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The problem with FEX-M3 grenades is that after 10-20 metres, the gas has dissipated so much that it takes several minutes to kill, rather than 10 seconds, with imobilization in 3-4. So many grenades would need to be used.

Also, Merr-Sonn Smoke and Luma grenades would be very useful. Think flashbang grenades on steriods+smoke grenades.
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Howedar wrote:Yes, the rate at which people can be beamed up would be an issue.

I don't remember nerve gasses being quite that immediately lethal. Thought it was more like a matter of five minutes or so.
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The Imperials don't seem to be very fond of chemical agents, perhaps because any old fool with a military breathmask can negate them. No, they'd rather go the devious route of biological weapons. Some are more effective than others: the Kryptos Virus took could only be spread through ingestion of tainted water, while the bio-agent that ravaged Prince Xizor's world spread so quickly Vader had to order a turbolaser strike to prevent it, killing 200,000 Faleen. Other examples include the Candorian plauge, which wiped out 10 billion people on Dentaal. On Evir Derricote's plauge storage facility Boran Thul and Nolaa Tarkona were killed in minutes by a released disease.

If the Empire unleashed one of these on a Federation troop deployment, they'd be dead within days at best, but some even minutes. I doubt the Federation has the medical technology on hand to cure anything like that quickly enough to save them.
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Darth Garden Gnome wrote:The Imperials don't seem to be very fond of chemical agents, perhaps because any old fool with a military breathmask can negate them. No, they'd rather go the devious route of biological weapons. Some are more effective than others: the Kryptos Virus took could only be spread through ingestion of tainted water, while the bio-agent that ravaged Prince Xizor's world spread so quickly Vader had to order a turbolaser strike to prevent it, killing 200,000 Faleen. Other examples include the Candorian plauge, which wiped out 10 billion people on Dentaal. On Evir Derricote's plauge storage facility Boran Thul and Nolaa Tarkona were killed in minutes by a released disease.

If the Empire unleashed one of these on a Federation troop deployment, they'd be dead within days at best, but some even minutes. I doubt the Federation has the medical technology on hand to cure anything like that quickly enough to save them.
Are you kidding? Why, the sentient, supercomputer doctor could find a cure before lunch! Afterwards he can take on an entire army of stormtroopers all by himself, then finish it off with a lightsaber dual with Darth Maul. :roll:
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Darth Garden Gnome wrote:The Imperials don't seem to be very fond of chemical agents, perhaps because any old fool with a military breathmask can negate them.
Imperial Spec-Ops units love chem weaps. Grunts don't use them, because they are somewhat costly, and there are countless quadrillions of low level troops. Sure, putting on a mask will save you from most chemical agents, but can you have one completely pulled out of your utility belt, on your face, turned on and working in under two seconds? No? Then you're already dead, with an FEX-M3, and with T-238 you get dizzy after half a minute, and possibly black out.

And that makes fighting a little bit difficult.

Also, you might vomit into the mask, and suffocate. :twisted:
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Really, the only chance of the survival of the Federation troops in that a platoon level man-portable rocket may not have enough Fex-M3 to kill 1000 troops, especially if they're disperced.
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LT.Hit-Man wrote:Respond to an Imperial ground force chemical weapon attack?
Do you think a battalion-sized force of MACO soldiers in space suits would be able to survive long enough to inflict a few casualties on the Imperial ground force?
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Let's not forget stuff like Glop grenades, which spray a type of paste that can immobilize almost anything within its ten-meter radius. Or the Cryoban grenade, which absorbs heat and can cause a debilitating case of frostbite within seconds.
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Ronaldo wrote:
LT.Hit-Man wrote:Respond to an Imperial ground force chemical weapon attack?
Do you think a battalion-sized force of MACO soldiers in space suits would be able to survive long enough to inflict a few casualties on the Imperial ground force?
Given the range differences between phasers and blasters I'd say no because the Imps could just pic most of them off.

Seriously, a ground forces battle is a one sided massacre simply because of the wide range of Imp Ground Combat tech weve seen.
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Ronaldo wrote:
LT.Hit-Man wrote:Respond to an Imperial ground force chemical weapon attack?
Do you think a battalion-sized force of MACO soldiers in space suits would be able to survive long enough to inflict a few casualties on the Imperial ground force?
That depends on the terrain and the size of the Imperial force. If we're talking about 1000 Fed troopers against 50 Imp troopers in a jungle, they'll probably score some casualties.

On the other hand, if the matchup occurs over open ground, the Feddies will all die, probably at the hands of a single stormtrooper with an E-Web at long range, and without inflicting a single casualty in return.
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[quote="Darth Wong
On the other hand, if the matchup occurs over open ground, the Feddies will all die, probably at the hands of a single stormtrooper with an E-Web at long range, and without inflicting a single casualty in return.[/quote]

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Kuja wrote:Let's not forget stuff like Glop grenades, which spray a type of paste that can immobilize almost anything within its ten-meter radius. Or the Cryoban grenade, which absorbs heat and can cause a debilitating case of frostbite within seconds.
Ah, yes, the WW-41. While we're at it, C-22 fragmentation grenades would slaughter Feddies. Think shrapnel through pajamas. :twisted:
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