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another round of TERRIBLE POLITICAL CARTOONS

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i think this guy's been posted on FOXNEWS.com or something


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oh surprise surprise here's chuck asay being a total shithead again



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U, you posted the mussolini cartoon twice and not the hitler one. (yes, the guy made a hitler one)

But according to this guy, Minimum Wage is FASCIST! (lol, godwin)

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fixed OP, thanks IS

I liked Penny Arcade's take on political cartoons better though
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This is the first time that I've seen a political cartoon that is 180 degrees out of phase with reality:
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I think this cartoonist is from opposite land or something where the parties stand for completely different things.
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OMG, we must institute a mandatory DRAFT IMMEDIATELY, or else we'll turn into MUSSOLINI, DONT YOU SEE?!
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Krahulik from PA had a hilarious remark in a discussion about editorial cartoons:
The webcomic model won’t work for editorial cartoons. A successful webcomic is what they call a destination location in the retail world. That is to say it is a place people go out of their way to visit. Someone needs to choose to visit your site and that just wouldn’t work for editorial cartoons. People read editorial comics because they are already getting the paper. If you want to maintain the retail analogy it’s like they are in the mall already so they may as well stop by they house of crap. Would that store ever survive outside the mall? No. It’s the same for editorial cartoons. They could never survive on the web because no one would log on to their machine in the morning and say “hey I really want to see a drawing of a wheelbarrow that represents stem cell research crashing into a boat labeled pork barrel spending.” Hey no stealing that idea by the way, that’s mine;)
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The first two are really crappy - one has a spelling mistake (hadful of others), the second one spells the name of the NSDAP wrong.

And don't get me started on the other things in which he rapes history.
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i think i prefer shock and awe when we were killing brown people than today when we are being meanies to rich old white mangs

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I love the Mussolini quote. Wasn't he kicked out of the socialist party for accepting bribes?

As for the listing :lol: I guess Otto von Bismark was also a socialist?
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The Hitler and Mussolini pics can be taken two different ways. The intended meaning is probably "Hitler and Mussolini had ideas that the left-wingers support, so left-wingers are fascist Nazis!", but it could easily backfire and make it look like they're making Hitler and Mussolini out to be not as bad as they seem (after all, they kept listing all of their positive changes to the government, especially for Hitler).

It would be funny if someone took their "Look, all of these things we listed are left-wing ideas!" bits and decided that the left has the better ideas, which would do the exact OPPOSITE of what they intend.
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How quickly did Hitler ruin Germany's shit after he was in?

I'm just asking cause it's like a month past since people should have been gassed in the street by Black Panthers.
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Geddit? It's cause obama is a dictator destroying liberty.

Ahahahaha. What a lovely comic- it's from the same guy who made the Chimp Comic! Can you tell? The same love and quality is baked into every bite.
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Uraniun235 wrote:Krahulik from PA had a hilarious remark in a discussion about editorial cartoons:
The webcomic model won’t work for editorial cartoons. A successful webcomic is what they call a destination location in the retail world. That is to say it is a place people go out of their way to visit. Someone needs to choose to visit your site and that just wouldn’t work for editorial cartoons. People read editorial comics because they are already getting the paper. If you want to maintain the retail analogy it’s like they are in the mall already so they may as well stop by they house of crap. Would that store ever survive outside the mall? No. It’s the same for editorial cartoons. They could never survive on the web because no one would log on to their machine in the morning and say “hey I really want to see a drawing of a wheelbarrow that represents stem cell research crashing into a boat labeled pork barrel spending.” Hey no stealing that idea by the way, that’s mine;)
Except he's wrong; it worked for John Cox and Allen Forkum until they decided to stop doing political cartoons altogether.
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Rogue 9 wrote:
Uraniun235 wrote:Krahulik from PA had a hilarious remark in a discussion about editorial cartoons:
The webcomic model won’t work for editorial cartoons. A successful webcomic is what they call a destination location in the retail world. That is to say it is a place people go out of their way to visit. Someone needs to choose to visit your site and that just wouldn’t work for editorial cartoons. People read editorial comics because they are already getting the paper. If you want to maintain the retail analogy it’s like they are in the mall already so they may as well stop by they house of crap. Would that store ever survive outside the mall? No. It’s the same for editorial cartoons. They could never survive on the web because no one would log on to their machine in the morning and say “hey I really want to see a drawing of a wheelbarrow that represents stem cell research crashing into a boat labeled pork barrel spending.” Hey no stealing that idea by the way, that’s mine;)
Except he's wrong; it worked for John Cox and Allen Forkum until they decided to stop doing political cartoons altogether.
I was curious about those guys so I went to their site. On their farewell post:
For better or worse, I've always had to approach the editorial cartoon work as a "part time" career. I never quit my "day job" as co-owner of a small newspaper publishing business. The editorial work, though intellectually rewarding, is not very financially rewarding. Furthermore, researching the cartoons, writing/designing them, managing the blog, publishing the books, marketing them, and running the business side all take an enormous amount of time.
If I'm not mistaken, I think the PA guys work/make a living on comic stuff full time. This guy needed a day job to get by because the editorials weren't pulling in enough. I think the ideal for cartoonists "making it" online is closer to PA and not the "this is what I do in my free time" version.

Along with the guy in the thread Uranium linked to raving about how HBO would be a great model for comics, I love Obama's head on this comic:

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The cartoons in the OP may be an attempt to answer the observation that calling Obama a fascist and a communist is a contradiction, as fascism is generally interpreted as a right-wing movement. The cartoons make the Nazis and the Fascists seem liberal rather than conservative.
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LMSx wrote:
Along with the guy in the thread Uranium linked to raving about how HBO would be a great model for comics, I love Obama's head on this comic:

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I love it because thanks to that cartoon I instantly see Obama able to step in at a moments notice and take over for Ranger Smith and foil Yogi's latest attempt at pic-a-nic basket thievery.

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LMSx wrote: If I'm not mistaken, I think the PA guys work/make a living on comic stuff full time. This guy needed a day job to get by because the editorials weren't pulling in enough. I think the ideal for cartoonists "making it" online is closer to PA and not the "this is what I do in my free time" version.
Krahulik goes into more detail on this: they don't make money off of the comic itself. The comic is a free giveaway. What the comic does is bring people to the website and build a fanbase for the comic, and to a lesser extent the author and artist themselves.

PA's (and, in fact, most webcomics') income comes from three sources:

1) Advertising revenue
2) Special commission projects (basically comics to advertise upcoming products or services, or to indulge individual tastes)
3) Merchandising


Editorial cartoonists could potentially tap into some of these sources of revenue with varying success, but I think they'd be at a disadvantage since most of them don't have recurring characters that people can come to adore. I have to admit it would be enormously satisfying to see Ted Rall try and fail to market a plushie based on his proudest creation, Generalissimo Bush.
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Don't forget games and gigs. Penny Arcade are bookable at this point and useful as media personalites(As their podcast for Wizard's are evidence of) and their games of the very long title names. While not blockbuster triple A titles, they do turn a profit even at 19.99$ a pop.

Speaking of which, considering the serious discussion that's sprung up on how Political Cartoonists will survive, off to N&P.

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Instant Sunrise wrote:This is the first time that I've seen a political cartoon that is 180 degrees out of phase with reality:
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I think this cartoonist is from opposite land or something where the parties stand for completely different things.
Is he? I think this is referring to how Congress killed a voucher program for kids in the DC School District.
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I like how the queen is marked England in case you don't know what she is queen of. That's lower than the lowest common denominator.
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wait, we just replaced an Eight Year reign of a governemtn where the Vice President had actual assassination squads (ala South America), and our ICE actually made immigrants "Dissappear" because they wer related to someone . And these numb nuts think that Obama is a fascist. What are they smoking, and please don't share it's ovciously killing too many brain cells.
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Seriously, why does people have such a naive view that politics is something as simple as ABC or 1+1=2? It seems to me that a lot of right-wingers views politics in a very childish and black and white manner. They would never consider the fact that political policies cannot be viewed in a black and white manner, and the issue of political policy is extremely complex.

Seems to me that most Republicans ALWAYS falls into the black and white fallacy trap.
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