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Gil Hamilton wrote:

Zac Naloen wrote:how the fuck did i miss out 5 words in that sentence

should Read "You have no idea the stress you have caused me...."

You are just proving that Tevar has mindwarping powers, man.

Damn I'm good..

It's a fact of life. Women are head melters. I think all these mind games and shit are half the reason i went bi. With a fella you just come out with it. He says yes or no. No fucking anxiety no waiting by the phone incase he calls. Sometimes i think women talk an alien language that sounds like English but isn't.

Defiant wrote:I am curious. How many of you out there have ever been hit with the "Ominous Wet Fish of Friendship"?

What is this, you ask? Simple. Let's say you like (in my case) a very nice girl You get to know her, you talk with her, go out on a couple of dates. Then, she kindly lets you know that she really likes you, AS A FRIEND.

That is the Wet Fish. Anyone who fishes will know what its like to get hit in the face with a fish you've been trying to reel in. I turn 33 years old tomorrow (Oct 3rd), and I've been hit with this Fish so many times, its lost all meaning.

Anyone else have any thoughts?

I'm sorry.. I have to laugh.. where I come from, we refer to our faghags as "fish"...

But to answer your question, yes, I have been hit with it, both from girls in the past, as well as my "ex." I *really* hope that I don't get hit with it with this prospect I have now, though...

~ver

verilon wrote:

Defiant wrote:I am curious. How many of you out there have ever been hit with the "Ominous Wet Fish of Friendship"?

What is this, you ask? Simple. Let's say you like (in my case) a very nice girl You get to know her, you talk with her, go out on a couple of dates. Then, she kindly lets you know that she really likes you, AS A FRIEND.

That is the Wet Fish. Anyone who fishes will know what its like to get hit in the face with a fish you've been trying to reel in. I turn 33 years old tomorrow (Oct 3rd), and I've been hit with this Fish so many times, its lost all meaning.

Anyone else have any thoughts?

I'm sorry.. I have to laugh.. where I come from, we refer to our faghags as "fish"...

But to answer your question, yes, I have been hit with it, both from girls in the past, as well as my "ex." I *really* hope that I don't get hit with it with this prospect I have now, though...

~ver

Excuse my ignorance, but what's a "faghag"?

Defiant wrote:Excuse my ignorance, but what's a "faghag"?

Women who constantly hang around gay men, or who make it a point to become very close friends with gay men, for various reasons. IIRC, that is.

Hotfoot wrote:

Defiant wrote:Excuse my ignorance, but what's a "faghag"?

Women who constantly hang around gay men, or who make it a point to become very close friends with gay men, for various reasons. IIRC, that is.

Hell, they use the biggest, most painful Fishes when they decide to smack you. Never understood that one...

Hotfoot wrote:

Defiant wrote:Excuse my ignorance, but what's a "faghag"?

Women who constantly hang around gay men, or who make it a point to become very close friends with gay men, for various reasons. IIRC, that is.

Something like that, yes..

~ver

Zaia wrote:

Darth Fanboy wrote:

Zaia wrote:Wet fish?

I don't want to think of any guy thinking of me as a wet fish. Eww.

Fortunately you are stimulating enough (mentally of course) that I think of your as more of a damp minx.

LOL

That's gorgeous.

That plus youve got the Spike/Julia thing going on and well...umm.yeah that sounds about right.

Hotfoot wrote:

Defiant wrote:Excuse my ignorance, but what's a "faghag"?

Women who constantly hang around gay men, or who make it a point to become very close friends with gay men, for various reasons. IIRC, that is.

What do you call the opposite of a faghag?? (eg. a man who hang around with lesbians)

Simon H.Johansen wrote:What do you call the opposite of a faghag?? (eg. a man who hang around with lesbians)

An optimist.

(looks up "optimist" in a dictionary)

[Homer Simpson] I see. [/Homer Simpson]

Darth Wong wrote:

Simon H.Johansen wrote:What do you call the opposite of a faghag?? (eg. a man who hang around with lesbians)

An optimist.

Or extremely clever. Someone who hangs about with women can, after a time understand them better. This can help the guy in question in the field of dating and such.

Gandalf wrote:Or extremely clever. Someone who hangs about with women can, after a time understand them better. This can help the guy in question in the field of dating and such.

Or a punching bag. If you hang around women all the time, you've got to be very careful. If you don't show enough spine, you are going to be fashioned into a doormat, where they tease and torment you endlessly in a way that borders on harassment while safely containing you in the dreaded Friend Zone. It's a truly sad fate for a man, but alas happens all to often.

Remember, women can smell a weenie (HAHAHA! *ahem*) and in a pack can be dangerous. Being a lone male who hangs out with a pack of women is practically offering them his balls for the taking. Only serious testicular fortitude can prevent being made into the group punching bag. There are techniques and tricks that can prevent them from owning a guy, but they are no guarantee.

Gil Hamilton wrote:

Gandalf wrote:Or extremely clever. Someone who hangs about with women can, after a time understand them better. This can help the guy in question in the field of dating and such.

Or a punching bag. If you hang around women all the time, you've got to be very careful. If you don't show enough spine, you are going to be fashioned into a doormat, where they tease and torment you endlessly in a way that borders on harassment while safely containing you in the dreaded Friend Zone.

Thing is just that I'm kinda afraid of "showing spine" out of fear of losing their respect. (At least if you mean by "showing spine" as I think you do)

Wt fish of friendship huh? Try dealing with this repeating form: "I only want a platonic friendship"
2 hours later "how do you feel about a purely physical relationship?'
Immediately after the fun is had: "We are never doing this again, and I don't want anything to do with you"
A week lately: "Come to bed with me"
Immediately after: "You know I guess I could go out with you"
Next day: "Get away from me, how dare you want to go out with me"
Next week: "Can we be friends again?"
And so the cycle repeats.

Simon H.Johansen wrote:Thing is just that I'm kinda afraid of "showing spine" out of fear of losing their respect. (At least if you mean by "showing spine" as I think you do)

Tease and torment back is what I mean by showing spine. Don't let yourself be the group weenie. Tit for tat. Women respect a guy with enough confidance not to be a doormat for them more than a doormat. That's not to say you should go overboard and become a jerk (even if some women seem to fall for jerks), but just stand up for yourself. Plus, women tend to be attracted to said guys, which is important to avoiding the dreaded Friends Zone.

Gil Hamilton wrote:

Simon H.Johansen wrote:Thing is just that I'm kinda afraid of "showing spine" out of fear of losing their respect. (At least if you mean by "showing spine" as I think you do)

Tease and torment back is what I mean by showing spine. Don't let yourself be the group weenie. Tit for tat. Women respect a guy with enough confidance not to be a doormat for them more than a doormat.

Ah, I still have too much guilty conscience.

Darth Wong wrote:

Simon H.Johansen wrote:What do you call the opposite of a faghag?? (eg. a man who hang around with lesbians)

An optimist.

In any case.. It depends. Some people call straight guys wjo hang out with lots of gay people (in general.. faghag doesn't just extend to the gay men) fagstags, but the gay men still refer to themselves as faghags. Don't ask me why. I don't get it, either. And that's coming from someone who may as well be the male version of a faghag. (Note that most faghags are bi).

~ver

Darth Wong wrote:

Simon H.Johansen wrote:What do you call the opposite of a faghag?? (eg. a man who hang around with lesbians)

An optimist.

My brother. 25 girlfriends, 15 bisexual, and one of his ex's actually told me "Yeah, well, we both decieded it was working out, and to see other women."

But yeah. I have the opposite relationship with my gf. I took Japanese in my Freshman and Sophmore years of high school, and I met up with a group of girls who were all in the second year of the course. I started sitting at their table in the lunchroom, mostly because I couldn't find a seat at the table of ICP-freaks (most of whom were also in the Japanese class)

I became good friends with most of them, even after quickly determining that they were Yaoi fans, and would make tease me as such (mostly involving making me say lines that included "throbbing shaft"s and "tight heat"s and intermingled with various Gundam Wing pilots) Next year, due to budget cuts at the school, they dumped the Japanese 2 and Japanese 3 class together, where I promptly determined just how insane this group of girls are. I ahve to give names here, just to keep them straight for this post.

Racheal: The "unsane" one, as in, she would count as insane, but not in a way that would require her to be instatutiionalized. I got to now her fairly well.

Tatiana: She bit me. Through a jacket. A leather jacket. A HEAVY leather jacket. And left a mark. She's also a pyro. She also frightens me. Alot.

Tara: She also bit me on multiple occasions, but not thorugh the jacket. I learned, later on, she had a crushon me. I also kissed her on the forehead (she's kinda short) in the middle of the arguement, just to stop it (it worked, too, but I stilll occasionally hear about it from her and the others)

Shannon: A major fan of Yaoi (anime guy/guy relationships) She'll be important in a little bit.

So, come a little bit before valentine's day. The school, in one of it's various methods of fund raising, has a "Pay $1, sign a card, and we'll deliver a cranation to someone in the school during homeroom." As a result, Tatiana drags me aside, and ask sme "You're sending a carnation to Racheal."

"Huh? I am?"

"Yes. What? You need a dollar? Here. Do it."

Being deeply afraid of Tatiana after the biting incident, and just ingeneral, I promptly did so. As a result, we got together. This promptly resulted in all of our friends asking us when we were going to go out on a date, kiss in public, etc. etc. We promptly avoided doing so at all costs, just to annoy them.

I do, however, know someone who got the wet fish. Andrew is a firend of mine since middle school, and we were also in the Japanese classes with the girls. After I got together with Racheal, he asked Shannon out.

Tuna to the face.

Which, after she explained, was understandable. She had recently been dating, had gotten dumped, and didn't really want to get in a relationship with anybody. As a result, he sorta-stalked Shannon for half a year, and, then, somewhat jealous that I had gotten into a relationship with Racheal and that Shannon had turned him down, he suddenly started hating everybody (except Shannon) for about three months.

So yeah, it does turn men into husks of their former selves, even if the woman didn't really mean to.

How often do these relationships turn into fuckbuddy relationships, I wonder....?

And so it's known, I have someone who wants to use me as a fuckbuddy.. and to be honest, I really dislike the feeling.

~ver

verilon wrote:How often do these relationships turn into fuckbuddy relationships, I wonder....?

And so it's known, I have someone who wants to use me as a fuckbuddy.. and to be honest, I really dislike the feeling.

~ver

Fuckbuddies work best when neither side wants any kind of closer relationship.

LadyTevar wrote:

verilon wrote:How often do these relationships turn into fuckbuddy relationships, I wonder....?

And so it's known, I have someone who wants to use me as a fuckbuddy.. and to be honest, I really dislike the feeling.

~ver

Fuckbuddies work best when neither side wants any kind of closer relationship.

IMO, and from what I've observed, it just plain *doesn't* work..

~ver

Gil Hamilton wrote:

Gandalf wrote:Or extremely clever. Someone who hangs about with women can, after a time understand them better. This can help the guy in question in the field of dating and such.

Or a punching bag. If you hang around women all the time, you've got to be very careful. If you don't show enough spine, you are going to be fashioned into a doormat, where they tease and torment you endlessly in a way that borders on harassment while safely containing you in the dreaded Friend Zone. It's a truly sad fate for a man, but alas happens all to often.

Remember, women can smell a weenie (HAHAHA! *ahem*) and in a pack can be dangerous. Being a lone male who hangs out with a pack of women is practically offering them his balls for the taking. Only serious testicular fortitude can prevent being made into the group punching bag. There are techniques and tricks that can prevent them from owning a guy, but they are no guarantee.

I hang around in a group of women, as the lone man, though one of the ladies in question is a lesbian. I'm not the punching bag, not the doormat, or anything, and we're all going up to a beach house for a week soon.

I did the same Gandalf and I know what you're talking about.

Yes, it gives you a great knowledge about the way women think.