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Re: The Reign of Trump

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Not that I don't think Trump is scum, but, I would actually be very surprised if Epstein ever had anything on Trump beyond what is known. (Epstein apparently had blackmail tapes on people, of them having sex with underaged victims Epstein has supplied.)

It's just Trump didn't need Epstein help him get laid, underaged or not.

Think about it. Trump had control over 3 beauty pageants. Miss Universe, Miss USA, and Miss Teen USA: Trump owned the rights to these three pageants from 1996 until he sold them in 2015. He had lots of access to young woman, and should have had no problem figuring out which ones to approach, and then convincing them to fuck him in exchange for some sort of compensation.

And he had access to 'model' quality girls as young as 15.

And that's not counting employees at his various businesses. Or friends of his kids, etc.

He didn't need Epstein.


More then likely, the delay has been for his lawyers to go over everything, analyzing probably fall out, and preparing defenses/counters.
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Re: The Reign of Trump

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bilateralrope wrote: 2025-11-16 10:57pm Justice Department quietly replaced 'identical' Trump signatures on recent pardons

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Signatures being altered on pardons. Trump saying he didn't know someone that he had pardoned.

How many of these pardons really were signed by Trump ?

What happens if someone turns up proof that some of these pardons are forgeries ?
TBH, Trump's been yelling FIRE FIRE over Biden's "autopen", so I was wondering when people would see the smoking torch behind Trump's back.
So far, I've seen so many cases of Trump doing just what he accused others of, this was just one more "Cry Wolf".

Now. Signatures being altered should make the Pardons Inadmissible, imho. Redo paperwork from Start.

How many are really signed by Trump and not an intern with an Autopen? Would they count as Forgeries?
Those are DAMN GOOD QUESTIONS, and unfortunately we won't know for some time because Trump's Admin is gonna blow smoke and mirrors all over that shit to cover the mistakes made.
But, honestly? I'd not be surprised to find an intern rolling off signatures right and left as Certain Members of the Admin need it done, and Trump none the wiser. Like caretakers forging old lady's names to keep the Social Security Checks coming.

Will it ever come out? Maybe. If there's someone who is getting procescuted for some other crime and spills the beans to get a plea bargain. But I doubt all the corruption will come to light until and unless people go on trial -- which is a big QuestionMark if that ever will happen.
This isn't going to be Deep Throat and the Nixon Papers. This is going to take decades as historians try to dig through the ditches. And I am fully of the belief that Trump's Admin are destroying records daily to hide all they can.
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Re: The Reign of Trump

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I have no doubt at all that people in the Trump administration are taking advantage of Trump being president.

I wouldn't be surprised if someone was selling the pardons, putting the money into crypto, transferring it a bunch of times, and using it for online purchases. That would be very difficult to trace and prove.
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Re: The Reign of Trump

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LadyTevar wrote: 2025-11-17 06:18pm TBH, Trump's been yelling FIRE FIRE over Biden's "autopen", so I was wondering when people would see the smoking torch behind Trump's back.
So far, I've seen so many cases of Trump doing just what he accused others of, this was just one more "Cry Wolf".
A common phrase I see is "every accusation is a confession"
Now. Signatures being altered should make the Pardons Inadmissible, imho. Redo paperwork from Start.

How many are really signed by Trump and not an intern with an Autopen? Would they count as Forgeries?
Those are DAMN GOOD QUESTIONS, and unfortunately we won't know for some time because Trump's Admin is gonna blow smoke and mirrors all over that shit to cover the mistakes made.
But, honestly? I'd not be surprised to find an intern rolling off signatures right and left as Certain Members of the Admin need it done, and Trump none the wiser. Like caretakers forging old lady's names to keep the Social Security Checks coming.

Will it ever come out? Maybe. If there's someone who is getting procescuted for some other crime and spills the beans to get a plea bargain. But I doubt all the corruption will come to light until and unless people go on trial -- which is a big QuestionMark if that ever will happen.
This isn't going to be Deep Throat and the Nixon Papers. This is going to take decades as historians try to dig through the ditches. And I am fully of the belief that Trump's Admin are destroying records daily to hide all they can.
If Trump authorised the pardon, it's probably valid. Even if he didn't sign it.

If he didn't authorise it, the pardon is a forgery.

The big mess is going to be all the uncertainty. I can see SCOTUS going one of two ways. The first is to declare all pardons valid unless someone can prove it was forged. The second is them taking the opportunity to be the final arbiter of all pardons.
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