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Posted: 2006-02-05 07:09am
by Batman
Jedi Guardian wrote:Because I don't think it is! There is a difference between ruling it out and saying that the color is not the answer! :wanker:
Um-who said the color of the crystals ever figures into it? The overwhelming majority of evidence says that yes the crystals ARE what somehow determines blade color. I fail to find the post that says 'crystal color=blade color'.

Posted: 2006-02-05 01:40pm
by Master of Ossus
Jedi Guardian wrote:Because I don't think it is! There is a difference between ruling it out and saying that the color is not the answer! :wanker:
What evidence would be required to convince you, then? Statements made in novels, comics, etc. all point to the crystal, and you can experiment and see for yourself in KotOR. What evidence would you require?

Posted: 2006-02-06 10:54am
by Surlethe
Jedi Guardian wrote:Because I don't think it is! There is a difference between ruling it out and saying that the color is not the answer! :wanker:
For fuck's sake, "I don't think it is!" isn't a fucking argument.

Posted: 2006-02-06 12:32pm
by Ghost Rider
Jedi Guardian wrote:Because I don't think it is! There is a difference between ruling it out and saying that the color is not the answer! :wanker:
One chance, before this gets locked.

Prove your side. Crystals have been demonstrated time and again, and they have give you proof. If you cannot meet this, this gets locked, end of story. Blithering means diddly and shit on this board.

Posted: 2006-02-06 01:34pm
by Ender
Actually, I can think of one thing that points to it not being the crystal.

The ROTS ICS describes lightsabre blades as standing blaster bolts. We know from blaster stuff that bolt color is pretty arbitrary and can even be configured to not have a bolt visable. And AFAIK there is no reference to crystals beig used in blasters or TLs. Which would suggest a retcon.

Re: the post-production guys make it, duh!!! =)

Posted: 2006-02-06 04:02pm
by felineki
Kurgan wrote:After watching the sequel to "Pink Five" and "The Sith Apprentice" I'm convinced that there's just a color adjust knob on the side. A few good taps on the side of the handle should produce the same effect. ;)
What would be really awesome would be if you could set the color adjust to an automatic loop through the spectrum... get a nice Seizure-Inducing Rainbow Strobe Saber. Sweet.

Posted: 2006-02-06 05:19pm
by Jedi Guardian
Well I at least know one thing. The reason for the smaller variety of colors for lightsaber blades is revealed throughout several forms of media; the Empire destroyed the caves that housed the lightsaber crystals which Jedi used to focus energy and create their blade's unique color. Synthetic crystals were created to replace the natural crystals found in caverns, typically having either a blue or green color. It should be added though that during the Old Republic era, Jedi kept strict traditions that kept most padawans from creating their lightsaber crystals "synthetically" (Either within a furnace, taking a gem and restructuring it via the Force, or a combination of both).

What interests me is one lightsaber in particular, created by the Jedi student Gantoris, was violet with patterns of rainbow light rippling across its white core.
I'm pretty sure that the color of a lightsaber's blade depends on the crystals used to focus it. Blue-bladed lightsabers are loosely associated with Jedi Guardians; green-bladed lightsabers are loosely associated with Jedi Consulars; yellow-bladed lightsabers are loosely associated with Jedi Sentinels; and red-bladed lightsabers are more closely associated with the Sith and dark Jedi. Note however, that the color of the lightsaber does NOT indicate in absolute the nature of the Jedi. Mace Windu's purple-colored lightsaber in the movie is rumored so that viewers can distinguish Samuel L. Jackson's character in the battle scenes in Attack of the Clones. However, it is known that Samuel Jackson simply chose his lightsaber color himself for he was the first to pick a lightsaber at the start of production on the prequel trilogy. Each Jedi (or Sith) is free to choose whatever hue for their blade they wish or can acquire. Usually the lightsaber crystal will call out to its chosen master during the trials to become a Jedi when the padawan travels to llum or Adega. This in part is why some sources claim that Jedi traditionally use Adegan crystals.

Prior to the Battle of Ruusan, Jedi used lightsabers in a vast array of colors. Afterwards, Jedi relied on more common Ilum crystals such as blue and green. During his Knight Trials, Mace Windu braved the rock-encrusted world of Hurikane on the orders of his own Jedi Master to obtain his lightsaber crystal. He encountered the planet's natives and, in a moment of panic, accidently threw them over a cliff. Realizing his mistake, the young Padawan saved the natives. It was from this mission that Mace Windu was given the rare crystals as a gift. In the New Jedi Order Era, Jedi had a wide array of colors such as orange, yellow, green, blue, purple, and light blue. So it is color of crystals. Sorry this is so long.

Posted: 2006-02-06 05:29pm
by Doctor Doom
Did you seriously just writes three paragraphs using the evidence people have used against you earlier in this thread just to backtrack against your earlier position?

Posted: 2006-02-06 07:15pm
by Cykeisme
He didn't write three paragraphs. That's obviously a cropy-praste from some source. He simply didn't add quote tags or even quotation marks around the text, nor did he bother to credit the source. The only part he wrote was "So it is color of crystals. Sorry this is so long."


I believe Jedi Guardian has stated that he is thirteen years of age. I humbly suggest that he be banned for two years, after which he will be over 15, and therefore be able to join our huge science party.
Jk! :P

Posted: 2006-02-07 01:32am
by Manus Celer Dei
He's copied and pasted it from the Wikipedia entry on lightsabers.

Posted: 2006-02-07 10:43am
by Darth Wong
Clarification: he copied and pasted it from the Wikipedia entry on lightsabres and tried to pass it off as his own composition, which makes him a fucking liar and also puts him in violation of the rules.

Posted: 2006-02-07 02:15pm
by Master of Ossus
Jedi Guardian wrote:[snip bullshit.
This is so obviously copy-pasted as to be insulting.

Oh, wait, what's this?
Wikipedia: Lightsabers wrote:The color of a lightsaber's blade depends on the crystals used to focus it. Blue-bladed lightsabers are loosely associated with Jedi Guardians; green-bladed lightsabers are loosely associated with Jedi Consulars; yellow-bladed lightsabers are loosely associated with Jedi Sentinels; and red-bladed lightsabers are more closely associated with the Sith and dark Jedi. Note however, that the color of the lightsaber does NOT indicate in absolute the nature of the Jedi. Mace Windu's purple-colored lightsaber in the movie is rumored so that viewers can distinguish Samuel L. Jackson's character in the battle scenes in Attack of the Clones. However, it is known that Samuel Jackson simply chose his lightsaber color himself for he was the first to pick a lightsaber at the start of production on the prequel trilogy. Each Jedi (or Sith) is free to choose whatever hue for their blade they wish or can acquire. Usually the lightsaber crystal will call out to its chosen master during the trials to become a Jedi when the padawan travels to llum or Adega. This in part is why some sources claim that Jedi traditionally use Adegan crystals.

Prior to the Battle of Ruusan, Jedi used lightsabers in a vast array of colors. Afterwards, Jedi relied on more common Ilum crystals such as blue and green. During his Knight Trials, Mace Windu braved the rock-encrusted world of Hurikane on the orders of his own Jedi Master to obtain his lightsaber crystal. He encountered the planet's natives and, in a moment of panic, accidently threw them over a cliff. Realizing his mistake, the young Padawan saved the natives. It was from this mission that Mace Windu was given the rare crystals as a gift. In the New Jedi Order Era, Jedi had a wide array of colors such as orange, yellow, green, blue, purple, and light blue.
Why, it's your exact spiel. I'm amazed you were able to get that into Wikipedia that quickly after you wrote your brilliant masterpiece utterly disagreeing with your original position in this thread.

Oh, wait, you're just a no-good plagiarist.

You fucker.

Posted: 2006-02-07 05:20pm
by Jedi Guardian
Ok yes I did get it off Wikipidia i'm sorry and should not have tried to pull that over all your heads, your right i'm wrong. But i'm begging you, don't banne me! I'll be less annoying I wont even post if you want me to. I'm going to even memorize the rules if you don't banne me. Now Ghost Rider if your out there please feel free to lock 'er up. Once again sorry and please don't banne me. :cry:

Posted: 2006-02-07 05:52pm
by General Zod
Master of Ossus wrote:
Jedi Guardian wrote:[snip bullshit.
This is so obviously copy-pasted as to be insulting.

Oh, wait, what's this?
Wikipedia: Lightsabers wrote:The color of a lightsaber's blade depends on the crystals used to focus it. Blue-bladed lightsabers are loosely associated with Jedi Guardians; green-bladed lightsabers are loosely associated with Jedi Consulars; yellow-bladed lightsabers are loosely associated with Jedi Sentinels; and red-bladed lightsabers are more closely associated with the Sith and dark Jedi. Note however, that the color of the lightsaber does NOT indicate in absolute the nature of the Jedi. Mace Windu's purple-colored lightsaber in the movie is rumored so that viewers can distinguish Samuel L. Jackson's character in the battle scenes in Attack of the Clones. However, it is known that Samuel Jackson simply chose his lightsaber color himself for he was the first to pick a lightsaber at the start of production on the prequel trilogy. Each Jedi (or Sith) is free to choose whatever hue for their blade they wish or can acquire. Usually the lightsaber crystal will call out to its chosen master during the trials to become a Jedi when the padawan travels to llum or Adega. This in part is why some sources claim that Jedi traditionally use Adegan crystals.

Prior to the Battle of Ruusan, Jedi used lightsabers in a vast array of colors. Afterwards, Jedi relied on more common Ilum crystals such as blue and green. During his Knight Trials, Mace Windu braved the rock-encrusted world of Hurikane on the orders of his own Jedi Master to obtain his lightsaber crystal. He encountered the planet's natives and, in a moment of panic, accidently threw them over a cliff. Realizing his mistake, the young Padawan saved the natives. It was from this mission that Mace Windu was given the rare crystals as a gift. In the New Jedi Order Era, Jedi had a wide array of colors such as orange, yellow, green, blue, purple, and light blue.
Why, it's your exact spiel. I'm amazed you were able to get that into Wikipedia that quickly after you wrote your brilliant masterpiece utterly disagreeing with your original position in this thread.

Oh, wait, you're just a no-good plagiarist.

You fucker.
Didn't the last plagiarist get a rather fast banhammer dropped down on him? Lord Jax, I believe it was.

Posted: 2006-02-07 05:57pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
Maybe we should lighten up a little on the kid. Christ, he's completely terrified now...

Posted: 2006-02-07 06:05pm
by Jedi Guardian
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Maybe we should lighten up a little on the kid. Christ, he's completely terrified now...
Thank you so much I can't even type right. This is one of the only sites that my computer will let me go to! You know what? Hey any one out there with power to lock go on and do it!

Posted: 2006-02-07 09:50pm
by Darth Servo
General Zod wrote:Didn't the last plagiarist get a rather fast banhammer dropped down on him? Lord Jax, I believe it was.
IIRC, Jax was banned after the third instance of plagarism.

Posted: 2006-02-07 09:52pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
Darth Servo wrote:
General Zod wrote:Didn't the last plagiarist get a rather fast banhammer dropped down on him? Lord Jax, I believe it was.
IIRC, Jax was banned after the third instance of plagarism.
That and also being completely defiant about it each time.

Posted: 2006-02-07 10:01pm
by Master of Ossus
Alright, shows over, folks. Nothing to see here.