be a bunch of assholes, but the Saudi population apparently doesn't think its so bad, and is heavily equipped with the tools to change it if they wanted. Syria has a very low rate of civilian gun ownership meanwhile, in the bottom third of the world, and now has endless thousands of willing martyrs with no guns to fight with. If you had Saudi level gun ownership in Syria the regime probably would have fallen by now.
I recall that it wasn't civilian gun ownership in Syria that was the problem, but rather that "the rebels got the Kalashnikovs while the army got the armor, artillery and air power"...
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Small arms are the backbone of any insurgency or revolution, or war, and they are how you obtain better weapons. The regular Syrian army is accomplishing little but defections; the Republican Guard is vastly outnumbered which is why it can barely keep people out of the streets in the capital with live gunfire and simply cannot control about half of Syrian cities in spite of having freely used tank fire and helicopters this entire time, and now artillery. Estimates are the Syrians may have under 50,000 loyalist troops actually fighting, backed up by lots and random militia and secret police who are all easily combated with rifles. Do you bother to watch any of the thousands of videos being put out? They have dozens of people literally waiting in line to pick up guns when someone gets shot. Anyway I endlessly get the impression here that people do want to pay any attention to the details of any of these conflicts so I don't know why I bother wasting my time.
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White Haven wrote:There are these words in my mouth, and I didn't put them there. Curious. When the choices are 'invade' or 'invade after being bribed to do so,' the latter is more likely to be chosen as a course of action. Morality isn't even in this discussion, I was addressing your comment about bribery. Somewhat akin to when the choices are 'keep silent about a crime' or 'keep silent about a crime after being paid thousands of dollars.' Or perhaps 'deal with idiot customers all day' versus 'deal with customers all day when I'm being paid to do it.' Bribery works; some of it's socially acceptable and called a paycheck, some of it's officially criminal, and some of it's geopolitics.
Cowl was saying he would change his mind when being bribed, so that means he does not think intervention worthwhile unless the west gets something out of it (in his argument, half of Saudi oil). In essence, the humanitarian reasons were not enough to justify an invasion (unless the west would gain massive oil supplies). So yes, these words in your mouth are pretty much exactly as morally reprehensible as I think they are, and if you want to suggest I put them there, well then maybe you should not have taken Cowls side.
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The humanitarian reasons don't suddenly stop existing when someone is bribed as well. 'We'd like to, but that's hella expensive' becomes 'we'd like to, and now we can realistically afford to.' Alternately, in the absence of humanitarian interests, you get 'We don't want to do (n repugnant thing)' versus 'We don't want to do (n repugnant thing), but damn the money's good.'

Yes. Bribery makes things more likely to occur. You might not like it, but yammering about it doesn't make that less true. For that matter, whether or not anyone likes it (myself and Cowl included) isn't even relevant. It's a simple fact, cost-benefit analysis. The more benefits, the more likely they are to outweigh the costs. Bribery is a benefit to the bribee. The fact that you find that 'repugnant' isn't even remotely relevant.
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How does that in any way affect the morality of the situation?
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How fortunate that I was addressing your point directly, which was in essence you acting shocked that someone would be more inclined to perform an action if bribed accordingly. The underlying morality of the action being performed is what matters, not the bribe. If you're being bribed to do something unethical, you're doing something unethical. If you're being bribed to do something ethical, then you're doing something ethical. The bribe, on a geopolitical level, isn't relevant to the action being encouraged.
Thanas wrote:So you would be more inclined to invade another nation if you were bribed to do it?
Your original quote. And the answer, again, is of course. Does it mean you will do it? Who knows. But you're more likely to do something when self-interest is involved in some capacity. At the risk of sounding coarse, duh!
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Wait, isn't Syria an ally of Russia? This means that the West couldn't intervene even if they aren't exhausted from the Libyan police action or could benefit in some way from intervening in Syria, because the Russians will not just block them in the UN, they will get nasty the moment the West dared passing into Syrian air space or even give a single gun to a Syrian rebel.

Syria is a key part of Russian geopolitical strategy at defense (Or something like that, can't remember exact details). Syria is a source of income for Russia by virtue of being where 10% of their arms export go. Russia have every reason to try to ensure Assad survives at any cost, consequences be damned. Plus, after the excess in Libya the Russians and Chinese won't allow any more 'foreign powers intervention in internal affairs' because they might create precedents that could threaten their own regimes.

Russia (and China) won't let the West to do anything in Syria, the West, even if they could and had willingness to intervene, won't dare piss off Russia. Either way, unless the West could convince them it is in Moscow's best interest to let Assad's regime fall, or make the impression the West won't infringe it would be impossible for any form of intervention

In other words, there's nothing the West could do.
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