The Dark Knight (GODDAMN SPOILERS)

[Kamakazie Sith]

Threat to use a knife on a police officer is justification for deadly force. Instead of placing a round into his head (the range was close enough that a trained marksman would find it difficult to miss) or using a taser, they acquiesced to his demand.

Anyway, why the fuck did he remain standing as if nothing happened while cops not five meters aware were supposedly fully disabled?

I'll second this part. It's a nitpick out of what I consider overall an excellent film.

However, the Joker should have been shot in the head. That was a dream shot. I laughed during that scene because the position of the Jokers head relative to the hostages was almost identical to that of the training targets we used, and he was closer.

[loomer]

Actually, even with third degree burns, pain will still remain in a fair few cases. Additionally, the surrounding tissue will suffer thermal damage, even if not direct fire damage, and as such burn, thus resulting in pain from THOSE nerves.

[Havok]

Saw it again tonight. 3rd screening. IMAX. It's pretty cool at first, but then just meh. Nothing outrageously special. Also, just in case you are going to see it for the experience, it is only a certain number of scenes done in IMAX, not the whole movie.

Lets see...
Assuming Maroni dies, I've got the count up to 4 for Dent's kills. The Cop in the bar, the driver, Maroni, and what I finally saw tonight, a third mob guy that gets grabbed on the very FAR left of the screen around the neck/jaw. If we assume he is killed and Gordon assumes that Ramirez is dead, that makes 5 dead, two of them cops.

The Joker's shot gun fire DID NOT penetrate the armored van and they are INDEED paint chips flying at the screen. The cop inside even comments on the fact after Dent inquires about if they can penetrate.

Maggie Gyllenhal is BORING, and now I am sure that I liked Katie Holmes more.

Bale's Batman voice gets more annoying each screening.

30 million people in one fucking city is fucking nuts. No wonder it is such a fucked up place.

They never specifically state that Dent is dead. "...dies with his reputation." are the words they used IIRC. I think Two-Face will be back in the third movie, and it will be he, that consolidates what remains of the mobs and crime in Gotham, and who better to do it, as he knows them all and how they work very well. It also fills out his transformation to Two-Face, as as Harvey he was the top man in the war AGAINST crime, and now he will be the top man AGAINST law and order.

Gary Oldman is the fucking man.

[Bounty]

30 million people in one fucking city is fucking nuts. No wonder it is such a fucked up place.

I strongly suspect that's an error; the real Chicago has a population one-tenth of that, and IIRC that specific number onlu counts the people living on the main island, which would give the city a population density of way too fucking much.

They never specifically state that Dent is dead.

A four-storey fall, no ambulances, and he gets a funeral? I'm pretty sure Dent is dead and buried, unless the ceremony at the end was just a cover-up.

[Havok]

30 million people in one fucking city is fucking nuts. No wonder it is such a fucked up place.

I strongly suspect that's an error; the real Chicago has a population one-tenth of that, and IIRC that specific number onlu counts the people living on the main island, which would give the city a population density of way too fucking much.

Well obviously it's not supposed to actually be Chicago, and I believe they used a digitally enhanced and enlarged Chicago in Begins. Also, in universe, arguably the smartest man in the city is where the number comes from. I would hope someone that can turn unwilling cell phones into a massive sonar array knows how many people live in his city.

They never specifically state that Dent is dead.

A four-storey fall, no ambulances, and he gets a funeral? I'm pretty sure Dent is dead and buried, unless the ceremony at the end was just a cover-up.

Like I said before, they went so far as to let Gordon's wife and children believe he was dead to protect them. I see no reason why they wouldn't let Gotham believe Dent was dead to protect the city. It also doesn't seem like that much of stretch to believe that a Police force such as Gotham's, that was completely infested with corruption, would have a hard time participating in a cover up.

As for the fall, well if The Joker can survive that Semi flip and Harvey can survive that limo wreck, the little 4 story fall, although I thought it was only two, seems like small potatos.

[Admiral Valdemar]

Harvey being alive or dead is up to Nolan. If he does a third film, he can decide whether to make Two Face the main villain or not then. Otherwise, it's deliberately left open.

[Solauren]

We saw Batman: Dark Knight on Friday.


Holy Shit! Batman must have gotten Superman's balls or something.

Too bad about Racheal. Although, knowing the Joker, her building might not have exploded after all.

Think about it; he's the master of bait and switch, say one thing, do another, misdirection, etc, in the movie.

Put Dent in a real explosion position, tell Batman that's where the girl is.

Batman saves him, and thinks the girl is dead. He's trying to push Batman over the edge.

And if it doesn't, he still has Rachael to torment and turn against Batman, say under the name, Harley Quinn.

[Crazedwraith]

Harvey being alive or dead is up to Nolan. If he does a third film, he can decide whether to make Two Face the main villain or not then. Otherwise, it's deliberately left open.

Two Face would work. We've just had the Dark Knight. Logically, the next one would be "The Dark Knight Returns" I can see the first chapter of DKR (ie) the one with Two Face) being quite easy to adapt to Nolanverse.

[General Zod]

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4. My procurement had no effect on the market of the copyrighted work. I'd already paid money to view it anyway.

You're still a fucking idiot. But this is to be expected.

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Since it's impossible for you to have obtained permission and "fair use" is highly questionable, you have no argument. You pirated it regardless of how much you want to mince words you fucking turd. At least have the balls to admit it instead of being a mealy mouthed little dipshit.

[Admiral Valdemar]

I find the ending to TDK to be masterfully done for either eventuality. Leaving it as it is, you still get across the challenge Bruce has in trying to save his father's city. The people may not understand him; even hate him for his sacrifices, but at the end of the day, no one else can bring any justice like the image of Batman. Dent was their only shot, and Bruce Wayne's too, and The Joker killed that hope stone dead.

He has always been a necessary evil in the mythos, and the dark phyrric victory in this instance highlights that fact. Just as with Hancock, if Bruce retired without anyone taking his place, be it the legal or vigilante route, people would soon change their tune.

[Ziggy Stardust]

Somebody mentioned a "count day" as justification to have money stacked in the vault. Why would they only do this annually?

Thanks for dodging the point. Where's your evidence that they do it weekly?

No shit sherlock. Some cocksucker deleted my post, in which I stated that there were tens or hundreds of millions of dollars. I can post calculations if anybody asks.

You were the one claiming the amount of money involved was over-the-top, you fucking idiot, you think I can't go back and read your previous posts?

Yeah, totally similar. There certainly hasn't been any change in investigative techniques, police tactics, the scope of the media, social attitudes, etc.

So? You were the one claiming that the mob wouldn't use the strategy they did, when in fact it IS a proven tactic. I'm not claiming it's a good one.

A heightened security situation in the city doesn't mean that trusted courthouse security personnel would have a very difficult time of carrying a concealed gun through.

Which contradicts my point ... how? I said that that the security person would have a better chance than a civilian. And you refute that by ... saying a security person wouldn't have a difficult time getting through?

Read your own article, idiot. That black market is wholly supplied by sea and shipments from China. Not by fucking aircraft from South Korea.

God, you are fucking dense. http://www.dailynk.com/english/read.php ... 0&num=3892 . And don't think we haven't noticed you moving your goalposts. Smuggling thrives in North Korea, which refutes your argument.

That's nice. The van's roof wasn't covered in meters of snow, fucktard.

Thanks for dodging the point.

You will now show where I claimed that Batman should not have survived the fall.

"How is Batman's suit supposed to protect him from getting his bones and internal organs shredded at the conclusion of a 20-meter fall? At best, he'd be out of commission for weeks while recovering."

Are you really this fucking stupid? Stop contradicting yourself.

Not only did he duck, he also turned toward the source of the fragments.

Which is exactly what people do in that sort of situation. What are you trying to prove here?

Incompetent at capturing criminals, perhaps. When was the last time you heard of a fucking cop being a hostage inside a goddamned police station?

God you are dense.

Ok motherfucker, YOU WILL IMMEDIATELY SHOW WHERE I CLAIMED THAT THERE WAS NO SMUGGLING INTO NORTH KOREA.

Are you serious? "Even if we accept the "under the radar" justification provided, it's preposterous that a smuggling flight would not be detected in the goddamned capital of the most motherfucking militarized state on the planet. And finally, just who the fuck would be their customers?" That is the second blatant contradiction I have got you in, motherfucker.

After a while, I stopped tracking all but the most significant of bullshit.

And once again you demonstrate your piss-poor reading comprehension. Congratulations, you're an idiot.

[Admiral Valdemar]

Guys, why are you responding to an obvious troll who shouldn't even be on here because of self-confessed piracy?

Shitcan the 'tard already. So he doesn't like a piece of brilliant fiction. I won't be losing sleep over his lack of taste and brain cells.

[The Spartan]

I saw this over the weekend (finally). I was speechless. I would not have known that was Heath Ledger had I not already been told who was playing the Joker. He was downright disturbing.

I may need to see it again but offhand I can't think of anything I didn't particularly like about the film.

Something I said to a friend of mine was, "How many climaxes did that damn thing have? I kept thinking it was going to wrap up and it didn't." But not in a bad way like how Return of the King goes (which I understand) but in a good way that kept pulling me back in for more.

[Admiral Valdemar]

See it in IMAX if you can. It's revolutionary that way, trust me. I shall try and catch it that way again, but it's fully booked at the London one for the next week or two.

The funny thing about the wrapping up is, I actually thought the Batpod chase was the final scene, despite the fact that I knew it wasn't because of all the other stuff missing at that point. It did remind me of the finale to the Burton film what with Batman playing chicken with The Joker and being shot at.

[The Spartan]

See it in IMAX if you can. It's revolutionary that way, trust me. I shall try and catch it that way again, but it's fully booked at the London one for the next week or two.

Hmmm... I'll see what I can do. I'll have another chance on Friday I think.

[General Zod]

See it in IMAX if you can. It's revolutionary that way, trust me. I shall try and catch it that way again, but it's fully booked at the London one for the next week or two.

I meant to go see it in an IMAX but the one where I live was sold out for several days at the time and I was impatient. I might go and see it again if I can get tickets in a reasonable timeframe.

[Schuyler Colfax]

I don't even know if there's an IMAX theatre in my area.

[Surlethe]

Apparently, Dark Knight kicked major ass and took some names at the box office again: it has passed $3*10^8 more quickly than any other film, and it looks on track to outgross Titanic. Iron Man has grossed $315 million in the last two months, and Dark Knight is poised to pass it after just two weeks.

[NecronLord]

Just seen this film. It was very, very good, Ledger made a very fucked up villain. How'd Scarecrow get out, though? I thought he was bagged in the first film?

I won't say it's better than Iron Man, but it's not far behind. I very nearly shouted 'shoot the bastard down' when Batman was charging Joker on that bike, though.

[Solauren]

No, Scarecrow was stun-gunned in the first film my Racheal, then rode off on his horse.

Gordon mentioned the amount of effort that was going to be needed to find Crane, round up the Arkyum inmates, and secure the narrows.

[Pint0 Xtreme]

Just seen this film. It was very, very good, Ledger made a very fucked up villain. How'd Scarecrow get out, though? I thought he was bagged in the first film?

I won't say it's better than Iron Man, but it's not far behind. I very nearly shouted 'shoot the bastard down' when Batman was charging Joker on that bike, though.

Actually, this part sort of confused me. What happened to Batman when he was charging the Joker? He had him and then just careened the Bat-pod around and crashed.

[Surlethe]

Just seen this film. It was very, very good, Ledger made a very fucked up villain. How'd Scarecrow get out, though? I thought he was bagged in the first film?

I won't say it's better than Iron Man, but it's not far behind. I very nearly shouted 'shoot the bastard down' when Batman was charging Joker on that bike, though.

Actually, this part sort of confused me. What happened to Batman when he was charging the Joker? He had him and then just careened the Bat-pod around and crashed.

The Joker was trying to get Batman to hit him and kill him. All part of his plan to make people reject their core values.

[Admiral Valdemar]

Just seen this film. It was very, very good, Ledger made a very fucked up villain. How'd Scarecrow get out, though? I thought he was bagged in the first film?

I won't say it's better than Iron Man, but it's not far behind. I very nearly shouted 'shoot the bastard down' when Batman was charging Joker on that bike, though.

Honestly, good as Iron Man was - and it was very, VERY good - I can't even compare it here. This is kind of like comparing Heat to Street Kings. For one thing, I can think of many ways the former can be made even more awesome, which meant it didn't live up to the hype in my mind, not that it wasn't an amazing experience. Here, TDK surpassed the hype by a mile. I can't think of the last film, let alone blockbuster, to do that.

And I sorely hope this beats the shit out of Cameron's love film.

[Anguirus]

Yeah, did you miss Joker yelling "Hit me!" and Batman yelling "No!"

Burton's Batman would kill in extreme circumstances, like when he took out the poison factory. I was ok with that but some of my Batman-loving friends find that intolerable. In the modern comics, Batman's refusal to kill is not only his moral anchor but the only reason why Gordon doesn't take him down as a vigilante. Nolan's Batman is more like that Batman.

[CaptainChewbacca]

Just seen this film. It was very, very good, Ledger made a very fucked up villain. How'd Scarecrow get out, though? I thought he was bagged in the first film?

I won't say it's better than Iron Man, but it's not far behind. I very nearly shouted 'shoot the bastard down' when Batman was charging Joker on that bike, though.

Actually, this part sort of confused me. What happened to Batman when he was charging the Joker? He had him and then just careened the Bat-pod around and crashed.

Joker played chicken with Batman, and won.