Opinionated Voyager Episode Guide - Phage

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dragon wrote:Ok here's something if they couldn't replicate his lungs why didn't they generate a few sets of organs and give them organs to the people suffereing from their phage. Hell just give them replicators and they could repliacte enough for there own needs.
Wait... you though they would be using logic to make their decisions?
I know shocking ain't it using logic in their thinking process. :shock:
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There may simply be limits to what a replicator can replicate. While similar to transporters it probably has some differences, and there may be very real limitations on the complexity of what it can replicate. A functional lung is raher different from a gun or a piece of fried chicken or something like that, something that doesnt have to have specific genetic and blood matches and basically fit in a very precise organic niche. Try replicating lungs or a heart or whatever and you get a lump of useles flesh without the right genetic code or blood type that would be rejecte dby the body. Also to create anything you need the materials, so wouldnt they need some pounds of meat with the same blood type and DNA as Nelix? Where would they get that? Iirc replicators need roughly equal material tow hat they make, so a car still requires so many tons of metal and stuff to be stored in the machine, a piece of chick requires that the raw materials be in the unit, etc etc, it may not be just a 'push button' problem.
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If I rember right in a different episode they create organs using replicators. Hell with we can almost grow organs with current day technology.
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?articl ... =5&catID=2

Plus Janeway ask about artifical lungs and if the doctor said wasn't possible to replicate lungs for Neelix. So that would indicate they can they can replicate some organs. Also didn't they replicate a spine for Worf.
JANEWAY: Can’t we fit him with a pair of artificial lungs?
EMH: His respiratory system is directly linked to multiple points along his spinal column. It’s too complex to replicate. I may be able to surgically reattach the organs if we get them back. In the meantime I’ll have to search for other options.
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I assumed she asked cause...she wanted to know all the options? But the doc said it wasnt possible, and he didnt, that i know of, specify Nelix so the technology just may not be up to the task. I only recall a handful of Voyager episodes so it's entirely possible i missed something like making extra organs. I wouldnt be surprised if the writers did just screw up and forget that previous episode, but then there is the other possibility the replicator's tech cant handle it.

Cloning might be more effective there than outright replication, as we know there are obvious, real limits to what replicators can do as was seen in other episodes, for example IIRC requiring raw materials of a similar nature (and inthis case, i'd assume blodo type too) to make the duplication process work. I may be missunderstanding the tech, but if i were to draw a comparison it's like that anime Fullmetal Alchemist, you need 'something' to make 'something' you cant pull something out of nothing.

I dont recall how they fixed the problem, actually. Last i remember is they put him in a headlock thingy and gave him holo-lungs. BUt that was a temporary solution, i dont recall the ending.
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Hum I wonder if it would be possible to clone a general matrix of the tissue needed and use that as replicator stock and just have the replicator rearrange it.

Ok just thought of something rember when Picard and three others got reveresed in age and their orginal bodies were gone. They used the replicator patterns to give them their old bodies back.

Also did a little looking couldn't find the exact episode where they fixed worf spine. But I think they replicated a new spine.
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