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Posted: 2003-04-24 09:45am
by Cpt_Frank
Well, I guess no one will object if I send it to OT.

Posted: 2003-04-24 09:49am
by Kelly Antilles
Want to change the title too, Frank? Although I'd think it would be best served in SLAM. It is a morality issue.

Posted: 2003-04-24 09:53am
by Cpt_Frank
Although I'd think it would be best served in SLAM. It is a morality issue.
I left a shadow in SLAM.
Want to change the title too, Frank?
Hmm, I dunno, what should I change it to? Wouldn't it be better to put a warning next to the link?

Posted: 2003-04-24 11:02am
by Zaia
XaLEv wrote:Well isn't that interesting.
LOL

XaLEv, you rock. This is a beautiful response.

Posted: 2003-04-24 11:04am
by SWPIGWANG
Anyway, thats pic is nothing.....

Posted: 2003-04-24 11:08am
by Zaia
SWPIGWANG wrote:Anyway, thats pic is nothing.....
It is something when you're expecting just a pic of a sword....

Posted: 2003-04-24 11:09am
by Iceberg
SPOOFE wrote:So women aren't allowed to be strong? Y'all would prefer that they stay in the kitchen, barefoot and pregnant?
That's not a woman. That's a chemical freak show. When's the last time she menstruated?

I know strong women. As a karate student, you tend to hang around with them on a regular basis. One of the junior instructors at my dojo is a woman two years older than me who can toss any other black belt at the dojo around the floor with incredible ease. She does NOT LOOK LIKE A STEROID FREAK SHOW. In fact, outside of the dojo, you wouldn't even guess how scary Gail-sempai can be in a fight (unless you were looking for one, in which case you wouldn't find out until you were lying on the ground bleeding).

Posted: 2003-04-24 11:19am
by XaLEv
Zaia wrote:
XaLEv wrote:Well isn't that interesting.
LOL

XaLEv, you rock. This is a beautiful response.
Why, yes, yes I do. Thank you for noticing. And you rock as well. Very good taste.

:mrgreen: :P

Posted: 2003-04-24 11:20am
by Sriad
Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:
Tsyroc wrote::shock: WTF is right.

And I thought Bev Francis was scary.
Who?

*Google Pic Searches: Bev Francis*

*comes back with: ##WTF## NO BOOBS!!!! ##WTF##*
Um. It looks like she's had her sternum removed.

Posted: 2003-04-25 03:24am
by XaLEv
SPOOFE wrote:
I liked your strawman before. Do you build them yourself?
Do you even know what a strawman is?
Better than you do, apparently. Behold:

What was really said: It is unhealthy and unattractive for women to change their bodies in that way to that degree.

What you interpreted it as: Women should not be strong. They should stay in the kitchen, barefoot and pregnant.

See the difference?

Posted: 2003-04-25 03:36am
by Stampede
all other disturbing things aside...why in god's name would you want one of those katanas? Tropen has one of those he bought off of eBay. it looks alright, but fails in comparisan to some of the swords i have up on my wall. although none are katanas.[/quote]

Posted: 2003-04-25 04:30am
by Batman
Stampede wrote:all other disturbing things aside...why in god's name would you want one of those katanas? Tropen has one of those he bought off of eBay. it looks alright, but fails in comparisan to some of the swords i have up on my wall. although none are katanas.
Erm...Since they're up on your wall, I assume those swords are for decoration, i.e. they're supposed to look good. If that Katana "looks allright", methinks it fullfills the only requirement a decoration has, no?

Mind you, I despise curved blades with a passion, but if people like Katanas, so freaking what? It's not like youre forced to buy one...


You aren't are you?If so just send the bat-signal!

On a slightly more on-topic note, the first picture is weird and the second is disgusting.

EDITed to correct spelling FUBAR
EDIT Twice.

Posted: 2003-04-25 04:35am
by Stampede
Erm...Since they're up on your wall, I assume those swords are for decoration, i.e. they're supposed to look good.
actually...these swords are fully sharpen and ready to go. im not much for decoration swords and the only reason these are up on the wall is cause i have no room for them anywhere else. that and it looks better than them in a corner on the floor like some people i know with swords. :D

Posted: 2003-04-25 04:47am
by Batman
Stampede wrote:
Erm...Since they're up on your wall, I assume those swords are for decoration, i.e. they're supposed to look good.
actually...these swords are fully sharpen and ready to go. im not much for decoration swords and the only reason these are up on the wall is cause i have no room for them anywhere else. that and it looks better than them in a corner on the floor like some people i know with swords. :D
Ah.My bad.*Hastily picks up swords from floor* Sorry for the misunderstanding.

Posted: 2003-04-25 04:51am
by Stampede
LoL. i just figured if i'm gonna have them...i might as well put them somewhere besides inside a closet or something. somewhere where theyre outta the way and where others can see them. plus if need be...easy access :D

Posted: 2003-04-25 04:55am
by Batman
Stampede wrote:LoL. i just figured if i'm gonna have them...i might as well put them somewhere besides inside a closet or something. somewhere where theyre outta the way and where others can see them. plus if need be...easy access :D
*looks around for place to put swords*Hey, they're yours. As long as it's not in people, place them wherever you want. Heck, depending on who you place them in, go right ahead :wink:

Posted: 2003-04-25 04:58am
by Stampede
*looks around for place to put swords*Hey, they're yours. As long as it's not in people, place them wherever you want. Heck, depending on who you place them in, go right ahead
LoL :lol:

Hey Cal...remember that time you hit me in the head with a bat when we were little.... :twisted:

Posted: 2003-04-25 06:39am
by Saurencaerthai
FOUND THE KATANA!!!!
Ummm, actually you didn't. What you found is often known in the modern blade world as a "ninja sword". As far as I know, these are holywood fabrications and have little historical background.
Now, HERE'S the katana!
Image
The Hanwei Folded Tiger katana!

Posted: 2003-04-25 06:59am
by Boba Fett
Yes you're right that's a katana.

@Einy: Katanas and wakizasis always have slightly curved blade.

On your picture I saw a ninja blade...I don't remember the japanese name for it.

Ninja swords are not hollywood fabrications and definitely has a long historical background. Long time ago all the japanese swords had straight blades like the ninja swords have.
When Japan invaded China -centuries ago- during a siege they found out that the straight blades are less flexible and can break more often then the curved ones. Since then they produced curved blades for katanas and wakizasis.

The ninjas preferred the straight, shorter blade though since they often used the sword for various other functions -beside sword fighting- as well.

Posted: 2003-04-25 07:13am
by Keevan_Colton
Ninjato

Though, I am quite fond of a slightly curved blade...it offers a lot of possibilities for controling an opponents blade.

Posted: 2003-04-25 07:22am
by Boba Fett
Keevan_Colton wrote:Ninjato

Though, I am quite fond of a slightly curved blade...it offers a lot of possibilities for controling an opponents blade.
Yes it was the ninja-to! Thanks Keevan!

But at very close range the ninja-to is more useful then a katana.

Posted: 2003-04-25 07:31am
by Keevan_Colton
Boba Fett wrote: Yes it was the ninja-to! Thanks Keevan!

But at very close range the ninja-to is more useful then a katana.
That's because of the shorter blade length, but in such situations (i.e. indoors/cramped confines) the wakazashi is a more likely match for it....

And in open spaces, the reach of the katana can be a decisive advantage.

Posted: 2003-04-25 08:15pm
by Saurencaerthai
Ninja swords are not hollywood fabrications and definitely has a long historical background. Long time ago all the japanese swords had straight blades like the ninja swords have.
When Japan invaded China -centuries ago- during a siege they found out that the straight blades are less flexible and can break more often then the curved ones. Since then they produced curved blades for katanas and wakizasis.
I'm sorry, but none of the Chinese blades found in Japan I've seen resemble the ninja sword of today. Also, a greater reason for the curved blades was simply because they were easier to wield and draw while mounted. The curve of the blade is the result of the tempering of a bi-metal strip with a soft metal core and a hard edge and outer body. This combination of the properties of glass (sharp but fragile) and rubber (durable, but with a poor edge) made it into a superior sword which even bested Toledo and Damascus steel. Could you please back the history of this more?
Boba Fett wrote:

Yes it was the ninja-to! Thanks Keevan!

But at very close range the ninja-to is more useful then a katana.
Once again, the Wakazashi is as well, ideal for indoor fighting. This was mentioned in Sword-saint Musashi's tactical manual "The book of Five rings".

Posted: 2003-04-25 09:46pm
by Keevan_Colton
Saurencaerthai wrote:
Ninja swords are not hollywood fabrications and definitely has a long historical background. Long time ago all the japanese swords had straight blades like the ninja swords have.
When Japan invaded China -centuries ago- during a siege they found out that the straight blades are less flexible and can break more often then the curved ones. Since then they produced curved blades for katanas and wakizasis.
I'm sorry, but none of the Chinese blades found in Japan I've seen resemble the ninja sword of today. Also, a greater reason for the curved blades was simply because they were easier to wield and draw while mounted. The curve of the blade is the result of the tempering of a bi-metal strip with a soft metal core and a hard edge and outer body. This combination of the properties of glass (sharp but fragile) and rubber (durable, but with a poor edge) made it into a superior sword which even bested Toledo and Damascus steel. Could you please back the history of this more?
This sounds like you're seeing something akin to a gim or scholars sword, the kind most commonly thought of as a "tai-chi" sword in marketing terms. A straight blade, usually of similar length to a ninjato, sometimes a bit longer...an excellent light weapon.

As for the katana, the properties of the steel render it more vulnerable to shattering if struck properly on the back edge than blades forged in other styles.
Boba Fett wrote:

Yes it was the ninja-to! Thanks Keevan!

But at very close range the ninja-to is more useful then a katana.
Once again, the Wakazashi is as well, ideal for indoor fighting. This was mentioned in Sword-saint Musashi's tactical manual "The book of Five rings".
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I was never overly taken with the Book of Five Rings, but using a shorter blade in confined spaces is simply an application of good sense rather than a great revelation.....