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Posted: 2005-10-04 12:50am
by Xess
Master of Ossus wrote:Dark Moose is, bar none, the worst moderator I have ever met on any message board ever. That being said, you have to remember that the official boards have different goals than ours (which is purely to engage in intellectual discussion). They have to maintain a sense of community, and part of that means stifling debates so as to promote the idea that everyone gets along really really well.
I hate boards that force community down your throat and make everything look all happy go lucky. Which reminds me, God I love SDN.
BTW, is Karen Traviss giving Dark Moose sexual favors, or something? I simply cannot believe how far he's been going out of his way to defend her.
I think he's on some kind of crusade to protect the "VIPs". From what I can tell it's like he considers her, as an EU author, a god and so he needs to kiss ass to please her.

Posted: 2005-10-04 12:59am
by Ender
begs the question of if Dr S would qualify as a VIP over there, and how would DM treat him.

Posted: 2005-10-04 01:28am
by Xess
Ender wrote:begs the question of if Dr S would qualify as a VIP over there, and how would DM treat him.
I think he would either treat him with respect or more likely in my opinion; pay lip service then go flame the fires by posting a bunch of anti-Saxton stuff in his blog and by using his mod powers to quench pro-Saxton arguments.

Posted: 2005-10-04 03:23am
by Lord Poe
Here's an example of Moose's impartial modding:
To: Darth Talas
From: The Dark Moose
RE: "Chewie, Get Me A Hydrospanner!" : Sound In Space! Tee-Hee!

Comments: Thanks all, for the comments. Apparently, I'm not allowed to engage in a discussion about the feedback from my own blog, so feel free to email me.

You are allowed to comment on the subject matter - I told you that both of us should take the discussion about you coming close to flaming offline to blog feedback so that you could at least have a blog entry free of off-topic discussion. I could just go with my first instinct and block your entry for being offensive both to fans and VIPS. But I haven't.
Fuck you, deep hard, and with tobasco sauce, motherfucker.

Posted: 2005-10-04 04:22am
by Master of Ossus
Lord Poe wrote:Here's an example of Moose's impartial modding:
To: Darth Talas
From: The Dark Moose
RE: "Chewie, Get Me A Hydrospanner!" : Sound In Space! Tee-Hee!

Comments: Thanks all, for the comments. Apparently, I'm not allowed to engage in a discussion about the feedback from my own blog, so feel free to email me.

You are allowed to comment on the subject matter - I told you that both of us should take the discussion about you coming close to flaming offline to blog feedback so that you could at least have a blog entry free of off-topic discussion. I could just go with my first instinct and block your entry for being offensive both to fans and VIPS. But I haven't.
Fuck you, deep hard, and with tobasco sauce, motherfucker.
Where did you get that?

Posted: 2005-10-04 04:27am
by Lord Poe
Master of Ossus wrote:
Lord Poe wrote:Here's an example of Moose's impartial modding:
Where did you get that?
Each blog quote is e-mailed to me. Even the deleted ones.

Posted: 2005-10-04 05:29am
by Mange
I referred to that blog comment on the previous page. A while later it had disappeared from the comments page.

Posted: 2005-10-04 11:09am
by Anguirus
Why on earth was Dark Moose so offended by that entry? What a pompous ass.

I want to burst into tears when the idiotic are patronizing to the people that have actually thought something through. You can't even ignore it, you have to post about how proud you are of your dumbness and how inconsiderate Poe is for DARING TO BE LOGICAL.

Posted: 2005-10-04 06:37pm
by The Original Nex
Well, well Wayne, looks like the Admin. has taken an intrest in your work: http://blogs.starwars.com/hydrospanner/3/comments :?

Posted: 2005-10-05 12:08am
by Wyrm
/me beats shoe on table.

Shame! Shame!

I discovered this phenomenon when I collected Star Trek novella, so I can definitely say that this is not restricted to SW EU. Intellectual laziness. That's the name for your shame.

I wonder, has anyone noticed an increased frequency of technobabble in EU books? Or just plain wierd science? (Probably a symptom of the same problem.)

Posted: 2005-10-05 01:02am
by Master of Ossus
The Original Nex wrote:Well, well Wayne, looks like the Admin. has taken an intrest in your work: http://blogs.starwars.com/hydrospanner/3/comments :?
I love the way that posts go missing there when the mods/admins say things that aren't favorable to them. I've made some mistakes in my debates and discussions, here, but even editing them afterwards is wrong. To physically DELETE posts, such as the one in which Dark Moose claimed it would be okay for an EU author to claim that Darth Vader could eat Coruscant, is so far beyond the bounds of professionalism that it's disgusting.

Why did they delete it? Well, it could've been because they didn't want Dark Moose to hang himself with his own rope. Observe:
Dark Moose wrote:Balance, in my opinion, is very much the correct word, D525. Good call. One can go too far with these things, and one can ignore them too much. Go too far in either direction, you've lost a little of the experience. Moderation is the key ...no trying to be punny :0)
Which of course fits perfectly with letting Darth Vader eat Coruscant with a knife and fork. One wonders how far one would have to go in terms of ignoring realism for Dark Moose to become concerned.

Posted: 2005-10-05 01:06am
by Xess
Master of Ossus wrote:One wonders how far one would have to go in terms of ignoring realism for Dark Moose to become concerned.
From what I've gleaned from my very short exchange with him on his blog it would be almost impossible for him to be concerned about realism so long as he gets his story jollies and the EU says it's true.

Posted: 2005-10-05 06:56am
by Lord Poe
And now, another ass-sucking sw.com Mod "bonniegirl" decided to go Charles Bronson on me, leaving me quaking in my boots. Since, as Moose pointed out, such off-topic comments shouldn't be on my blog comments, I deleted her ass myself.
To: Darth Talas
From: bonniegrrl
RE: "Chewie, Get Me A Hydrospanner!" : Sound In Space! Tee-Hee!

Comments: And there is an old saying "If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen." Maybe LF should hire people who actually care about the material enough to do this job correctly? After all, the EU isn't too complicated for those webmasters who do this for free.

um careful there kiddo. Those people DO care. And since you none of them or what their job actually involves you might want to pipe down. Seriously. EU is complicated and those webmasters you speak of don't always hit the mark. So hop down off that high horse of yours.
Yeah, you meanie! You're going to hurt a VIP's feelings! Oooh, I hope they see me defending said VIP like a good little suck-up!
To: Darth Talas
From: bonniegrrl
RE: "Chewie, Get Me A Hydrospanner!" : Sound In Space! Tee-Hee!

Comments: I'm getting really tired of reading comments from today's allegedly professional sci-fi writers who think they have a free ticket to be lazy when it comes to writing about Star Wars.

First of all there's no "alleged." Those authors are indeed LFL authors.
No one questioned whether or not they were "Lucasfilm" authors, you rancid twat. What I "alleged" was their professional aptitude.
No one is a VIP on these blogs unless they are officially connected to LFL, ILM, LucasArts and so on. So you can stop guessing on that point.
Wow, I never would have gleaned that without your guidance, you sloppy bitch. There's only an entire section
where VIP blogs are featured!
Second, I doubt these authors believe "they have a free ticket to be lazy when it comes to writing about Star Wars." If you knew anything about the likes of Karen Traviss or Dan Wallace or any of the other authors here, you wouldn't be saying that.
"Yeah! You don't know them like I[/i] know them! You stop beating up on my VIPs pals!

To: Darth Talas
From: bonniegrrl
RE: "Chewie, Get Me A Hydrospanner!" : Sound In Space! Tee-Hee!

Comments: Now I wanted to bring up the real point of me commenting here. You are more than allowed to your opinion. BUT be very careful crossing the line into flamming.


Who did I flame, you stupid cunt? Someone has to be NAMED in order to be flamed. The poor excuses for mods at sw.com like Moose and that other fucking idiot James T Skywalker sure are slow on the smackdown when Saxton is flamed there. But oh! Don't flame the Army dyke, or else!!

Insulting our authors is a good way to get yourself kicked off the blogs. You can disagree with them all you want, but questioning whether or not they're legit and then calling them lazy is pretty rude. So consider this an admin warning.


Consider this my complete dismissal of your oh so impartial Modding there, twat. You people are so pathetic in your VIP brown-nosing.

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Posted: 2005-10-05 07:12am
by VT-16
EU is complicated and those webmasters you speak of don't always hit the mark.
Oh, it's not too complicated once people start spending time on it, rather than lazy about waiting for a paycheck. :roll: