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DarthShady wrote:


The Shadow Empire can afford these expenses, because we have recently discovered large quantities of large Diamonds in the shadow mountains.

OOC:So what your telling me is your a small country with little to no defenses to speak of sitting onto of a multi-billion dollar diamond mine?

So.... Where are you on the world map anyway?/OOC

Emperor Shady

Just be careful, man. You don't want to bankrupt your small nation - which is still recovering from its short war with Shroomania. I mean, even with the FUNGAL AXIS to back you up...

Even Shroomania is careful with our military spending, and our fancy scientific efforts are made in concert with other well-to-do nations.

Mr Bean wrote:

DarthShady wrote:


The Shadow Empire can afford these expenses, because we have recently discovered large quantities of large Diamonds in the shadow mountains.

OOC:So what your telling me is your a small country with little to no defenses to speak of sitting onto of a multi-billion dollar diamond mine? /OOC

Yes i am. And my empire will trade with anyone who is interested.

I hope that my newfound wealth will not cause any invasions upon my nation.

*sends large ammounts of diamonds to Mr Bean*

My thanks to Shroomania, for it's advice. We shall be more careful with our spending. The Emperor got carried away.

oh and the BR remains neutral, but obnoxious.

I would like to object to my nation's classification based on size.

Here ye, Hwere ye,

It has come to the Lord High CEO's attention that there may be more then one Smaller Nation boasting claims that are far beyond said nations resource ablities. It is Proposed that a council shall be conveinged to take a tally of all nations resources and ablities that have been "claimed" and see if they conflict wiht what said nation is capable of supporting or producing.

Additional, It is now evident that the forum in which we are currently holding all international discussions have surpassed all previous expectation in the range of size and scope that it has reached.

It is herby motined to the rest of the UN of SDnet, that a new 'Thread' be opened that wish we can continue, with a fresh start, our poltical discorse. While at the same time, preserving this immense bastian to "Rarw" for all time.

Here in the newly politically restructured Republic of Caledonia, we would like to propose a joint military-industrial trade agreement with members of the Omsk Pact wherein our soldiers and engineers work alongside yours in order to gain experience on large-scale projects and combat that Caledonia would otherwise not be able to afford. We believe that this will mutually benefit both sides of any such agreement, as the participating nation will gain the support of our personnel, while we then have experienced people to work on smaller-scale projects in our own nations and veteran troops to train our recruits.

To sweeten the deal, I am offering a 99-year lease on an excellent natural harbor on the southern coast of Caledonia to the first signing nation.

(Note: by the way, Crossroads, I am not "looking to join" FYTO, I am part of FYTO)

Crossroads Inc. wrote:Here ye, Hwere ye,

It has come to the Lord High CEO's attention that there may be more then one Smaller Nation boasting claims that are far beyond said nations resource ablities. It is Proposed that a council shall be conveinged to take a tally of all nations resources and ablities that have been "claimed" and see if they conflict wiht what said nation is capable of supporting or producing.

Perhaps we shall send a multinational taskforce of weapons inspectors?

Additional, It is now evident that the forum in which we are currently holding all international discussions have surpassed all previous expectation in the range of size and scope that it has reached.

It is herby motined to the rest of the UN of SDnet, that a new 'Thread' be opened that wish we can continue, with a fresh start, our poltical discorse. While at the same time, preserving this immense bastian to "Rarw" for all time.

Who shall make the opening post of that new thread? The OP must have a short summary of 'current events'. I'd nominate either the Tireless Data Collectors of Crossrodia, or the Superpowerful AIs of the Red Technocracy (which invented the internet).

The Red Techocracy proposes the following idea: we start 1 additional thread - one with a Renewable World Map and a Renewable SD.Nation History Chronicle in the first post - and clean Nation Summaries in the latter posts. This will make it easy for newcoming Nations to get around.

While this thread remains the venue for ongoing events.

And yes indeed, we do need weapon inspectors. Building huge monstrosities does impact finances; for example, it is clear that Starglider's Technoutopian Confederation seems to waste a huge part of it's GDP on the production of enormous buildings - the railgun ring seems to be so huge as to employ several times more concrete than the Three Gorges dam and being many times it's scale, thus it seems it's real cost might be running into well over a hundred billion, not to mention the parallel project. For many years, this might consume as much as 10% of GDP which would mean significant budgetary constraints or a rising public debt.

Okay, I like the notion for a reference thread.

Um. Shroomania would like to clarify that its own railgun weapons systems is a miniaturized version of the Technoutopian Confederation's technology

[Hrm. Maybe I just erase that whole railgun thing. Seems silly. We have to balance our serious business with silly stuff....]

Ripped mine off from Ace Combat

Shroomania would like to clarify that its own railgun weapons systems is a miniaturized version of the Technoutopian Confederation's technology

Well, you've just shown a few railguns. Starglider demonstrated the entire project scope which is frankly possible for his nation, especialy given it's political line, but not an easy thing to tackle.

And your nation is far more able to make that than Starglider - you outclass him by GDP

Crossroads Inc wrote:Simplicius (Tiny Nation) Senator

The Foreign Office of T.M.C.K. St. George takes offense at the characterization of T.M.C.K. St. George as "tiny." The Glorious Incorporated Nation of Crossroadia should expect a visit from the St. George Royal Cartographic Society delegation after it departs the Red Technocracy.

Out of character, I'm presuming that I don't have to worry about building/buying costs for any weapons systems 'gifted' to us by the OP, so the only actual costs for those systems I have to be concerned about are ongoing operating costs. The cost of any building beyond that initial capability must be borne solely by my GDP. Is that accurate?

I took a liberty or two with e.g. GDP by scaling it relative to the GDP per capita of the country closest in size to my own. Only added $100bn, but it makes the figure a little less arbitrary.

@ Stas: Besides, you've got the Supercomputer AI

The Shroomanian Naval Authorities regrettably announce that the II Republican Transport Ship Gdynia has not yet been found and though the outlook is dim, our sailors stand by their Republican allies in the continuation of search and rescue efforts.

Zablorg wrote: The Republic of One answers The Republic of N'ton's request for aid, but refuses to attend any meetings unless there is a bowl of donuts and other executive pastries for each seat.

Refreshments of all kinds will be provided.

Stas Bush wrote: For a lack of response by the naval powers, one ailing refugee ship from Syndromia has been lost, only 413 people oout of 1000 were saved by the internvention of Red Technocracy military vessels which traversed 200 kms to the point of catastrophe in the Vahaneim Straits.

The Republic of N'ton offers its condolences to the families and friends of those who perished, and pledges to send aid to the inhabitants of Syndromia in the form of bulk quantities of construction materials to rebuild their infrastructure. We will also be sending 3 fast-attack craft and a fast combat support ship to help make sure preventable accidents like this will not happen again.
The Republic of N'ton was planning to release this press release and aid earlier, even before a refugee ship was lost, but one of our secretaries does not appear to know how to use a stapler, and it got lost in the paper shuffle. She has since been sacked.

Zixinus wrote: 1. Then wouldn't it be more practical-minded to develop the chemical rockets first, THEN start researching the NSW rocket?

2. Even if you are in orbit around the planet, the radioisotopes will decay their orbit and still fall to the ground.

3. How will you do the tests then?

I thought it was implied that I had already developed chemical rockets, but we can say that I didn't and have to develop those first.
Since I obviously know nothing about propulsion, what kind of engines would you suggest? IIRC, proton-boron polywell fusors released no neutrons, and so were a clean form of fusion.
And I don't understand your third question at all.

PeZook wrote: The Parliamentary members have come to the following conclusion: The Act's humanitarian merits are without question. While a real danger exists of uncotrolled outflow of students seeking education abroad, a statistical analysis based on opinion polls revealed that should such an outflow occur, the majority of emmigrating students would plan to return from abroad to settle back in their home country.

It was therefore agreed that the Student Immigration Act be passed in its proposed form ; With added incentives for students to return home after completing their education.

We thank the II Republic for their consideration of the possible consequences of the SIA, and applaud their creation of an acceptable solution. The Republic of N'ton would like to send students to the II Republic under this program, and will reciprocate (with our limited capability) by opening our distinguished metallurgical chemistry and metallurgical engineering study programs to our allies under a similar agreement. This is, of course, pending approval from the Ministry of Finance, which is swamped with requests, and is still trying to figure out which color pen to use for the bottom line.

Crossroads Inc. wrote:Here ye, Hwere ye,

It has come to the Lord High CEO's attention that there may be more then one Smaller Nation boasting claims that are far beyond said nations resource ablities. It is Proposed that a council shall be conveinged to take a tally of all nations resources and ablities that have been "claimed" and see if they conflict wiht what said nation is capable of supporting or producing.

Additional, It is now evident that the forum in which we are currently holding all international discussions have surpassed all previous expectation in the range of size and scope that it has reached.

It is herby motined to the rest of the UN of SDnet, that a new 'Thread' be opened that wish we can continue, with a fresh start, our poltical discorse. While at the same time, preserving this immense bastian to "Rarw" for all time.

The Republic of N'ton is probably one of those nations that makes claims far beyond its resources allow, however it still seconds the motion to create a council to tally each nation's capabilities and restrict their claimed output accordingly. We also plead ignorance and the inability to grasp the scale at which a government operates.

EDIT:
Also, due to our proximity to Shroomania, The Republic of N'ton formally requests permission to join the Fungal Axis.

Arch-Duke Vanaheim made a rare televised address today, commiserating the loss of the Syndromian freighter and the recent rioting in Syndromia itself. He pledged both to increase the number of naval auxiliary vessels in order to ensure that not only will the Duchy have the capability to assist further in the matters, but also to make inroads on the problems of Syndromian pirates in the Straits. For the problems on the Syndromian homeland, he made it known that further peacekeepers would be deployed to the nation, to assist in re-training the security forces in the LUN occupied areas.

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The Halifax class frigate VNS Vigilant and a pair of patrol ships have been dispatched to assist in the search for RTS Gdynia. They request further information from the vessels of the II Republic also searching.

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In other news, the VNS Viscount, a third Halifax frigate has been commissioned into the Duchy fleet, the nation's largest shipyard now turning their attention to the plans of Albion-class ships to assist both in peacekeeping operations and disaster recovery operations.

I thought it was implied that I had already developed chemical rockets, but we can say that I didn't and have to develop those first.
Since I obviously know nothing about propulsion, what kind of engines would you suggest? IIRC, proton-boron polywell fusors released no neutrons, and so were a clean form of fusion.
And I don't understand your third question at all.

You can't just tick out chemical rockets. They require infrastructure and research on their own, as well as design. They are expensive as hell to make too, plus not terribly effective.

Personally, I'd recommend you join up with the Alliance of AS&NR, you can get your hands on the current Sabre project. With that, you can make your own space-plane and assemble the hypothetical NSWR in orbit. There is also the "bridge-to-space" thing the Reds are working on.

But personally, I say ditch the NSWR altogether. It's way too expensive (its fuel alone), technically overly difficult and quite shaky, not to mention the environmental concerns.

Instead, for space travel I recommend you research various electric engines. Nyrath has a nice list of various kinds on his site (google "Atomic Rocket").
NSWR provides both high thrust and ISP, but for interplanetary travel, you are better off with just high ISP as thrust won't matter much, and have a separate engine for braking and docking. More economic too.

Third question means where and how will you test the prototype and make tests regarding it.

The last developments have shown the following world map (show image >> shift+reload if you see the older version) where Blastification and Qudlivun Free State have been added:

Zixinus wrote:There is also the "bridge-to-space" thing the Reds are working on.

That will take lots of time to construct; whilst our own orbital plane the SPIRAL should be completed a little faster.

Mr Bean wrote:Where are you on the world map anyway?

The Techocracy also informs it's fellow OMSK Pact member U.K.B. that Shady Empire is located in the sea between Shinra, Pezookia, Lincolnian Union and Shroomania.

((OOC: Seems to be getting a little cramped in the middle. Is it possible to spread things out a bit, crack open a mid atlantic ridge or something?))

In a short Statement released by the Lord High CEO of Crossroadia, the following curious quote was overheard.

"Ive got a yard ta dig up before the Landscaping crew arrives, so I'll get to re-writting all your Nation entries whens I got the chance"

Mystified by these words, the Ireless Data Collectors of Crossroadia all went out for Pizza.

Seems to be getting a little cramped in the middle. Is it possible to spread things out a bit, crack open a mid atlantic ridge or something?

[OOC] Well, I concentrated the smaller nations so that they can at least pursue the meaningful alliances they made (Pezookia, Vanaheim, etc.) - if they would be far away the LUN would probably fall apart for the difficulty of joint naval actions and the lack of a major nation in it to act like the US does in NATO.

The map is kinda common-sense based.

However, newcomer small nations will not be placed into this middle ocean anymore (i've had similar considerations to yours when I was putting out the last version). [/OOC]

Mapping: http://www.profantasy.com/library/demo.asp
The demo is worth for 14 days, more than enough to make your own map Smile

The fucking thing won't work. I install it and it gives me a memory error.

The second one gives a dead URL.

Shroomania cordially accepts the Republic of N'ton into the FUNGAL AXIS - may the mutual sharing of trade, resources, culture, and protection be beneficial to all of our nations!


BREAKING NEWS

The Mushroom Military increases its troop presence in the northern island of Syndromia, bringing the total number of Shroomanian soldiers to 4,000.



A mechanized unit of Shroomanian peacekeepers patrols the shores of Northern Syndromia at low tide.

[OOC: Stas, I think you can decrease the size of the Shinra republic a bit - I think it's overlarge. I think Zoria can be halved too.]

[OOC] One more tip for mapmaking - you can just pick a real world territory, re-arrange it as you see fit and good to go.

In fact, many great nations are built that way: Saddamistan is New Guinea, Technocracy is the USSR (upside down), Syndromia is Greece (upside down), Qudlivun is Bahrain.[/OOC]