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Re: The Salvation War: Pantheocide. Part Seventy Up

Posted: 2010-06-02 04:33pm
by PaperJack
El Moose Monstero wrote:Grim stuff. It's good to see the subject treated with the gravity it deserves. Is the cobalt blue lake the groundwater collecting in the crater? Or is it something else?
I think it's water so heavily irradiated it emits Cherenkov radiation

Re: The Salvation War: Pantheocide. Part Seventy Up

Posted: 2010-06-02 04:49pm
by Darth Yan
excellent chapter. Incidentally, I flipped through cancerman AND HE CLAIMS TO BE A FORMER MARINE. He also says your description of dialogue is inaccurate, and that you simplify rape.

Re: The Salvation War: Pantheocide. Part Seventy Up

Posted: 2010-06-02 05:11pm
by Stuart
Darth Yan wrote: Incidentally, I flipped through cancerman AND HE CLAIMS TO BE A FORMER MARINE. He also says your description of dialogue is inaccurate, and that you simplify rape.
Just pity the guy and leave him alone. He's really not worth the effort of doing anything more than that.

Re: The Salvation War: Pantheocide. Part Seventy Up

Posted: 2010-06-02 05:15pm
by Pelranius
Wow. I think I'll probably skip over TBO (the novel, not the entire universe). That really is nightmare fuel.

Somehow Ya ya didn't seem to be terribly attached to Jesus. I wouldn't find it surprising if he placed more importance on his pets than his family or let alone servants.

I thought the part about Stevenson's gunner throwing up because he thought she was to be a lighter touch. Was it meant to be that way.

Re: The Salvation War: Pantheocide. Part Seventy Up

Posted: 2010-06-02 05:19pm
by CaptainChewbacca
Darth Yan wrote:excellent chapter. Incidentally, I flipped through cancerman AND HE CLAIMS TO BE A FORMER MARINE. He also says your description of dialogue is inaccurate, and that you simplify rape.
Isn't that better than going into graphic detail about rape?

Edit: Also, that blog is dead. He hasn't reviewed anything in about 5 months. I encourage SDNetizens to avoid stirring up shit over there.

Re: The Salvation War: Pantheocide. Part Seventy Up

Posted: 2010-06-02 05:22pm
by spartasman
Did you HAVE to kill Jesus, he was probably the best angel in Heaven. I have to wonder how the Pope and the Vatican are going to handle that though.

Re: The Salvation War: Pantheocide. Part Seventy Up

Posted: 2010-06-02 05:43pm
by Night_stalker
Hey, the Vatican excommunicated God as a imposter, they probably did the same to Jesus.

Re: The Salvation War: Pantheocide. Part Seventy Up

Posted: 2010-06-02 05:56pm
by phongn
Pelranius wrote:I thought the part about Stevenson's gunner throwing up because he thought she was to be a lighter touch. Was it meant to be that way.
I thought her gunner thought that she was going to puke into her bandanna.

Re: The Salvation War: Pantheocide. Part Seventy Up

Posted: 2010-06-02 06:05pm
by Pelranius
phongn wrote:
Pelranius wrote:I thought the part about Stevenson's gunner throwing up because he thought she was to be a lighter touch. Was it meant to be that way.
I thought her gunner thought that she was going to puke into her bandanna.
So he thought it would be okay to do it since his boss did it. I'm still surprised by how widely spread that logic is. :P
It just seemed a bit humorous to me. Here they are, right next to a thermonuclear initiation and her gunner is behaving like some character out of the office.

Re: The Salvation War: Pantheocide. Part Seventy Up

Posted: 2010-06-02 06:23pm
by Darmalus
Makes me want to take a look at TBO, a very grim and respectful look at nuclear warfare. Wasn't there some problem with the first printing? Any idea when a fixed version will be available?

Re: The Salvation War: Pantheocide. Part Seventy Up

Posted: 2010-06-02 06:27pm
by von Neufeld
What I really like is that Stuart manages to capture the horrors by not over-doing it. A lot of authors forgot about the Stalin quote, and over-does the death and mass destruction, which makes the readers emotionally detach from the story and see all characters as redshirts.

Re: The Salvation War: Pantheocide. Part Seventy Up

Posted: 2010-06-02 06:32pm
by CaptainChewbacca
Darmalus wrote:Makes me want to take a look at TBO, a very grim and respectful look at nuclear warfare. Wasn't there some problem with the first printing? Any idea when a fixed version will be available?
Apparently the first printing had the un-edited edition go through instead of the one with all the corrections. Stuart is working on the revised copy now.

Re: The Salvation War: Pantheocide. Part Seventy Up

Posted: 2010-06-02 06:36pm
by Night_stalker
So when should I begin camping outside Barnes and Noble for it?

Re: The Salvation War: Pantheocide. Part Sixty Nine Up

Posted: 2010-06-02 07:06pm
by TimothyC
Stuart wrote:The Targeteer smiled sadly. "Brennan, Don Brennan...."
I've read some about him when I was doing my paper on ABM. He seemed like a genuinely interesting man, who just didn't see himself as being useful anymore. A while back you said that you were only going to introduce two historical characters in Pantheocide, I presume this is the second?

Also I wonder if Herman Kahn and company will be starting up a Styx River Institute? :twisted:
Night_stalker wrote:So when should I begin camping outside Barnes and Noble for it?
Stuart publishes with Lulu and thus the books can be bought over Amazon.

Re: The Salvation War: Pantheocide. Part Seventy Up

Posted: 2010-06-02 07:30pm
by Seggybop
Does anyone have any photos of fields of glass that were created by past nuclear tests? Up to now, I've not been able to find any.

Re: The Salvation War: Pantheocide. Part Seventy Up

Posted: 2010-06-02 07:36pm
by CaptainChewbacca
Seggybop wrote:Does anyone have any photos of fields of glass that were created by past nuclear tests? Up to now, I've not been able to find any.
Image

Trinitite, in all its' glory.

Re: The Salvation War: Pantheocide. Part Seventy Up

Posted: 2010-06-02 07:45pm
by Seggybop
Yeah, it's pretty easy to find pics of little chunks like that, and I've actually seen a few in person (a physics instructor I had a while ago snatched a few from the ground at the Trinity site). However, it seems almost impossible to find a picture of an actual unbroken field of glass. Perhaps I'm doing a terrible job searching, but the best I've found are some low-res black and white photos where the area simply looks like it's got a giant scorch mark on it.

Re: The Salvation War: Pantheocide. Part Seventy Up

Posted: 2010-06-02 07:48pm
by CaptainChewbacca
Seggybop wrote:Yeah, it's pretty easy to find pics of little chunks like that, and I've actually seen a few in person (a physics instructor I had a while ago snatched a few from the ground at the Trinity site). However, it seems almost impossible to find a picture of an actual unbroken field of glass. Perhaps I'm doing a terrible job searching, but the best I've found are some low-res black and white photos where the area simply looks like it's got a giant scorch mark on it.
That's because it was never a smooth, unbroken field of glass. Right from the start it was cracked, fractured, and bashed around from all the shock.

Re: The Salvation War: Pantheocide. Part Seventy Up

Posted: 2010-06-02 08:05pm
by westrim
CaptainChewbacca wrote:
Seggybop wrote:Yeah, it's pretty easy to find pics of little chunks like that, and I've actually seen a few in person (a physics instructor I had a while ago snatched a few from the ground at the Trinity site). However, it seems almost impossible to find a picture of an actual unbroken field of glass. Perhaps I'm doing a terrible job searching, but the best I've found are some low-res black and white photos where the area simply looks like it's got a giant scorch mark on it.
That's because it was never a smooth, unbroken field of glass. Right from the start it was cracked, fractured, and bashed around from all the shock.
AN, not THE. The ground around Trinity was broken up, but there's probably some test that left a significant amount unbroken. Uxhalar seems to imply that the glass he sees is not broken. Plus, the idea of a vast bowl of glass is just cool, especially if it becomes a war memorial as I hope.

Re: The Salvation War: Pantheocide. Part Seventy Up

Posted: 2010-06-02 08:19pm
by Guardsman Bass
Excellent chapter. I suppose I should pity Ehlmas, but then he dominated and oppressed some poor Judean carpenter for decades. Good riddance. I'm really looking forward to the next chapter.

I pity the Second Life Humans caught in the area where they weren't killed (again) instantly, but will still likely die a very slow death out on that glass plain.

Re: The Salvation War: Pantheocide. Part Seventy Up

Posted: 2010-06-02 09:30pm
by spartasman
Night_stalker wrote:Hey, the Vatican excommunicated God as a imposter, they probably did the same to Jesus.
IIRC, the Vatican had declared that Yahweh was a "false god" but that Jesus was still the savior.

Re: The Salvation War: Pantheocide. Part Seventy Up

Posted: 2010-06-02 09:49pm
by Night_stalker
Oh yeah, but once they learn about Jesus's true nature...

Re: The Salvation War: Pantheocide. Part Seventy Up

Posted: 2010-06-02 11:51pm
by Pelranius
Night_stalker wrote:Oh yeah, but once they learn about Jesus's true nature...
Assuming that anyone is left to talk about it. Yah yah will probably get iced before we can talk to him, and even then he probably won't give us information on the basis of principle while the Archangels and anyone else high enough in the know could possibly end up dead. Or Michael could get the crazily plausible idea of trying to blackmail the various Christian churches with the information (though I can't really think of anything they have that he could want).

Re: The Salvation War: Pantheocide. Part Seventy Up

Posted: 2010-06-03 12:26am
by Edward Yee
Darth Yan wrote:excellent chapter. Incidentally, I flipped through cancerman AND HE CLAIMS TO BE A FORMER MARINE.
Hey, maybe he didn't like TSW not verbally fellating the Corps. :P But yeah, if he's gone dormant, then he's a moot point.

Stuart, I hope that once the revised TBO is published that either it'll supersede the existing instance on Amazon or that they'll have separate entries? (i.e. "2nd/revised printing")

Re: The Salvation War: Pantheocide. Part Seventy Up

Posted: 2010-06-03 12:28am
by Dave
Darmalus wrote:Makes me want to take a look at TBO, a very grim and respectful look at nuclear warfare. Wasn't there some problem with the first printing? Any idea when a fixed version will be available?
Apologies, but what does TBO stand for?