The Dark Knight (GODDAMN SPOILERS)

[The Wench]

I don't find any fault with MG's looks, just that her acting wasn't anything special, and certainly not better than KH.

MG does have really deep lines in her face coming down from her eyes and nose that make her look really tired to me, but that is a small nitpick.

Jenn said she thought that see looked gaunt or emaciated.

she doesn't just look it...she is it. she looks gaunt in every friggin' magazine i see her in. she hunches over and it makes her look weak, which is a totally different depiction of her from the Rachel in BB. she shouldn't look weak or scared. when she attempts to deter the Joker in the penthouse scene, it looks scripted and unnatural because she's only a fraction of the forceful character she was in BB. KH would've gotten all up in his face like she did with Scarecrow...they made her too two-dimensional in TDK.

[The Wench]

His hair is tinged green. I thought the cosplayers I came across in a convention a few weeks ago had done it wrong by having such dark hair, but they got it spot on.

Actually, the peeps from the Gotham Public Works kick much more ass IMO. talk about takin' it seriously. GPW

[Admiral Valdemar]

Holy shit, but this is a great original poster.

[Zablorg]

Pretty cool, but I think Batman's face looks silly.

He's like, "I want my goddamned coffee."

[Admiral Valdemar]

Until Drew Struzan does one, that's as good as any. I wish I could get the burning building poster that is used officially, since that's the only one not being sold while all the others are.

[Havok]

Holy shit, but this is a great original poster.

Very Star Wars-ish. Batman is in a retarded pose. They fucked up MG's face... Uh... I guess I think it sucks.

[Admiral Valdemar]

Very Star Wars-ish. Batman is in a retarded pose. They fucked up MG's face... Uh... I guess I think it sucks.

That would be because it's meant to be "Star Wars-ish". And MG's face is, well, exactly like it is in reality. See prior discussion.

[Anguirus]

With regard to Gyllenhaal, I thought her performance was fine. She didn't "hunch over," and it's hard to compare her "standing up to the Scarecrow" before she even knew how crazy he was vs. "standing up to knife-wielding maniac."

As for having nothing to do with the plot, she did get to do ADA stuff in the first half, at least as much as she did in the first movie. In both films she defers to (and dates) her boss.

In a perfect world, KH would have come back, but I don't think that's a poor reflection on Gyllenhaal. I thought she did an excellent job in her scenes with both Bale and Eckhart.

[The Wench]

As for having nothing to do with the plot, she did get to do ADA stuff in the first half, at least as much as she did in the first movie.

speaking of...thought it was a little strange she was doing all of her questioning with her shirt wide open...what's that all about exactly? would you really expect your lawyer to walk in with her shirt unbuttoned to the middle of her sternum and then start asking you about your cooperation with her investigation?...oh...wait...nevermind...good tactic.

[Admiral Valdemar]

I'd ask to be interrogated by more women dressed like that. I'd at least go down with a smile on my face. Too bad The Joker didn't get that treatment, just a nice smacking around.

[Lord Pounder]

My problem was not with MG's looks. I never said it was if you read what I actually typed instead of making a wrong assumption. My problem was that she mostly seemed unnecessary. In BB she had a purpose to be Bruce Waynes conscience and to elevate Batman to be more than a vigilante. her sole purpose in TDK was to die and send Bruce and Harvey cuckoo snaps.

[Stark]

Yeah I guess she's kinda useless except for the whole 'I'm going to quit being Batman and marry you' thing.

[Anguirus]

In BB she had a purpose to be Bruce Waynes conscience and to elevate Batman to be more than a vigilante. her sole purpose in TDK was to die and send Bruce and Harvey cuckoo snaps.

So, in both films she was an inspiration to Bruce? Not seeing the problem.

Dawes was the least memorable major character in Begins anyway. I always figured she would get waxed in TDK. As a character with no presence in the comics, she clearly existed only to serve this specific purpose to facilitate the creation and maturation of Nolan's version of Batman. She served her purpose well, and hopefully we'll see more strong female characters, either based on comic characters or original, in future Batman movies. I just don't understand what's to complain about regarding her TDK role.

Who the hell else was Joker going to kill?

[JME2]

Holy shit, but this is a great original poster.

I agree; very nice find.

[Tiriol]

My only actual complaint about Rachel Dawes in this film was that outfit she used during the interrogation scene (and how she walked in that scene as well). But it is only a minor complaint, nothing major.

[The Grim Squeaker]

Pardon me if this has been addressed, but I've gone through over a third of this thread, and I have to ask -
Did NO ONE think of maybe looking into the engine room? "Hey Mac, were there all these detonators here on the stacked petroleum barrels earlier"? People were obviosuly checking fucking everything, and it wasn't exactly hidden on the ferries.

[ray245]

Pardon me if this has been addressed, but I've gone through over a third of this thread, and I have to ask -
Did NO ONE think of maybe looking into the engine room? "Hey Mac, were there all these detonators here on the stacked petroleum barrels earlier"? People were obviosuly checking fucking everything, and it wasn't exactly hidden on the ferries.

Given that people may be in a rush to evac the city....they may not bother to do so.

[The Grim Squeaker]

Pardon me if this has been addressed, but I've gone through over a third of this thread, and I have to ask -
Did NO ONE think of maybe looking into the engine room? "Hey Mac, were there all these detonators here on the stacked petroleum barrels earlier"? People were obviosuly checking fucking everything, and it wasn't exactly hidden on the ferries.

Given that people may be in a rush to evac the city....they may not bother to do so.

So, in the hours it would take to load up a ferry with 30,000 under threat of terrorism, not a single crew member thought to go to the engine room, despite that being fucking standard procedure and part of the normal working process on any normal ship

[Admiral Valdemar]

So, in the hours it would take to load up a ferry with 30,000 under threat of terrorism, not a single crew member thought to go to the engine room, despite that being fucking standard procedure and part of the normal working process on any normal ship

Yeah, couldn't possibly be the work of people in The Joker's employ putting stuff in the holds. That'd be crazy, like him having people in the GPD.

Oh, wait...

[The Grim Squeaker]

So, in the hours it would take to load up a ferry with 30,000 under threat of terrorism, not a single crew member thought to go to the engine room, despite that being fucking standard procedure and part of the normal working process on any normal ship

Yeah, couldn't possibly be the work of people in The Joker's employ putting stuff in the holds. That'd be crazy, like him having people in the GPD.

Oh, wait...

I'm not questioning him getting the stuff there, i'm questi0oning no-one on the ship going into the fucking engine engine room until well after the ship has left port.
Unless you think that he had every member of the crew who would normally go there in his employee and that they covered up until they left port, and didn't show any sign of this, despite their agreeing/wanting to commit suicide by blowing up with the rest of them.?

[Admiral Valdemar]

No, I'm saying that those in charge of making such arrangements as checking the engine room and holds were bought by The Joker or bent cops were used to stop people asking questions. Clearly you can't rig two ferries to blow with that much gasoline without having some muscle on the inside, and since a great many cops and National Guards were more concerned in checking the tunnels and bridges for a supposed threat, there was ample time to set the plan in motion.

[Admiral Valdemar]

Aaaand another decent teaser poster appears for any sequel.

[Shroom Man 777]

Perhaps in the sequel, we can see the social repercussions of the Joker's actions. Widespread anarchy? I mean, it was a bloody upheaval, so I expect a lot of folks might've gone a bit loopy.

That teaser picture is disturbing. Yeah... I think Nolan can actually do the Riddler justice.

[Admiral Valdemar]

Assuming a sequel is made, I expect it to be set a good deal after TDK anyway, with any repercussions seen from archival records rather than still ongoing.

[xerex]

Aaaand another decent teaser poster appears for any sequel.

whoa that is good.

so the Riddler is either a Zodiac killer type........or (out of left field) maybe a profiler brought in to discover the identity of Batman ?