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Lord of the Abyss wrote:First link says the story cannot be found at this address, at least for me.
It's stopped working for me too. Hm.
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Uraniun235 wrote:It's stopped working for me too. Hm.
They're coming for you :P
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MKSheppard wrote:
Uraniun235 wrote:It's stopped working for me too. Hm.
They're coming for you :P
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Heh heh hheh

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Here's a working link.
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Bertie Wooster wrote:America's universities are going to be fucked if foreign students don't want to study and teach here anymore. The number of foreign students in the U.S. was already in decline recently.
Don't you get it? The people pushing this don't care that foreign students will go elsewhere. In fact, they would probably be HAPPY if those damned foreigners went elsewhere. They don't care if American science and technology suffers. They say they care about education, but they don't, really. They care about privilege and power. That's it.
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A popular buzz-word in the run up to a war [?] with Iran is "dual-use technology." That which could be used towards either a peaceful or weaponized nuclear program.

I for one, am adamantly opposed to anything resembling dual-use legislation that on the one hand targets terrorists in spirit, but enables the heretofore illegal imprisonment of Americans or legal residents.
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[quote="Matt Huang"]While alarming, I don't see how this is really unexpected. Enlistment in a foreign army can be used as grounds to strip somebodys citizenship, it was pretty much a matter of time before Bush & co extended it to include "enemy combatants"./quote]

I suppose enlistment by American citizens in, say, the Israeli Army are exempt?

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Saw a lot of those people on the news over the summer, during Israel's little war.
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So are Nit , or the wives of either enigma or superman still happy about living in the usa?
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The Yosemite Bear wrote:So are Nit , or the wives of either enigma or superman still happy about living in the usa?
I think I speak for all three of us when I'm outraged that the living hell of INS we went through is an insult when we aren't protected.
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Well this is quite disheartening. I'm not ready to "jump ship" yet, although I will be paying in cash far more frequently... Lest I be labeled an enemy of the state.
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SirNitram wrote:
The Yosemite Bear wrote:So are Nit , or the wives of either enigma or superman still happy about living in the usa?
I think I speak for all three of us when I'm outraged that the living hell of INS we went through is an insult when we aren't protected.
My husband, who just recevied his green card a little over a year ago after a long, expensive process, agrees completely.
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well my neighbor Neijean (Serbian Muslim formerly a nuclear engineer) says he's not worried at all, since he's still getting his checks not to go near the mideast, or to work in his former profession.
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Wait, so what about Article one Section nine? Of that thing, the ummmm, oh yeah! US Constitution.
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The Yosemite Bear wrote:well my neighbor Neijean (Serbian Muslim formerly a nuclear engineer) says he's not worried at all, since he's still getting his checks not to go near the mideast, or to work in his former profession.
He'd better hope that nobody decides it's cheaper to toss him in some hole in a dungeon for the next 50 years.
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SirNitram wrote:
The Yosemite Bear wrote:So are Nit , or the wives of either enigma or superman still happy about living in the usa?
I think I speak for all three of us when I'm outraged that the living hell of INS we went through is an insult when we aren't protected.
And I'm wondering how hard it will be to move to England.
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LadyTevar wrote:
SirNitram wrote:
The Yosemite Bear wrote:So are Nit , or the wives of either enigma or superman still happy about living in the usa?
I think I speak for all three of us when I'm outraged that the living hell of INS we went through is an insult when we aren't protected.
And I'm wondering how hard it will be to move to England.
If you're thinking about the paperwork, probably less hassle than getting legal resident status in the Statesf or a non-US citizen.

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Edi wrote:
LadyTevar wrote:
SirNitram wrote: I think I speak for all three of us when I'm outraged that the living hell of INS we went through is an insult when we aren't protected.
And I'm wondering how hard it will be to move to England.
If you're thinking about the paperwork, probably less hassle than getting legal resident status in the Statesf or a non-US citizen.

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Edi wrote:
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SirNitram wrote: I think I speak for all three of us when I'm outraged that the living hell of INS we went through is an insult when we aren't protected.
And I'm wondering how hard it will be to move to England.
If you're thinking about the paperwork, probably less hassle than getting legal resident status in the Statesf or a non-US citizen.

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I'm thinking more about finding a job over there, one that would actually be worth the price of moving.
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When can we expect SCOTUS to deny this law? Or a question would be, would they?
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How many Americans are aware of the ramifications of this bill? Are there even a significant amount of Americans that are aware of its existence?
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Pint0 Xtreme wrote:How many Americans are aware of the ramifications of this bill? Are there even a significant amount of Americans that are aware of its existence?
I went most of today telling people this and got mostly "yeah so what."

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Wanderer wrote:I went most of today telling people this and got mostly "yeah so what."
lol, seriously? Irony strikes if these are the first to be jailed. :P
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You know, for a while there I was considering seeing if I could find work in the US. I'd love to spend a year or two in New York. This is starting to seem like a really bad idea.
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Lord of the Abyss wrote:
The Yosemite Bear wrote:well my neighbor Neijean (Serbian Muslim formerly a nuclear engineer) says he's not worried at all, since he's still getting his checks not to go near the mideast, or to work in his former profession.
He'd better hope that nobody decides it's cheaper to toss him in some hole in a dungeon for the next 50 years.
Note that I had typed up the following post yesterday but in the end didn't post it since it is offtopic, but since "Neijean"'s fate has prompted a followup post here it goes:

Neijean = misspeled Mlađan maybe? Asking since Neijean is not an slavic name or an slavicized muslim name (which are used in Bosnia). Not to criticise long distance, but I think he's pulling your leg. First off, Serbian Muslims are maybe 1% of the general Serb population (Serb, Bosniaks and Croats were historicly delineated by religion more then anything else - while today it is no longer impossible to have an Serbian Muslim it is unlikely in the extreme). On the other hand, I would think anyone that someone would be willing to pay such a stipend would have to have practical expirience with nuclear reactors. The only way to get such expirience in ex-Yu (and I'm assuming that is where he says he got the exp. from since it is his former proffesion) would be at the Krško nuclear plant - note the singular location.

While possible, the combination of a very low possible cultural background (Serbian Muslim) with a very low possible in ex-Yu proffesion (nuclear engineer) sounds very fishy.
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