But of course if they can go formal, which I presumed they can since your nation is liberal, they do. Since there's no specific "rise and lobby in the clergy ranks" issue in your nation unlike Byzantium which is secular but still the Church has strong influence over society, in Canissia they will just be CLIT as well. 
None of them have reached orbit. None of them in fact, have left the atmosphere. It's a tall order to claim that doing tests of a secret rocket of some sort or another is somehow a deed worthy of being nuked (and causing the entire world to go up in flames, incidentally).Mr Bean wrote:I'm getting worried about Tian Xian numerous undocumented launches, sending dozens of rockets off without informing the international world what exactly your launching into space? Not a happy situation.
Which leads me to believe I must invest time, effort, and resources in order to ensure the world knows what he's up to.
Undocumented rocket launches are not a good idea. We announce everything we do at White Sands, as does Lonestar, and everything launched from Atlantis under-goes inspection, but over here we have Beowulf tossing possible ICBM's off and not saying a thing?
Had I had more reliable internet access Beowulf I likley would have asked Sheppard to nuke your country the first time you shot a rocket into space without informing the international community what it was for.
Damn lan-cafe's
The way you wrote it made it sound as if your tossing Spy-Satellites or ICBM mock ups into ELEO orbits.Beowulf wrote:
None of them have reached orbit. None of them in fact, have left the atmosphere. It's a tall order to claim that doing tests of a secret rocket of some sort or another is somehow a deed worthy of being nuked (and causing the entire world to go up in flames, incidentally).
If you're seriously wondering, they're hypersonic vehicle tests.
Ohhh, like the recent Australian scramjet test? Cool.Beowulf wrote:If you're seriously wondering, they're hypersonic vehicle tests.
Sorry about that; I didn't think it would be that much of a major foreign policy decision to exchange information regarding the goddamn libertopians and how many guns they have.Lonestar wrote:Shep, retcon that.
Don't put foreign policy decisions into my charecter's mouth ever again.
The LSR does not pass on WMD to anyone outside of the MESS.DarthShady wrote:Guys whats your stand on the selling of nukes to FUN nations?
Well, we can have the lesbian-rights CLIT and the animal-rights CLIT be at odds with each other, kinda like the relationship between the pedophiles and the Marlon Brando lookalikes in "Cartman Joins NAMBLA."Coyote wrote:Heh-- I was, in fact, thinking of using the CLIT from Jay & Silent Bob movie fame-- Coalition for the Liberation of Itinerant Tree-dwellers. I was thinking that we haven't had any animal-rights loonies attack yet...
There is still LABIA: Liberate Apes Before Imprisoning Apes...
Say Shep, can I have the plans as well? I'll do the construction at my own munition factories.Mr Bean wrote:Speaking of which, I'm SOL on pricing for S-400's I've not been able to find one shred of fact on how much a full system would cost me.
And by full System, assuming I'm getting the plans from Sheppard, then establishing a factory to build them.
Cost of Factory?
Cost of Each Missile?
Cost Launcher?
Cost of Radar?
Total Cost Package for one truck, one radar and a standard missile load out?
All I have are old memories and claims of the S-400 as being the best dual use AA and ABM in existence. And I want to get into building them in a large way.
After thinking it over, 650 million is my internal/MESS price. Export is $USD 700 million. Gotta turn a profit somewhere. Considering they're almost like a Burke-lite (which would be about USD$1.1 billion) that's a good deal.RogueIce wrote:So I'm building and selling what are basically the F100 frigates from Spain. I have about 50,000 tons I can build with for small boys, so I can build a maximum of 8 per 6 months. Since I'm only building 2 a year (to a total number of 18) I should be able to accomodate any orders. I'd say they're a good addition to the Clyde OPVs, and could serve as flagships and/or the heavy hitters of anti-pirate units. They're probably out of range for the Duchys, unless you want to blow most of your yearly budget on one, but they should be addordable for Principalities on up. And they're more capable than the Halifaxs we were gifted with, so if anyone is looking to modernize now is the time. :)
How much will it cost if I build these frigates at my own docks under license? I'm considering Frigates, and looking to maybe begin a program of replacement starting FY2011 or FY2012, depending on how much money I have lying around.RogueIce wrote:After thinking it over, 650 million is my internal/MESS price. Export is $USD 700 million. Gotta turn a profit somewhere. Considering they're almost like a Burke-lite (which would be about USD$1.1 billion) that's a good deal.
Well, my post could probably still stand. His Best troops probably required very little in training, mainly just on the helicopters and some more advanced Special Forces type training. But my men really haven't had much time to work with them as yet, so tthey would have had to be competent to begin with. And those rumours of ProTec men spearheading the assault may be looking more accurate all the time, if not due to their training, then due to their better equipment.Mr Bean wrote:Raj your writing against grain, the Iron General's problem's have not been related to shitty trained troops, his problem is his people are armed with everything you would expect from mountain-troops. IE No armor, no IFV's but technicals, he has RPG's but he's not even fully equipped with AK's. He has troops round around with World War I/II equivalent single-shot carbine rifles. Yes they are well trained, but you put up a hundred guys armed with K98's, SKS,, AK-47's, M14's, and whatever else they can scrounge up, VS a hundred guys armed only AK-47's and RPK MG support with attached mortar's and even if they are well trained they are going to have issues.
Which is also why he's been eager to secure funding and arms from international sources is he has a hell of a time securing new weapons, he has enough to keep his people armed.
From who? The Mess? OMSK would react, FUN? Mess and OMSK would react, OMSK? Mess would react. Saddamstain? Is funding his enemy, the chance of him buying weapons are non-existent.Raj Ahten wrote:
Alexander should be able to purchase arms, he has mineral wealth, so he could at least buy small arms on the black market in exchange for gold and conflict diamonds right? That would be obscenely expensive though, so just getting helicopters from ProTec would be a huge increease in capabilty for Alexander's forces.
From Libertian corruption. There are light armed choppers in Libertia and some prop aircraft.Seriously who can he buy from?
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