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Re: Let's Play X-COM: UFO Defense!
Posted: 2009-02-10 01:25pm
by Peptuck
Dude...why the hell did you send out a laser-equipped interceptor after a large UFO?
Avalanche missiles outrange the weaponry on those things!
Why do you even use las-interceptors at all?
Because.
Karza wrote:
But still, laser cannons exist for bringing in cash, no sane person ever arms a craft with them.
See, that's the thing....
He's using a bit of stuff that doesn't get used that often.
And frankly, for me at least, that's the charm of this.
If he was just doing what the normal standard experienced x-com player was doing, this would be boring as hell (for me at least), especially since x-com isn't that balanced a game. Instead we get to see him using weapons and researching stuff I never bothered with, since all the strategy guides I ever read said it was useless (eg, researching the various alien species, using heavy lasers and laser cannons).
Without even knowing how much experience Peptuck has with game, for me it really feels like I'm experiencing X-Com again for the first time.
Yeah, that's pretty much the whole point. I know the perfect strategy to beat X-COM, but I'm mostly screwing around with other technologies for the fun of it. I could have had heavy plasmas and personal armor researched by the end of January if I wanted, but this is more fun for me to work my way up the tech tree and test out all the other weaponry.
Re: Let's Play X-COM: UFO Defense!
Posted: 2009-02-10 01:30pm
by Vanas
I appear to be fully alive after Zablorg's little problem with his trigger finger. At least I hope you didn't send me out into battle twice with shrapnel wounds and internal bleeding.
Re: Let's Play X-COM: UFO Defense!
Posted: 2009-02-10 01:33pm
by Peptuck
Vanas wrote:I appear to be fully alive after Zablorg's little problem with his trigger finger. At least I hope you didn't send me out into battle twice with shrapnel wounds and internal bleeding.
Not like the game will let you. If a soldier gets wounded, they
have to wait to be healed before going back into combat. And that takes a long time.
Point in case, its taken close to a month before all of the people Zablorg shot up are finally fully healed.
Kind of annoying when your psi corps gets shot up.
Re: Let's Play X-COM: UFO Defense!
Posted: 2009-02-10 01:34pm
by The Defenestrator
Peptuck wrote:
Oh good, I am on the team. And only slightly misspelled. Usually people call me something like "Defense... es... guy"
Re: Let's Play X-COM: UFO Defense!
Posted: 2009-02-11 03:23am
by Rekkon
Excellent. The aliens now cannot kill more of me than I have of them. And do I interpret the AAR correctly in that I was the first human to kill a Snakeman? Another trophy for my wall. Sure, Robo-Vendetta killed more, but I am just as happy to not have had to die first.
Also, I happened to be poking around my old Photobucket files and came across this:
It was scanned from the mini-comic that was on the X-Com Collector's Edition box.
Re: Let's Play X-COM: UFO Defense!
Posted: 2009-02-11 08:10pm
by fnord
Peptuck wrote:
Karza wrote:
But still, laser cannons exist for bringing in cash, no sane person ever arms a craft with them.
See, that's the thing....
So you let Dr Bear arm the interceptors? YOU MANIAC!
In other news, me and the boyz are (somehow) managing to get that blasted hyperwave decoder built - with any luck, the 2nd and later installations shouldn't be anywhere near as problematic.
Re: Let's Play X-COM: UFO Defense!
Posted: 2009-02-11 08:13pm
by phred
Did i not just get finished telling you to get better missiles?!
This is what happens when people dont listen to me.
Re: Let's Play X-COM: UFO Defense!
Posted: 2009-02-11 08:39pm
by The Yosemite Bear
I personally go for twin avalanches my self, I'm crazy not stupid, however HR and accounting insist that laser armed interceptors are more efficient and cost effective,
Re: Let's Play X-COM: UFO Defense!
Posted: 2009-02-11 08:48pm
by Vendetta
What happened to the old X-Com mantra of missiles for every occasion? There is no problem that cannot be solved by missiles.
Re: Let's Play X-COM: UFO Defense!
Posted: 2009-02-12 02:34am
by The Yosemite Bear
Vendetta wrote:What happened to the old X-Com mantra of missiles for every occasion? There is no problem that cannot be solved by missiles.
Running out of ammo?
Re: Let's Play X-COM: UFO Defense!
Posted: 2009-02-12 02:41am
by Peptuck
The Yosemite Bear wrote:Vendetta wrote:What happened to the old X-Com mantra of missiles for every occasion? There is no problem that cannot be solved by missiles.
Running out of ammo?
One laser cannon sale will net you enough money to supply two Avalanche-armed Interceptors for a month, easily.
The real problem is storing all those missiles.
Re: Let's Play X-COM: UFO Defense!
Posted: 2009-02-12 06:03am
by The Yosemite Bear
BTW in the game I was playing this afternoon, the very first alien we nabbed was a navigator, which got us Hyperwaves by the end of Febuary, Now we are in april, base two has lasers, base 1 has heavy plasma, and I am running neck and neck, to develop laser/plasma cannons.
Re: Let's Play X-COM: UFO Defense!
Posted: 2009-02-12 12:10pm
by Jonen C
The Yosemite Bear wrote:Vendetta wrote:What happened to the old X-Com mantra of missiles for every occasion? There is no problem that cannot be solved by missiles.
Running out of ammo?
That is such a hilariously bad question!
The solution to that problem is
MORE MISSILES!
Re: Let's Play X-COM: UFO Defense!
Posted: 2009-02-12 07:47pm
by Vendetta
If you have more missiles than you have room for, go and shoot something with them to make room for more.
Re: Let's Play X-COM: UFO Defense!
Posted: 2009-02-12 07:51pm
by Darth Smiley
X-Com Demolition Team Motto: "All walls are just doors waiting to happen"
X-Com Pilot Corps Motto: "There only problem not solvable by missiles is a lack of missiles"
Re: Let's Play X-COM: UFO Defense!
Posted: 2009-02-12 08:02pm
by Vendetta
Darth Smiley wrote:X-Com Demolition Team Motto: "All walls are just doors waiting to happen"
What are these walls you speak of?
Next thing you'll be wittering about "barns" or other such nonsense.
Re: Let's Play X-COM: UFO Defense!
Posted: 2009-02-12 11:11pm
by Peptuck
Vendetta wrote:Darth Smiley wrote:X-Com Demolition Team Motto: "All walls are just doors waiting to happen"
What are these walls you speak of?
Next thing you'll be wittering about "barns" or other such nonsense.
On the battlefield, there is only the enemy and things that stand between us and the enemy, which are little better.
Working on the next update now (Damn you,
Project Origin....)
Re: Let's Play X-COM: UFO Defense!
Posted: 2009-02-13 03:38am
by The Yosemite Bear
There is no overkill, there is open fire, and damn I'm out of ammo.
Re: Let's Play X-COM: UFO Defense!
Posted: 2009-02-13 05:43am
by weemadando
Always remember:
Plan A - Direct application of explosives.
Plan B - Indirect application of explosives.
Re: Let's Play X-COM: UFO Defense!
Posted: 2009-02-13 08:52pm
by Jonen C
Darth Smiley wrote:X-Com Pilot Corps Motto: "There only problem not solvable by missiles is a lack of missiles"
This motto does not make any sense.
The only way to solve the problem of a lack of missiles is
MORE MISSILES!
Re: Let's Play X-COM: UFO Defense!
Posted: 2009-02-13 09:08pm
by The Yosemite Bear
Jonen C wrote:Darth Smiley wrote:X-Com Pilot Corps Motto: "There only problem not solvable by missiles is a lack of missiles"
This motto does not make any sense.
The only way to solve the problem of a lack of missiles is
MORE MISSILES!
obviously you've never had scouts up the waazuu trying to find your base, when the most recent shipment can't arrive before you have to kill 3 more scouts.
Re: Let's Play X-COM: UFO Defense!
Posted: 2009-02-13 10:03pm
by Peptuck
The Yosemite Bear wrote:Jonen C wrote:Darth Smiley wrote:X-Com Pilot Corps Motto: "There only problem not solvable by missiles is a lack of missiles"
This motto does not make any sense.
The only way to solve the problem of a lack of missiles is
MORE MISSILES!
obviously you've never had scouts up the waazuu trying to find your base, when the most recent shipment can't arrive before you have to kill 3 more scouts.
The solution to that is to have MORE MISSILES at your base.
I personally make it a point to order a fresh supply of missiles after every battle to replace expended resources.
Re: Let's Play X-COM: UFO Defense!
Posted: 2009-02-13 11:04pm
by The Defenestrator
If it's not too late to be serious, I've been wondering lately: Almost everything I read about the game suggests that everyone always goes for arming their troops with laser rifles and/or heavy plasma. Those are really good direct-fire weapons, but I'm surprised no one seems to use plasma rifles at all. They have the best snapshot and autofire accuracy in the game, pretty good damage, and a large enough clip for almost any situation. Is it just because the aliens eventually stop using them?
Re: Let's Play X-COM: UFO Defense!
Posted: 2009-02-14 12:46am
by Eulogy
The Defenestrator wrote:If it's not too late to be serious, I've been wondering lately: Almost everything I read about the game suggests that everyone always goes for arming their troops with laser rifles and/or heavy plasma. Those are really good direct-fire weapons, but I'm surprised no one seems to use plasma rifles at all. They have the best snapshot and autofire accuracy in the game, pretty good damage, and a large enough clip for almost any situation. Is it just because the aliens eventually stop using them?
Yep. Plasma clips require precious elerium, after all.
Re: Let's Play X-COM: UFO Defense!
Posted: 2009-02-14 04:07am
by Karza
Eulogy wrote:The Defenestrator wrote:If it's not too late to be serious, I've been wondering lately: Almost everything I read about the game suggests that everyone always goes for arming their troops with laser rifles and/or heavy plasma. Those are really good direct-fire weapons, but I'm surprised no one seems to use plasma rifles at all. They have the best snapshot and autofire accuracy in the game, pretty good damage, and a large enough clip for almost any situation. Is it just because the aliens eventually stop using them?
Yep. Plasma clips require precious elerium, after all.
Furthermore, the extra wallop Heavy Plasmas provide is enough to occasionally knock down inner non-security UFO walls, the normal rifle can't do that.
Then for me there's also the personal preference of firepower over accuracy
.